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The story itself is generic, read plenty of these types. The only real draw here is the art style and the change in style is taking away that immersion. Perhaps the new artstyle would grow on, but the decision to de-tan ye jun is a bad idea

I wouldn't necessarily reread it again however I did enjoy reading this manhwa, Surprised to find out it's first published in 2000, but I can kinda see the character design inspiration based out of late 1990's Japanese BL

The story is complex and the characters have a bit of depth and the story does not make an attempt to smooth over the character's flaws but rather uses it to build up and the lack of detailed smutty scenes actually made it more enjoyable to read as it allowed to focus more on characters and story itself

But I didn't enjoy the confinement trope. To me it felt like it's inserted just for the sake of inducing angst rather than being part of story. Perhaps it's to show the readers that Taeyul is not really that great of that guy and showing his dark, sordid side would put perspective of what he did in his previous relation and to show that he isn't the perfect man the story upto this point built him up nevertheless, it didn't sit right with me (but the manhwa spared us mental distress by not showing it in detail unlike modern stories)

And as for Taeyul himself, just like Soohan, I didn't like the character at first but he grew on me, he's confident, talented and decisive and he's your typical high-spec man but he's also obsessive, possessive and can become violent when his emotions took over and looking at how he was delving at how his previous relation ended, pretty sure his life upto that point were easy going and he got his way with everything and that's how I feel with his relation with Soohan, sure he does love him but to me it felt like Taeyul got his way with Soohan and succeeded in his conquest. I mean he literally said "I'm a hunter, when something slips and escapes me, It drives my desire to conquer it"

But the most important thing is, We didn't get to see Soohan's backstory or his thoughts, like sure we know that he was traumatized by his high school love interest and he ended up in USA and got tangled up with Sungjoon but beyond that, we didnt get much of his thought process just like how we were able to see Taeyul and Sungjoon like only certain parts of his past were selected to be represented to drive the story and not build up his character and we were only getting to know about him from other characters and not himself

And as for side stories, I do agree that Sungjoon's part should have included in the middle of main story and I would have preferred to see Taeyul and Soohan communicating and Taeyul being regretful of his actions towards Soohan when he confined and harmed him. This is not something that should be chalked up as "Oh, he's just a go-lucky guy and probably forgot it", If the high school incident traumatized him then Taeyul's action should have also traumatized him but here we are in the side stories, it's all treated as nothing. Perhaps the author didn't want to delve into this as it would deviate the vibe, but I wished this should have been included as Taeyul is depicted as someone trying his best to rectify the past and omitting this doesn't make much sense

Idk I just feel so sad for Seth. The story itself is fantastic, It's very enjoyable, I put of reading this after completing volume 1 thinking that it would have gotten completed, now I have to wait even long for the story to conclude

There once was a guy called Chunghyun who had it all, good looks, musical talent and rich family and is the envy of all, his own classmates are jealous of him. He caught the eyes of a delinquent called Taehwa who had nothing, seeing a beautiful guy like Chunghyun, Taehwa got drawn to him and wants to become close. They initially had some friction but later on got close. Taehwa developed feelings and so did Chunghyun but both didnt cross the boundaries (but they are aware of each other). Chunghyun attends one on one piano lesson with a creepy pedo who makes moves on Chunghyun (who's blissfully unaware) and Taehwa found out and confronted and beat up that disgusting pedo and went to jail

Chunghyun caught the eyes of a gangster boss who attended one of his concert and made a move, but Chunghyun declined, as his ego got hurt and his loins desired to crush him, that guy destroyed Chunghyun father's business and his family and forced a massive debt on them and even destroyed Chunghyun's hand to ensure they wont be able to pay of debt with Chunghyun's talent and forced him into working as a server in hostess bar, all the while that guy constantly abused Chunghyun to give himself (who held out) and got beat up everyday. Taehwa got out of jail and is now...gangster (suprise) and found Chunghyun working in the hostess bar. Taewha who assumed Chunghyun to be a star is now working here and asked him to come to him. Chunghyun didnt want to burden and wants to rely on his strength and so declined

Taehwa misunderstood this as Chunghyun would rather whore himself out than to rely on him, assaulted him, beat him, broke his ankles and confined him all the while feeling sorry for him (wtf) Chung got ptsd and depression and all, later on Taehwa drunkenly apologizes to Chung and goes on fight that creepy gangster and dies. Later on Chung got to know via Taehwa's underlings that he transferred all property to him and paid off the debt and that he cared for him (bs), despite Chung getting destroyed by him, he still loved him and threw himself at sea

