I find it laughable how navier's defenders defend her being ignorant and pro-slavery by saying she grew up in a world where slavery is a norm. by that logic, then rashta shouldnt be hated on for being a mistress when mistresses and concubines are aslo a norm back then. Navier is a classist and a hypocrite which reflects the author's mindset. She belittle Rashta for being stupid and uneducated. She views a young former slave to be manipulative and cunning, yet falls far a war criminal like heinrey.
Rashta haters would always blame her for being too greedy of power yet the same can be said about Heinrey. They would always bring up the fact that Rashta cut off a maid's tongue but somehow all the atrocities that Heinrey did like killing innocent children, scheming to colonise another empire and planning to ruin Navier's reputation are somehow forgotten.
This story is so problematic that it makes me wonder what went on inside the author's head when they wrote this misogynistic classist shit.
YUPP SPOT ON
Agree with you. Further adding: what is inside the brains of fans who like/love this shịt! And then the producers who turned it into a kdrama! Messed up in the head is what it is. Also, given all the war crimes happening nowadays, was there really a need to have a war criminal as the ML?? Korean writers are sick fucks! No wonder their the Korean society is so messed up, they're so classist, it gets reflected in manhwas and so on.
Dogeon the only one mature enough. the other two are practically manchild.
theyre all manchilds bro look at how dogeon literally fried kang mins chance at apologizing on call, but oh well idk how haru ended up giving him ANOTHER chance after the missed call incident
Dogeon is her first and she don't have anyone to compare
I'm still in the very early episodes and the mc kinda rubs me the wrong way with how she villainised Diana because she dumped her favourite character. it just gives boymom energy. i know the author probably gonna reveal that Diana is some bitchy character later on but did the mc know of that fact? cus all im seeing her reason to be mad at Diana is bcus she didnt appreciate the thing Cael did for her
That's not the only thing she did.
She's the kind of person who always believed she was special. Someone with "Main Character" energy, because she is indeed blessed by their goddess.
Diana led Cael on. She knew that he loved her but she chose Helios (the crown prince) because apparently his position was better. She did not directly reject Cael, instead she expected him to always be there for her and expect him to be happy for her despite not choosing him. If you ask me, this is a total d#ck move.
Helios also expected the same. They were too focused on their own happiness that they neglected their own friend who was suffering because they never thought of his well-being.
They apparently knew he was depressed and distant with them but they thought he'd come around and focused more on themselves. Which, ultimately drove him to hurting himself.
1) That doesn’t justify Helios’s actions, even if she wasn’t any better. 2) It’s exhausting and disappointing to see yet another story where the heroine is once again this manipulative, selfish girl—we’re starting to get tired of it, especially since most of the time—and here as well—it’s used to inspire empathy for the FL or the ML (in this case, Helios; and to justify the FL's actions), without any real depth or nuance on either side. It's easy writing.
(*not Helios but Cael, sorry* mistake lol)
I do agree with you and the og commenter, that FL is indeed a very selfish character. It was refreshing to see a main character that isn't really the heroine type. More like an obsessive fan extra.
I'm not taking either side (FL or Diana) because they were both villains if you look at it as an observer.
Diana's a narc with main character syndrome, and FL was really unstable since the beginning of the story. To think she was so committed to torturing Diana to make her apologize to Cael when Cael himself doesn't want any. He just wants to forget them and move on but FL wasn't letting up.
She claimed she's doing all of them for Cael but she never really listened to what he wanted. Even opted for suicide when she realized how everything she did for him was all for nothing when he tells her he wants to stop and focus on them now.
I gotta be honest, I was really trying my best to understand the FL since she is the main character but I knew deep down how wrong she was in everything and I mentioned how frustrating that was in my previous comments.
Guess the other comments just made me realize there was no need to pick a side between the two because they all sucked in this story.
I understand what you're saying. Personally, I have to admit I was disappointed on both sides, because I saw potential in this manhwa.
for a guy who's obsessed over masculinity, he sure sits like a girl
Thanks to his sister messing with his hormones Iltak is Twink forever. (〜￣△￣)〜
i've been waiting for mirae and wookyung ever since mirae arc years ago and we finally getting it. i read the raw and now im just hopelessly waiting for the new chapters to come out
Honestly I couldnt get enough of this story, or maybe I couldnt get enough of Rosen and Ian. this story was short but it ended beautifully. It's quite rare to see stories that touches deep and dark topics like war and abuse to a deeper level. This story shows what a war does to the citizens and also to those in the frontline. I love how it shows how much Ian was impacted by it and doesnt glorify Ian as a hero as much. Rosen too was a victim of physical and sexual abuse. the story didnt just gloss over it. it shows everything that she went through and what she did for survival. Unlike most stories out there that tend to put these kind of topics just to brush it over and act like nothing happened.
Also Ian is like the most ideal man ever. I cannot stop saying how perfect he is. he's caring and respectful. he yearns for rosen and yet he knows to let her go. he isnt overly simping for rosen and can think rationally. he knows what he wants and not simply does it just because female lead wants it, cus i kinda hate male leads who are borderline obsessed and act like a dog who cant think for themselves. Though Ian is the type that typically would be potrayed as aloof or cold, he's far from it and knows how to express himself. he isnt shy, nor cold, nor timid. He is strict but gentle. he is simply honest and true to himself.
anyway, pls suggest any manhwa with such man so i can move on from ian connor.
they were so focused with their confession that they completely forgot conan was there as well
mincheol is lucky haneul likes him because if i was her, i would've gone to the new guy. he's HOTTTT
FUCK UEAHHHHHH, I LOVE HIM ALREADY
IT'S TIME TO CELEBRATE ICB ROXANA ACTUALLY COMING BACK