Ch 15.
Have this dialogue section where ml Asked mc that ml knows that mc would not use his dick after graduation. And asks that had he ever even jerked off. To which mc replies no. Then ml gets gitty that to even jerk off , mc needs ml.
First of all , what the fuck. So appearantly main character does not even jerk off without ml help (is mc without libido, the answer is no he has libido but its the author way of saying he can only be intimate with ml) , Appearantly mc can not even have sex with other while ml can go full on hoe mode with mc substitute.
Second ml gets giddy knowing that mc does now have sex with other people while they were away and on the other hand he fucks around.
Ml even said , he gets to keep his hands clean.....[hands clean in what way , if mc hafd sex with other he would have been dirty is that what u are implying or if mc had sex with other , you would kill those people and since he did not you get to keep ur hands clean. Is that what ml is implying.]
So according to ml [ml can fuck arround but if mc fucks arround ,ml hands wont be clean either he will kill those people or mc woukd be unclean]
The forced infantilization on mc is so creepy.
He is not obsessive , if the the first thing he do is finding substitutes. Thats like the normal , coward behaviour....
Second thing , man calls uke 4 times after that decides to fuck someone else and continue calling mc , and then video calls mc , when he is deep inside the lookalike.
Thats like peak insecurity to me , its like a manchikd saying , "hey, look i am cool and i git options" otherwise no person does that.
Obsession is you wont settle for second , cuz u are obsessive over the first.
Male lead is just a creep.
Add the tag "creepy male lead."
Bro , Bl reader be like : as long as the rape comes from Male lead/ male lead be the rapist , we will eat that shit up and make that stupid story (Jinxx) very famous. (there are so many scenes in that shit that was not consented by main character).
Also all the stories where ml fucks around even after being with mc, ( around ch 55 of Jinxx male leads gets blow job , ch 28 of tales of myeurong and many more). stories like passion where male lead (rapes mc , then continue to cuck main character. why is there no NTR tag on that story)
I have demanded those stories to Be marked as NTR but no one was there to demand it.
because the one who got cheated was bottom.
But the moment : Rapist is someone else , All of a sudden bl readers decides that this is the moment where we decree that rape is bad and we demand NTR tag.
Bro i hate the mc character too, He should not forgive his rapist. But what i hate more is all of your attitute , if a Male lead rapes , fucks around (he is called red flag , black flags. and simps are saying that they are colour blind, of course seme have sad past thats why this shit is justified).
Have an opinion and move on, you can stop reading this story if you dont like it. But coming at the author , forcing author to change their opinion, attacking them. Calling them various things its not okay.
because if this author deserves hate that i am pretty sure author of painter of the night, jinxx, all of those stories with disgusting raping male lead, disgusting cheating male leads deserve more hate than this.
I remember Selena a story , i liked because one of the rare story where main character had grey motives and grey decisions , she was said to be not virgin cuz she had lover. The author was forced to the point that they had to make her a virgin.
In hetro romance , males are the one who can do wrong, but people still simp after that and in.
homo romance , its seme/top who can do all the wrong in the world, but people still make that story famous (example : passion. that series have a rapist male lead and male lead who cucks mc , why does the story not tagged NTR still. where is all the drama , huh.)
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Wait, did the ML here rape? I haven’t caught up.
And to be clear I don’t agree with the NTR tag either. I don’t think they’re in a relationship. Everything is just a mess.
Oh yes, I don't see nothing romantic in victim- abuser dynamic, such relationship is based only on force, and such series should not be called romantic ones, because they have nothing to do with that, these are toxic relationships. And of course there are people who like rapey dynamic, but let's call things as they are, it's not romantic. For me in general rape should not be treated as a cheap plot device for a momentary angst and in a sexual way in romance series, and no matter who the rapist is, something like this should be treated with respect and adressed, because when something is added to the story, you expect it to be important for future narrative and plot!
