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Morii October 25, 2025 2:48 pm

Stop asking for a three some. Not happening, you know how it is. And this would be a bland threesome because I know it would just be another two top x one bottom type of threesome. I’m tired.

The secretary is a perfect bottom in my imagination, he and I got 4 babies, the 4th was unplanned, and we live on an island with coconuts for years.

Okay jokes aside, I hope the Secretary does not touch the MC. I only want the MC and ML together, and I desperately wish to see my imagination come alive. If author makes it happen, I will kiss their feet.

If he is a top, I will cry but I won’t stop reading his story.

    Bb33 October 26, 2025 5:35 am

    I agree especially bc the MC has so much trust for the secretary and doesn’t see him as an alpha. I feel like it would ruin his personality if he tries to force something on the MC.

    Morii October 26, 2025 5:42 am
    I agree especially bc the MC has so much trust for the secretary and doesn’t see him as an alpha. I feel like it would ruin his personality if he tries to force something on the MC. Bb33

    Exactly. MC and ML’s chemistry and dynamic is better than alpha with less power and power omega. I am always the happiest with a dynamic without little to no inequality.

    MC sees the Secretary as someone safe, just a person, not alpha or omega. He seems like he would be a good friend at best. His persona doesn’t seem like he would force it, and I hope not.

Morii October 24, 2025 8:21 pm

O EE A A O E O E A A

Morii October 24, 2025 4:55 am

Okay, I just overthink. Do not overthink!

Kloff abusing Aeroc was not simply for the sake of avenging the loss of Raphiel and the baby. It was the fact his dignity was trampled on, his homophobia (alpha and alpha), his ‘perfect life’ with the ‘perfect omega’ being ruined.

I think that when Kloff mentioned loving Raphiel, that is him trying to gaslight himself into believing he loved Raphiel. He is making himself go insane by being a coward, he doesn’t want to believe that Aeroc died either.

“He looked so much like Raphiel, and it made my heart race…” (Ch 21) — This isn’t a sign that he loved Raphiel, he is just traumatized to lose someone he did somewhat care for the sake of his own perfect life. It’s a parallel to all of his true thoughts where he compares Raphiel to Aeroc.

Kloff and Aeroc are fated mates. They could never be separate from one another. If Kloff had continued the so called perfect life with Raphiel in 1st timeline, he would have probably abused him and hurt him.

Chapter 32 is a big foreshadowing of that life, where he describes an imagination of a life with Raphiel. And how tranquil…but dull it would be. When he stood up, Raphiel flinched as if he expected something bad.

Then Kloff saw Aeroc in the same scared state as Raphiel, and was frightened. It truly shows his level of obsession and love for Aeroc compared with Raphiel.

He was genuinely traumatized to lose a partner with a baby, but he also disgustingly took the opportunity to tie Aeroc down with him. He made it seem like this was avenging Raphiel, when in reality he was fulfilling his lustful and suppressed desires. It’s not that Kloff didn’t care for Raphiel, but he clearly did not care enough.

In chapter 27, Kloff (season 2/2nd timeline) wonders why he feels the need to attack and strangle Aeroc, this definitely confirms that he genuinely cared for Raphiel somewhat and was traumatized. And also his genuine hatred towards Aeroc for living in his heart and making him have desires for Aeroc, an alpha. He hated that!

Also the third time line Kloff states how he never loved Raphiel and was in denial the whole time. I believe, as far as my memory goes. Correct me if wrong!

    skskd October 24, 2025 7:02 am

    UP UPPP, my thought exactly

    ihaveadhd October 24, 2025 7:14 am

    this was such a perfect explanation! you did well

Morii October 24, 2025 4:33 am

I don’t get it. If Kloff never liked Raphiel, why did he say: “He looked so much like Raphiel, and it made my heart race…” (ch 21)

I hate this man with all my heart.

And if he did like Aeroc, then why did he say: “I should’ve told you what you wanted to hear (I love you) even if it was a LIE.”

(Is it because he is still in denial?)