Universe took pity on Chung and gave him another chance and this time, Chung devised a plan to keep himself safe while still gettimg Taehwa's help by becoming his debtor and things go along and Chung confesses that he likes him but he doesnt want to give himself up just to get out of his state but rather wants to be in a equal footing and they become a thing, however Chung's accurate prediction starts to bug Taehwa but Chung got kidnapped by that creepy gangster, Taewha goes to rescue him and fight ensue and Taehwa kills that gangster and both resolve the issues and live happily together

That guy is constantly giving stink to MC like he's the one who's causing issues like dude MC was the one who's suffering at the hands of crown prince and MC returning back to crown prince doesnt sit well with me like he's subjugated to pain and humiliation the whole palace has to witness and he doesnt even have trauma? Even if he's blind in love, his body would have subconciously remember the pain and suffering. He never even had a moment of happiness. From his childhood till present, its all abuse. It should have caused some sort of mental disorder to him

Another thing, making MC look purposefully look young (almost teen) but making him actually older than crown prince is...not sitting well with me. There's a plausible explanation as he's mistreated so much in his childhood he probably didnt receive necessary nutrients (food) for his body to properly develop but he doesnt depicted like someone who's nutritionally stunted, rather as a teen guy who's just labelled as older guy compared to crown prince just to alleviate the issue some people find that a well built guy is railing and torturing who essentially looks like a minor

You have been warned, Avoid this story at all cost to preserve your sanity!

After reading the novel, I observed something about the main characters

Kang Jun has inferiority complex. Even though he thinks strategically, he needlessly obsess over other people's opinions and excessively worries about how he's preceived thinking that he's weak and feeble minded and is obsessive over reputation.

When he met with that american returnee student and talked about how other people perceive Go Yohan as weird and how he seems to pay attention towards Jun, he immediately worries about how others would talk and denounce him. Many people say that Jun is book smart, not street smart, I agree that. When Go Rosah points out that hoe Jun's observation of Yohan being able to take care of himself (basic things like serving food, loading laundry) is ridiculous and says that it simply makes Jun appear as spoiled and lacking basic living skills, I agree. Its not that hard to serve food to eat even if you are rich.

However the most important thing is he seems to seek out someone who can fill the void of his inferiorness. Someone who can command presence, someone who oozes presence and charisma, Someone who's sharp and witty and can outmanuver their way. Thats why he initially fell for Han Junwoo, but when he realizes that Han Junwoo is not sharp and doesnt have much beyond his size, He sides with Go Yohan, not just because he thinks he's a safe bet for his school peace, but rather he sees the ideal version of someone he wants to be (or so I believe). So much so that he's willing to excuse any fault that Go Yohan posesses. This somehow develops into feelings of care and possessiveness, calling him my go yohan, as if go yohan is his thing, his facade of strength.

I do think that Jun is genuinely is shocked and betrayed when Yohan attacked him and is angry (he delibrately cut off contact with Yohan, threw coffee at Yohan after college exams and cursed at him, even not telling where he enrolled) but still he somewhat came to terms with his feelings for Yohan (he mainly ran away in hurry from home to his parents in US just to get off his thoughts of Yohan, but he still thought of him)


But as for Yohan, the more I read he came off more enigmatic. He claims that people in his home hate him, he ignores his family going so far as to dine alone and shuts off in his room and the reason he claims is because he came out as gay in devout catholic home, but his sister says that Yohan is actually spoiled rotten and that their parents actually cherish him and its Yohan who delibrately came out as gay in christmas family celebration (with his extended family) simply because he loves attention (is it like middle child syndrome??) and says that he has ADHD and in one of family portraits where Jun says he wasnt present, was actually Yohan present just behind the camera taking pics with mirror present projecting him holding victory symbol like a cheeky brat

The american returnee guy also said that Yohan does not like someone who seems to surpass him but also hates someone who's beneath him. He likes someone who can augment him like a perfect little chess piece. Yohan hates being played and prefers to be in control. Its still confusing as to why Yohan acted shy in front of family when Jun brought him purposefully when he mistakenly realized his family is mistreating him but acted out so violently like he betrayed. However one thing is clear, Yohan likes Jun, more specifically his attention. Like a child throwing tantrum. Yohan is willing to go any lengths to capture Jun's attention but more than that he's sharp and have good instincts.