The stories you brought up were focused on this victim-abuser dynamic since the beginning, those series have totally different target for readers. And yes, I'm not a fan of these series , and I always share my thoughts about those like Jinx, Legs that won't walk, Passion, Codename Anastasia and so on, any series where rape is in a dynamic (no matter how many times it happened), because rape is showed in a sexual way mostly and just brushed off later, even in a matter of this fictional redemption (we know that nothing can justify or excuse rape, purely fictional trop), it's rare to have it correctly addressed (there are few cases, but only few where I can tell that writing was acceptable). I cannot enjoy such series, rape, cheating, mistreating, I cannot see any happy relationship which had such dynamic!
But the whole point is that those series had SA and/or were rapey since the beginning, there was totally different readers target for those. Many of them are also to adress and express rape fetish. Same with series with depicted graphic rape scenes, like Pearl Boy, Flower of the sun, Steel under silk etc, and same with those toxic rapey series focused on porn aspect only, like Dark Fall, No reason, Revange, Still it rains, Bad life, Indomitable champion and so on... there are different readers target for those.
Because people who don't like toxic relationship based on rape and don't see this in a love category or simply don't wnat to read about rape, could simply avoid these series at the beginning without getting attached.
The problem is when author decides to change the tone of the series out of nowhere in the middle of the series, when readers are already invested, attached to characters and the story itself, and then author adds rape and some crazy narrative turns, where this is not how this story was introduced at the beginning, for majority of season 1, there was totally different target for this story, this is why people feel betrayed, because they signed up for non-love triangle, non-NTR story, exactly how it was introduced. It shows purely no respect towards readers, that's the point! Authors treat rape too lightly, because of course it's a fiction, but readers are real, and should not be taken by surprise in the middle of the series without any trigger warnings, that's the whole point, fiction should be a safe space for everyone
Said everything for me, thank you, I was too lazy to comment further because I already made a lengthy post. I’m tired of it. I agree, it’s not because of Omega being raped by a random that the rating is lower, it’s because of the poor writing and MC’s reaction feels lenient/OOC. I always felt like the Secretary was so forced, a trope that isn’t done well and shows poor writing, it shows the lack of a good plot tool. It just felt messy, nasty, and ugh (same thing, but that’s the point, so many words to say and all those words I have to say…shows the same disappointment in the story).
You’re on point with the different audience target. Hence why the ratings aren’t tied to “because readers are hypocrites”, it’s because readers aren’t all the same, it’s not an accurate reading. I read dark stories and I don’t rate it, some read it and rate it high because they enjoy the dark story. Some rate it lower but if it’s meant for the dark fantasy enjoyers…it’ll have more good rating. It doesn’t necessarily mean main Alpha gets away with being a rapist, if he was one. Doesn’t apply here. The Alpha is genuinely okay to Omega, and that’s why a lot of us are annoyed by the Omega’s attitude towards their relationship.
When I first heard about the author’s choice of going down the rape path, I was disappointed, because I didn’t expect that, I thought the Alpha would come rescue in time. I was even more disappointed with the leniency towards the rapist.
When I first saw the Omega, I thought he was strong and he actually stands by his contempt for the alphas (if I remember right). If anything makes sense for him to lower his guard a bit, it would be with Alpha, his childhood friend. Not a Secretary, who works for him and has assaulted him way before this rape. So I was very disappointed with how it went down. And to bandage the rapist…it doesn’t feel like the strong omega I first saw and loved.
Oh ew, Pearl Boy. That was a while ago, it was a fest of rape.
But it wasn’t romanticized or fetishized for sure. Not in that work anyways. The author does dive into it pretty often.
Nah we hate it all. Its usually just fucking weirdos who enjoy reading rape plots like dan and jaekyungs (lol i have no clue why its so fucking popular)
Rape is always bad, but I think you're mixing things up. It's not just who did it, it's also how the story handles it and what kind of expectations it sets up. When a manga starts with rape, readers usually know the tone and expect it to be dealt with properly in the story, like consequences or some kind of resolution. But in a childhood friends-to-lovers story with no red flag warnings from start to finish, people aren't expecting that kind of shift, especially when the rape feels unnecessary and purely for the sake of drama. Double standards do exist, but this is the last manga that deserves your kind of defense.