Also I heard that apparently Kloff would’ve never been happy with Raphiel anyways even if the bad stuff didn’t happen. That Kloff would’ve been violent if there was no Aeroc, that he would be violent towards Raphiel. Is this true? Why? How come. If this is just a theory, it makes sense because in chapter 32, Kloff of 2nd timeline just imagines how his life with Raphiel would be tranquil and dull. The moment he stood up in that imagination, Raphiel got scared. Then Aeroc’s face showed up.

Also in chapter 27, Kloff (2nd timeline) wonders why he feels the need to attack and strangle Aeroc. Is this because he genuinely felt sad and angry that he lost Raphiel and the baby (or just the baby)? Was he genuine friends with Raphiel? Is this ever explained.

I can’t understand Kloff. But I do know he has never loved Raphiel romantically. And more confirmation (ch 46) where he just says he chose Raphiel because he wanted to settle.

    Anna October 24, 2025 4:56 am

    I think it has something to do with internalized homophobia along with the rage of lossing the baby

    Morii October 24, 2025 5:26 am
    I think it has something to do with internalized homophobia along with the rage of lossing the baby Anna

    I guess he did genuinely care for Raphiel but not enough. It was more about losing his perfect life with the perfect omega, and as you said his homophobia. In reality all this happened because he chose to be a coward. Not that Aeroc isn’t wrong for the mistake he did but dang Kloff is next level psychotic.

    zabong November 2, 2025 8:28 pm

    i think in that timeline raphiel became a kind of 'safe space' as he thought aeroc looked down on him making him want to humilate aeroc ( hence the rose bush meeting when aeroc suggest alpha x alpha ) whereas raphiel genuinely was kind hearted and an omega this being important because i think hes mixing up aeroc looking / becoming an omega through pregnancys with him looking more like raphiel when actually its the fact that his mind is doing mental gymnastics to with the because he cant face being attracted to aeroc because of the fact that aeroc used to be an alpha- hes attracted to a man who still physically is like an alpha. kloff should have killed aeroc, what happened to raphiel was disgusting but due to 'pull' he feels towards aeroc he masks it by punishing him with pregnancys and abuse because how can he admit he has feelings for the person who had his pregnant husband gang raped ?

    Morii November 2, 2025 8:43 pm
    i think in that timeline raphiel became a kind of 'safe space' as he thought aeroc looked down on him making him want to humilate aeroc ( hence the rose bush meeting when aeroc suggest alpha x alpha ) whereas r... zabong

    Yeah I kinda figured this was the case. He extremely resented him because he lost what could’ve been a “safe and acceptable” family, his partner and baby. But he also resented himself for still loving Aeroc regardless.

    Kloff should have killed Aeroc and those other men (don’t remember if he did) instead of being the same man as the other men were. He used this opportunity to fuck Aeroc like his heart had always desired.

    Alpha x alpha hate is basically homophobia in their world. He resents that. But funny how much faster they got together and fucked in the second tl. It could’ve been like that from the start.

    I was more thinking he thought Raphiel looked like Aeroc because he kept comparing Raphiel to Aeroc but vice versa is not wrong either. He said cruel words and made Aeroc dress in Raphiel’s clothing out of trauma and he probably wanted him to look like Raphiel so that he didn’t feel it’s wrong.

    Yeah the mental gymnastics were insane because he had me confused and pausing.

    zabong November 2, 2025 8:53 pm
    Yeah I kinda figured this was the case. He extremely resented him because he lost what could’ve been a “safe and acceptable” family, his partner and baby. But he also resented himself for still loving Aer... Morii

    i dont think there actually was any alpha x alpha hate since nobles openly lusted over aeorc in the second timeline but i more him projecting his feelings towards aeroc and viewing them as something disgusting and impure hence the violent reation when he sees those two alphas kissing , yeah i think at the end he didnt even know what he wanted as he defo blurred the lines between him liking aeroc = viewing him as raphiel

    Morii November 2, 2025 9:06 pm
    i dont think there actually was any alpha x alpha hate since nobles openly lusted over aeorc in the second timeline but i more him projecting his feelings towards aeroc and viewing them as something disgusting ... zabong

    I mean Kloff did dislike alpha x alpha, so there is that. That’s why he says that an omega and alpha makes a natural or something family, he mentioned something about it being “right”. He forced himself to deny any feelings and any thoughts of having those feelings for Aeroc, I guess thats why he mentioned Raphiel.