The claim of his father hating him is debunked by Yohan's father himself as he claims he loves Yohan but not so much as his "ring finger" (he analogues loving his children as finger and theres only one finger that can wear ring and so theres only one child he holds special) but he beat up Yohan every day to the point of hospitalization throughtout his middle school and still considered him as the successor for the company (perhaps Yohan really is that ring finger and the father simply said to to dump the responsibilities of handling Yohan's eccentricities to Jun)

When Jun avoided him, Yohan threw tantrum and begged and prayed to god to see Jun. He practically threw himself at floor towards Jun, kissing his feet and renouncing god for Jun as his savior, literally throwing himself to prevent acid from burning Jun when Kim Minho tried to attack Jun (Minho planned to take down Yohan with Jun by staging fake proposal to make him out as gay, but sensing that'll ruin Jun himself, he agreed to play along up untill last moment revealed to Yohan about it and Yohan pummeled Minho, causing him to drop out) but still harboring hate towards Jun for lying, abandoning and staging that stunt with family, but his obsessiveness is far greater than his anger. He wants to completely own Jun.

He's like a gleeful child playing with his cherished toy. He hates whenever anyone tries to approach Jun. Yohan has lot of friends but he rarely seems to hang out or even talk or even pay much attention or interest, prefering to playfully torment Jun and hanging out with him instead. So much so when Jun got jealous about Yohan having friends, Yohan said he'll cut ties with anyone in heartbeat, but the thing is its not him willing to cut ties, but rather not wanting Jun to get close, he's projecting that desire which Jun correctly identifies. Yohan actually got into college via early admission but delibrately lowered his requirement to get into humanities degree just to get a chance to meet with Jun. There's this thing, Yohan is just as academically smart like Jun but also street smart. When the Jun's project partner sent this message "Go Yohan r=1−sinθ Kang Jun" as a teasing, Yohan figured out it makes heart on graph (which Jun failed to do) and 128ve980, Jun tried to solve this as a equation, Yohan immediately figured its a viral math puzzle

In college, When Jun's assigment teammate used Jun as his muse for a assigment topic for "Gender and sex" presentation for humanities, Yohan went and confronted him. Yohan is like a ticking timebomb, you dont know what he'll do and you seem to walk around him on eggshells and yet he's charismatic enough that it feels trivial. He's not violent or aggressive, but he carries an aura of danger that tempts anyone to dare play with him (like a devil) and yet throws you off if you make a mistake

Yohan on paper is your typical high spec guy, well built, well endowed, handsome face and rich. More than enough for anyone to put up with some eccentricites. But being with him would pull you deeper into thoughts that it feels like sinking. All in all, it feels difficult to figure out Yohab easily. And as for adult stuff? Yohan is down bad and Jun goes along with flow (though puts on a show of protest) and overall the vibe feels twisted and bit toxic but very interesting. I assumed Jun would hold the leash and walk Yohan like a pet dog, but it feels like its Yohan pulling puppet strings with Jun (but Jun seems alright with letting Yohan to do so and I'm sure he'll cut the string if push comes to shove, but he seems content)

This is not your typical toxic bl. Infact Jiwook is not Juyeon's victim rather its Jiwook getting his due from Juyeon. While the manhwa and story puts on Jiwook getting abused front and center, the actual story is Juyeon who's battling his inner demons coping the abuse he received from Jiwook and yet still harboring feelings for him despite being abused by Jiwook

To put it short, Juyeon used to follow Jiwook during their school days and Juyeon basically acted as his junior running errands and Jiwook looked out for him. Juyeon developed feelings for Jiwook and confessed, but Jiwook along with his friends decided to abuse Juyeon for being 'faggot' and SA him and recorded the abuse and sent it to Juyeon's mother who after watching it collapsed. While the victim suffered the pain, the perepetrator, Jiwook walked on as of nothing happened. So Juyeon decided to get revenge by doing exactly what Jiwook done to him and make him remember the crime he committed

Jiwook is a extremely proud and self centered guy who knocks down on others just to prop himself up which actually plays into his downfall. His so called friends are lookong for a moment to ditch him and see how he falls and the guys who assaulted Jiwook? It's Jiwook who first insulted him and attacked him. I'm not celebrating or condoning actions committed towards Jiwook but rather stating that its a poetic justice, a karmic lash thats being delivered to him for his actions

The inner conflict, fear, anxiety, pain, doubt its felt like i'm the one experiencing it rather than someone observing it. Unfortunately prejudice and hierarchy very much exists in schools. The negative cliches we write it off exists in schools and the social environment in schools is very much toxic and abusive.

