Polinsesi's Questions (11)

After that data wipeout sadly the comments were gone forever. Pretty much irrecovarable.

We still can make new comments though?

Yes we can. Just all the old ones including top user's comments on the description are gone

koi kirari, kage sururi and tonari no usotsuki (suzaka shina) and Ai Sareta Gari No Tsukushi Kata (Yaoi)

Too bad I already read those but loved them. Thank youuu. :3

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_perfect/

Thank youuu :3

Wow, I enjoyed reading it! Thank you so much. They have explained everything so perfectly even a no brainer would understand. Surprisingly, all the points being raised while reading a BL were also included there.

it's just fiction has the right to explore dark themes, and readers have the right to criticize how those themes are written or used.

very loose definition of debates on here when it's usually one side not even being open to these points to feel superior. they don't want a conversation, they just want to be right.

broadly agree, but saying fiction doesn't have the same moral weight as real life behavior and shouldn't be treated the same way doesn't mean it can't be criticized for it at all or that there can't be a reaction based in morality or values. by criticism, I mean of the literary sort - identifying the elements of a story and analyzing why and how they are used in the story. if there's going to be freedom of creation, then there can and should be freedom of critique.
many people on that thread and on here conflate criticism with censorship. criticism doesn't equal censorship, especially when the people doing so are just an assortment of anonymous accounts on a pirate site, for example. someone can have an honest critical engagement with how a work depicts immoral acts and behaviors or how that work is inaccurate in depicting the reality of a situation in service of whatever the creator wanted to express with their story and conclude that it's done well or not, or is a mixed result. the op of that post is opposed to strict negative judgements of things, and that's my biggest disagreement. something can straightforwardly be terrible on that count and worth condemnation. anyways, there's a difference between government/state censorship, censorship or restriction through market means, and social reactions like criticism, backlash, or censure.
fiction isn't the source of immorality, but it reflects real life issues to various degrees, and it can be criticized on those grounds. people aren't used to culture criticism or to analyzing works in their real world contexts, but i think those are worthwhile explorations. that reddit thread and most defenses of things exploring the immoral and taboo rely on the idea that fiction and media have little to no effect on people irl, and I don't think that true in the way those defenders want it to be. people don't just blindly follow and copy, but I'm not convinced that there's no impact on attitudes and paradigms. you can't divorce these things from their cultural contexts!
it's not just what immoral or taboo things are included in a story, but how and why the story engages with it, and how the audience engages with it. all of that requires critical analysis, which sometimes will come to the conclusion that something is an unabashed celebration/endorsement of immorality that should be condemned. have the people making the "it has no real-life impact" defense ever considered how that applies to racism and misogyny and other forms of prejudice and bigotry? or do they only think that idealized depictions of sexual abuse and taboos are completely disconnected from the world around them?

I just think the author of that post was just addressing some of those critiques. And I found his point of view very interesting, since I haven't heard someting similar before.
People sharing their opinions and listening to each other, that's what freedom of speach is about after all.

I just think it's interesting to challenge out beliefs, and not always hearing the same narrative. Even if we don't agree with the other, it is enriching to hear someting that may or may not contradict us. That way we can further cement our beliefs or gain another point of view. I'm just speaking in general here. ^^

I understand where you are coming from, and I also understand what he is trying to convey. Understanding doesn't mean I 100% agree with what you are saying, or with him.

I first would like to thank you for your reply and for taking the time to read the reddit post and all.
My objective was just to share this piece of writing so that everyone can take from it what they can. Each person is different, has different experiences in life that have shaped the human that they are. And I really think that our differences are our most precious treasures. ^^

eell, you can’t expect everyone to be open to other people’s opinions here because they tend to take pride in what they believe in. many readers struggle to accept criticism of things they like because they see it as acceptable for themselves but not for others, which often leads to long arguments. considering that many users here are still minors and teenagers, they're still retarded and aren't fully open-minded. i would also like to add that the reddit post felt more open because the people engaging in the thread were mostly mature enough to understand that dark romance is okay, and that it is also valid for readers to criticize any work, since we are talking about freedom of speech.

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/eye_of_the_storm/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/karasugaoka_don_t_be_shy/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/karasugaoka_don_t_be_shy_2/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/shima_chanchi_no_tsugaijijou/

Thank you very much. I'm sorry for only replying now. I'm very grateful for all your recs. <3

You're welcome! Glad to be of help

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You cracked me up x))
Thanks for all these recs, now I have a lot to look forward to ^^

I don't know if you'd like this one as much, but the first thing that came to mind was "night of london"

Wow, thank you, the plot is really similar, even down to the opening scene. :')
I'll give it a try now! :3

Wolf in the House! The first couple is a little silly and goofy but the second couple is definitely up your alley. Werewolves/weredogs who turn into human at night. The romance is amazing and the art is simple yet so detailed. There's underlying gang and mafia activity that becomes more relevant further in the story. It's more romance focused in the beginning and gets more serious and dark as the story goes on.
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/wolf_in_the_house/

Wow, it's still ongoing?! :o
Thank you for reminding me of that one. Although I never read it, you really made me curious about it. I'll also give it a shot! :3
Thank youuu <33

You're welcome

was about to reply "i like seeing twinks get double penetration" until you said not the smut

Well, some people have a curiosity on what being poly is like; some people are interested in the concept of poly, but aren't actually into it, do they have to be poly in order to like poly related things? ╮(￣▽￣)╭ I'm not poly, but it's interesting to see other different types of relationships exists!