Morii October 23, 2025 4:03 pm

1. Does ML “lend” MC in gang rapes? Why? What is the motive? Is it a fantasy of his? Or did he do it to use mc as pawn for his revenge or whatever?

2. Currently at chapter 33 in the manhwa, what is this in the novel?

3. Does MC get raped a lot by other guys or mostly ML?

4. Has the first gang rape happened (not including the gang rape MC suffered before meeting ML) as of ch 33 or soon will? Any detailed spoilers is perfect

5. ML will kill some of the rapists or all of the rapists he lent MC out to? Why? I mean was he angry at them, but it makes no sense considering he let them.

6. Any other detailed spoilers is nice and would be appreciated!!

Morii October 22, 2025 6:35 pm

Oh well ur ass is gonna be torn to pleasure

Morii October 22, 2025 2:42 am

Wait this dude is a bottom? Dang didn’t see that coming. I hope there’s a side couple, mean ass bottom with an equally mean ass top

    Uzuitts October 22, 2025 5:19 am

    But isnt the brother dead?

    Morii October 22, 2025 2:13 pm
    But isnt the brother dead? Uzuitts

    I forgot this took place in past. Bro nooo way…

    I’m hoping he is alive somehow lmaoo, I love toxic bottoms that can be changed by someone else, falling for the first time.

    Uzuitts October 22, 2025 2:47 pm
    I forgot this took place in past. Bro nooo way…I’m hoping he is alive somehow lmaoo, I love toxic bottoms that can be changed by someone else, falling for the first time. Morii

    I get what u mean! Bratty Bottoms r sooo funny but their stories are always good lol

Morii October 21, 2025 8:51 pm

Next story involves the MC, ML, and ML’s brother.
https://boylove.cc/home/book/index/id/31522

The reason for blackmail was actually MC just invading ML’s privacy in his office and then was caught by ML’s brother. ML blackmailed him by saying something like: If you don’t have sex with me, I will tell ML that you were in his office snooping around. I heard this from another commenter below. ALSO REALLY? This is how you know it’s just porn because cmon, MC WOULD RATHER HIDE that he snooped around THAN go against the ML’s brother’s forceful act?? Yeah so don’t think too deeply about this story, it’s just fantasy porn. He should have just been honest to ML and wouldn’t even need to have sex with the brother.

MC believes that the ML is blind and ML does portray himself as that way.

So MC reluctantly agrees to the sex and next panel shows him having sex with the brother. The ML is at a dining table, eating. ML is actually not blind and can see his brother and MC having sex in front of him.

Later MC seems to be feeling guilty and the ML has to go to work or somewhere. The brother is still there and he forces MC to have sex or else. The brother makes a call to someone, I assume ML, and just chatting about something. He gestures at MC to give him a blow job. Then they have sex, while ML is on the phone line.

Later MC is sleeping and the brother comes and forces him to have sex. The ML is sleeping next to him!
The MC has his arms around the brother’s neck, it seems like a cheating and cuck scene if nobody knew the context.

Next panel, MC is feeling very guilty and he desperately wants to have sex with ML to overwrite the forced sex that happened with the brother. So they do have sex and it seems MC is still stimulated from the previous sex with ML’s brother. During the sex with ML, MC remembers the sex with the brother and cums.

Later, MC is probably having his heat or something but he is aroused. He tries to sleep it off, and noticed a figure climbing onto the bed. He thought it was ML and was about to happily accept, but finds out it is the brother dressed like how ML would dress.

He backs off and refuses, but eventually falls into the temptations. He wraps his hands and legs around him. The panel skips to another, focused on a picture of the MC and ML’s wedding. After having sex, the brother tells MC about the car incident and probably something was revealed because ML suddenly appeared behind and smashed his head with a cane, bloody.

There’s a complete different aura and demeanor with the ML. He has a cigarette in mouth and looks cold. MC still believes he is blind and goes up to him, waving his hand in his face.