Secretary gave MC and aphrodisiac and then proceeded to have sex with MC. This is simplified of course
I meant the one in cover, our guy. But glad he didn’t rape then
I just remembered , is not ml semen amd blood poisonous and mc has resistance to it.
Case 1 ml went to pink hair for lessons in sex (theory)
Case 2 ml went to pink hair for lessons in sex (pracrical)
If case 2 happened and pink haired and ml did fuck , would not the pink haired bitch be poisoned by ml gold blood and die..... lol. ╮(￣▽￣)╭
would appreciate it if the death is sooner
Main character never asked that , did u slept with your concubine??? The question he asked was did u spend time with your concubine.
Which ml could interpret in few different way.
Possibile
Spend time : as in work , or getting tutored , lectured in the way of sex.
Then yes that pink haired and him spend time together.
Btw that pink haired bitch looks smug rather than irritated when mc declares he would help ml tonight. Meaning he is actually shipping them or he could just be snake with different agenta
What i gather
In mc back home , ml was clearly inexperienced we can gather by through his action. He said mc is his only beloved , he told no to the idea of concubines.
If in just one night after getting mc back his home country , he had sex with pink haired one. It would be way too hyprocritical.. No just low but way too much. Your words and action would be completely different.
I think the pink bitch was irritated but tried to maintain his composer infront of tei
1, I understand that the question could be interpreted in different ways but regardless of how he spent the night with the concubine he still spent the night with a concubine and lied about it. He probably didn't do anything serious like you said and thought it wasn't important to mention but he regardless still lied about it. He failed to see the anxiety Tei had about it
2, given what the concubine said and that he laughed (pfft) after declaring the "main wife" doesn't need to sleep with Sharaka I doubt he ships the relationship. I could be wrong but you don't yell out a blatant lie like that unless you've been put under some impression you won't get f*cked up, which encouraging the "main wife" through rage baiting doesn't seem like a good reason to avoid punishment
No reasonable mature person would interpret spending the night with a concubine as anything else than sex.
Is it so hard to hold Shuraka accountable to being a better communicator when he is in an elevated position of power and is also bringing his spouse into a brand new culture?
Main character never asked that , did u slept with your concubine??? The question he asked was did u spend time with your concubine.
Which ml could interpret in few different way.
Possibile
Spend time : as in work , or getting tutored , lectured in the way of sex.
Then yes that pink haired and him spend time together.
Btw that pink haired bitch looks smug rather than irritated when mc declares he would help ml tonight. Meaning he is actually shipping them.
What i gather
In mc back home , ml was clearly inexperienced we can gather by through his action. He said mc is his only beloved , he told no to the idea of concubines.
If in just one night after getting mc back his home country , he had sex with pink haired one. It would be way too hyprocritical.. No just low but way too much. Your words and action would be completely different.
Wait i am confused , ch 20 .... mc asked which bastard was it this time . Ml replied with 'there is no one else but you. And is it hard to trust'
Also male lead is a germaphobe and appearantly he is okay with touching things he considered his own.
Also its always mc , who assume and accuse ml of being slut. Ml inner monologue never confirms this or denies this.
I mean it would be be unfair for mc, (the mc never has sex with others cuz he still loves ml). If male lead were to fuck mc substitute all this time.(while being in love with mc).
Since , author estabilished ml is a germaphobe and but has no problem touching things that he considered his own... does that mean every person male lead has ons with he considered them enough with the 'own' factor to pit his dick in. Or that is just a rumour or a facade.
Since in ch20 ml says 'there is no one else but only u'.
Its confusing me.
And i am sick and tired of reading male lead who appearantly loves mc but has no problem fucking 50 different people who looks like mc. And the mc who remains saintly loyal to the said ml.
Pls i beg this story to be different.
He’s only vague about it because he knows it makes Pung-ho jealous, but he gen hasn’t been with anyone else but him
has he tho? i faintly rmb a scene where it showed ml had many exes that all looked like mc, but all the relationships very short lived