Many people write it off as boring and complaining that MC is like 'this and that' is missing the point. He's trying to survive socially in an environment where its basically "dog eat dog" world and him being weak and is from a rich family puts him a big target. We can go on an on about such toxicity and violence and how it exists beyond school but I'm gonna give Jun props for trying to play cards right so that he can emerge unscathed

And for Yohan, its similar in his case too. He's trying to put up appearence so that no one can mess with him as he lost affection and place in his home. He's starved off affection and using his loner status as a currency to put up walls crafting himself as "enigma". I can understand him feeling betrayed and gutted when Jun pulled that stunt (it was meant to be well meaning, but it actually cost Jun Yohan's trust and maybe Yohan father's ire) but the chapter 43 left a bit of bad feeling as he assaulted Jun

And as for from ch 44, everything occuring to him and him drawing parallels to Taeson and Yohan needlessly trying to raise the hell with Jun did send some shivers done the spine as if I'm experiencing it. Miscommunication took hold but I think Yohan should have reached out properly instead of him doing whatever he did upto ch 53 but there's one thing that's bugging me

How did Jun broke his arm? How did he step into glass? I mean Yohan did tell that he would "raise hell" or something similar. If its truly coincidence and Yohan using it to play mind games then its shitty but there's something salvegeable but if its truly Yohan's doing of getting Jun physically hurt then thats a completely different matter entirely. But Yohan did purposefully mess with Jun by needlessly shouting at him openly to gain attention, holding his weakness over him. But Jun also has a hold over Yohan, his weakness at home. If Yohan cross the line too much, Jun can easily pull that card exposing him as gay and reveal that his family is ashamed of him, but it can easily become double edged sword and Yohan's a suprisingly sharp opponent so Jun has to play that card very smartly and carefully

But seeing the special chapters, I guess both did like each other enough where they worked the problems and ended up together, and I think Jun may have gotten his parents blessings (or maybe not, but it'll be interesting to see how that plays out)

If Yohan is sincere about Jun then I would like him to apologize to Jun (it rarely happens in real life, so its fine to expect this much in fiction)

If only I can read the novel, god I miss booktoki, I was unable to find any real equivalent to it...If yall found it, please share the link...

Is the plot with us? Or did it get lost? I have a lot of questions.

whats the Leon's origin? Is Leon transmigrated from Earth or is it another fantasy world? The story kinda hints that Leon have some sort of connection to royalty in his original world

Who's this Cliff guy beyond Leon's guardian and 'lover'? (Cliff hooking up with a kid he practically raised really gives off predatory and grooming)

The part where Cliff got attacked by someone, is that guy Negral?

If that world is perfectly suited for that monsters, then why are the Negral and his cohorts are obsessed with making that world 'livable'? Like wasnt that world already livable?

Are they tourturing Leon out of revenge or for the need? I know for sure that Deus guy is delibrately torturing Leon as a revenge for attacking him and that creepy doctor/scientist guy also does it because Leon's attack caused a parasite to take over half his body

Whats with Negral's obsession with Leon? Why does he dont want Leon to go away? But then is willing to let others have their way with Leon?

Why do they need to repopulate? Dont the population there can reproduce? Why do they need specialized 'vessel' for repopulation?

Why is repopulation heavily dependant on Leon? Just why??

So this plan for repopulation where they are going to breed monsters with Leon, lets assume that for a moment, after this then what? How are they going to create future generations beyond? Do they find someone like Leon? Do they summon creature?

Did they steal the Leon's power once they figured out he's a perfect host? How long were they planning?

So Negral, Deus and others human appearence are all just false? That means like beryl they have true appearence?

Negral is very much focused on controlling Leon and he knows Leon is immune to mind control but is weak to physical touch. Why does he wanr to control Leon? (I suspect after ch 81, Negral threw Leon in purgatory to break his spirit and willpower and make him succumb to physical touch by the monsters so that Leon can be easily to manipulate)

What's the origin of Leon's power? Is it Cliff's? Is the power passed on to Leon as innate or is the source the earrings? If the power source is indeed earrings then why when Leon gets back his earrings unable to fully unleash his power? Did they seal the power itself or did they block the Leon's ability to access the power?

Whats the endgame for Leon before he gets tortured? And whats the endgame for Negral and co? Whats driving them? Whats their goal?

The story has a lot of plot to explain but the majority of content is all about Leon getting tortured to the point its starting to cause discomfort like for what reason is he being put through such pain?

Its not purely billed as fetish porn atleast in that way it can simply be written off as something people use it for their voyeuristic pleasure. It hints at background and story and expects readers to push through a lot of graphic content without any meaningful story to grasp