The ML shows him all the video camera recordings of him with the brother. There’s panels that show him fucking with the brother in many different locations like kitchen, living room while the ML is drinking coffee, acting blind. He smirks while watching.

The ML, present time, pushes MC onto the bed and MC somehow gets horny. The ML plays a video on a screen in front of the bed, of MC riding the brother. And MC looks down in shame probably, and his dick splurted out cum. I can’t tell, I think the ML is thrusting inside MC at the same time? So maybe from that too.

MC was aroused from this whole situation somehow.
Then the ML’s brother wakes up after being unconscious, his head is bloody and looks angry.
ML sits on a chair with MC on his lap, and fingers him.

MC is too much of a horn dog to care. The ML urges his brother to thrust inside MC. And the brother approaches and does that although he is angry. Next panels show them having a threesome, MC is getting dick back and forth. Then they do a double penetration, MC seems to be having the time of his raped life cause what is a victim right?

Finally, the next panel shows the picture of the ML and MC’s wedding again. But this time, the panel is face plant down. I wonder what this means, that the facade is over?

Anyhow the time passes. The panel shows MC walking out of the parenthood clinic, MC got pregnant and is grinning widely at the paparazzi who are there. He got both of the brothers and baby in the end.

I don’t know if it’s just the author’s art style, but the part where he smiled at the end, his eyes seem dull and lacking of life. I wonder if that meant something, or I just read too into it.

    hope world October 22, 2025 4:06 am

    Okay wtf. Couldve been a passable story of damsel in distress being saved by a stranger obsessed prince, but instead turned out to be just another outlet of the author to draw out their fantasies.

    nmixx October 22, 2025 6:43 am

    I was a little interested in the second story.. well damn

    Morii October 22, 2025 2:09 pm
    I was a little interested in the second story.. well damn nmixx

    Omg Nmixx slay

    And yeah I lost hope after seeing it’s just fantasy porn

    Morii October 22, 2025 2:09 pm
    Okay wtf. Couldve been a passable story of damsel in distress being saved by a stranger obsessed prince, but instead turned out to be just another outlet of the author to draw out their fantasies. hope world

    Yeah this would’ve been nice cause the brother is kinda hotter than the ML.

    nmixx October 22, 2025 2:43 pm
    Omg Nmixx slayAnd yeah I lost hope after seeing it’s just fantasy porn Morii

    YESSS STAN NMIXX

Morii October 21, 2025 2:43 pm

Holy finally

Morii October 21, 2025 2:59 am

These are why I gathered from review and novel, I couldn’t find rest of chapter after chapter 80 so I had to use MTL. And yeah Hong Lian was more shittt in the novel:

Reviewer said:

it's just pretend play, ML NEVER slept with him. Red lotus guy likes Song so he is jealous of MC bcos of him. Not bcos of the North King. They will be the secondary couple later.

Hong Lian (ch 73 debut):
Less than 3 days later, the details of Emperor Ye’s secret plan appeared in a letter to Zhenbei Wang.

Zhenbei Wang took one look and then tossed the letter in the brazier. A pair of brightly coloured hands appeared from behind to wrap around him.

“My Lord, it’s late. You’ve been busy the whole day, isn’t it time to rest? Let me help you relax.”
A flirtatious beauty clung to Zhenbei Wang. The voice was clearly that of a man, but the words were more charming than what any woman could say, but not to the point of being disgusting. 

Zhenbei Wang grabbed his hand, and spun around to pin him down on top of the bed.

(Ch 74) “How bizarre that the Lord discarded a beauty like you in this lonely place and became a frequent guest of mine-”

(Ch 75) “I was invited by the Princess Consort to steal the Lord’s favor from you. We’ll see each other often in the future. I hope Concubine Yin can take good care of me.”

“Then let me explain it. Princess Consort found me to serve the Lord. So during this time I’ve been taking care of him. The Lord is really forceful, even I have a hard time taking it every night. Right now my back is still hurting.”

“When you were sitting on the steps just now, you were waiting for the Lord, right? Look at this pitiful face of yours. Don’t wait anymore. With my meticulous care, he probably won’t think about you for a while~”

After saying this, and under the murderous look of Song Qing, Hong Lian walked away with a sway of his butt. As he walked, he hummed a little tune. “It was supposed to be a strong opponent, but turns out it’s just a fool with a good body~ How boring.”