I like to see things from a different perspective i guess. I'm fully monogamous and have been in a mono relationship for years, but some of my friends are poly and i know a lot about it, so i guess i wanted to see how such a relationship would be portrayed in a manga

Personally it's to do with the way I see relationships. My brain puts all relationships that are between consenting adults on the same level. I understand the differences but my brain still just computes it as people who love each other, which is what I enjoy reading.

lol u could ask this question about anything. why do people read certain literature that have heavy christian themes if they do not practice that religion? if people believe murder is wrong why do they still read murder mysteries or romance with murders or anything. just cuz u do not do the same things as someone doesn’t mean u cannot read and/or enjoy about it

That's not exactly the same thing, is it?
I don't thing people "enjoy" the murder aspect of the plot... it just adds drama and stakes to the story, etc.

Thank you all for your hones answers. ^^

specird, you really cracked me up. x))

I guess I get it, it's mostly curiosity. That's fair, even my introduction to bl was through my curiosity.
Or it's about witnessing the love people have for each other, that's cute. ^^

You made me laugh

i’m p sure ppl will be happy about some characters getting murdered like a rapist or what not. even just villains like mahito from jjk or that guy who fused his daughter and a dog together

I haven't read coyote before and unfortunately don't know that many enemies to lovers but these are some of my fav bls ever:

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/boy_meets_maria/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/shimanami_tasogare/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hidamari_ga_kikoeru/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/banana_fish/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/ao_no_flag/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/sasaki_to_miyano/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/geu_kkeute_issneun_geos/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/someone_else_s_bl_manhwa/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/dream_away/
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/monochrome_rumor/

According to me, these are good:
The beast must die
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/the_beast_must_die/

Love in orbit
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/love_in_orbit/

Thank you very much! <3
Just a precision, not enemies to lover, but lovers who are supposed to be enemies but they fall in love. x)
You want the death of my poor lil' heart with that banana fish of yours. x))
<3 <3 <3

def good recs
I changed my mind on "The beast must die", I'm gonna give it a chance. Thank you <3

Lovers who r supposed to be enemies?like these ones? Lmk

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/utsukushii_karada/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/barbarities/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/kono_ore_ga_omae_nanka_suki_na_wakenai/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/murderer_llewellyn_s_enchanting_dinner_invitation/

Right, after reading what I wrote, it sounded confusing to me too. x)
I'm gonna give an example: In coyote, the uke is werewolf, and the seme is from a family of werewolf hunters. But they fall in love at first not knowing their clans are enemies, and then they find out, and then tragedy x)) basic romeo and juliet trope :p
I love Ogawa Chise senseiii

Thank you for the recs! Historical mangas are so good!! I was waiting for Barbarities to finish since forever until I forgot about it... :')
Thank you for reminding me of this gem!! <3
Shonen ai def have the best plots :p

Ohh like the trope impossible to get together but they fall in love anyway? Hmmm

What about ghost x human?
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/goshujinsama_toke_dama/

And this one
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/ookami_wa_hana_no_kaori/

Both hurts
& Yess Shonen ai r my TOP TIERR (i look for dem plots indeed)

lol read them both! x)
Goshujinsama toke dama is such a gem, I guess I'm gonna reread it. x)) Thank you for reminding me of these, I love them!

Yaoi with plots are such a rarity nowadays, it's all about the *** and that gets tiring. But the thing is, in shonen ai you don't get much of the romance. Oh well, even in yaoi you don't get much romance, you jump straight to the "plot" :p

Damnnn gorl u must be a covid reader like me cz we read the same old stuff. Real tho, maybe thats where shonen ai's art is—the romance made u feel like u crave for one and when they give u one, it feels heavenly, thats why i like it yaoi dont yap much, they give plot, seggs, and then realize that they love each other, i mean ik why ur fav is coyote

my list of fav is this https://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/454829/
though i'd advise you against the first two x)))
yep, that's y I got into novels at some point, btw there are some novel adaptations that are readdy good, plotwise mainly :p
like little mushroom

These arent enemies to lovers since im not really into that, but theyre really good

I got you:

Manga:
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hana_to_junketsu/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/konbini_kun/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/karasugaoka_don_t_be_shy/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/eigyou_nika/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/hinekure_chaser/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/konosaki_wa_futarikiride/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/warawanakute_ii_noni/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/dear_signal/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/renai_nante_itashimasen/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/sutemi_no_koubousen/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/thoroughbred_wa_nabikanai/

https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/suki_de_gomen/

Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, this is exactly in line with what I was looking for!! <3