Hong Lian’s sigh could be heard from far away, as if it was purposefully said for Shen Yu to hear.

(Ch 77) “Do you see this? This is the jade ring that the Lord gave me this morning for satisfying him.” Hong Lian lifted his left thumb, and indeed there was a top-quality jade ring on it. Hong Lian tilted it toward the light and admired it with glee.

Hong Lian sneered in disdain, “Of course, a mute can’t openly ask for rewards. You’ve been with the Lord for a while now, you must have gotten something worth money from him? Let’s admire it! You have to take advantage of when men are in the throes of desire to bring up your requests, they’ll agree for sure!”

“But also you can’t talk, I wonder what it’s like when the Lord is bedding someone who’s silent. Even if he beds you to death you can’t yell. Any moaning must sound really dry, the Lord really likes my cries.”

(Ch 78) “Are you an idiot?” Hong Lian asked rudely, “You must know all about Zhenbei Wang’s past love affairs? All of those boy toys and concubines were hopelessly devoted to him. And have you seen Zhenbei Wang miss any of them after they died one after the other? What makes you think you’re better than any of them?”

“How would I dare to run rampant like this if I didn’t already have the Lord’s permission? The Lord said that if I liked it, then I could take it back to my room. Master Song, your rank isn’t high enough, right? Can you protect your little master?”

Hong Lian took out Zhenbei Wang’s command, and seeing Song Qing’s speechlessness, he let out a cold laugh and continued. “And these charcoal braziers. My place is too cold. He’s too sickly to recover anyway, take them away!”
Two servants weren’t enough to move even the charcoal braziers away, so Hong Lian shouted for ten more people. Not long after that, Song Hua Pavilion sat emptied.

(Ch 81) It was cool at night, and Shen Yu got up. He wanted to go to Bingxin Pavilion to look again, but Bingxin Pavilion was very remote, and Shen Yu couldn't remember the way. Shen Yu is most familiar with the road, even with his eyes closed, he can walk over.

The study room was still lit with lamps, and it was as bright as daylight inside. Two figures were reflected on the window, one was shaking violently above, and the other was panting and panting below.

(Ch 82) Honglian's groaning sound is really pleasant to listen to. When King Zhenbei goes deep, he sings like a song, and when King Zhenbei speeds up, he chirps like a bird, always matching the emotional ups and downs of King Zhenbei.

Shen Yu didn't know how long she stood outside, one side of her body was numb, and the people inside died down after the final sprint.

Honglian's voice was lazy, with a hoarseness after being satisfied with love affairs. “My lord, my family saw Concubine Yin today, she seems to have lost her soul, don't you feel distressed?".

"Humph.”

King Zhenbei didn't answer directly, as if he did something, which made Honglian cry out.

“How are you, my lord...” Hong Lian’s voice was unsteady, "After all, he was your former favorite, you are really so cruel, and you are not tempted by him at all?

His doubts were easily resolved. It turned out that in King Zhenbei's heart, he had always been a lowly slave, and he was also delusional, restless, trying to seduce Emperor Ye to climb to a higher branch.

"Then, my lord, do you like the slave family more, or do you prefer Shen Yu more?".

"At this moment, I naturally like you a lot.”

(Ch 83) After Shen Yu fled back to Shaohua Courtyard, in the study, King Zhenbei had grabbed Honglian lustfully and pressed him under his body, but suddenly stopped, and glanced sideways at the dark outside.

(The AFTER Shen Yu left makes me think ML knew Shen Yu was there and was lustful just to show. But it doesn’t make sense still, that he and Hong Lian were having sex before Shen Yu came. uuugh)

"My lord~ what's the matter?"

Hong Lian was already hungry and thirsty, and her two long straight legs hooked around King Zhenbei's waist, and took the initiative to meet him.

"Nothing, you go back.'.
King Zhenbei got up, grabbed his robe, Honglian put on the clothes in astonishment, and was driven out of the study by King Zhenbei inexplicably.

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