Poni

Bro read the novel before saying things like this. ML wasn't even aware he's fucking someone. They even made mc wear gloves during the act so he won't be able to even leave his fingerprints or dna in any form. ML is infact a green flag and I love the mc equally

Yup. I didn't know that he literally didn't know he was assaulting someone but when a story brings up a rut in an omegaverse story you know there's typically no way that the alpha consented to this either.

MC literally said he was brutal before later become gentle so are saying it's unconscious then how did he find out he was fuking someone and went to find MC later enlightenment me

And even a virgin with no knowledge would know what happened to his body if he had sex full night or many nights so I would say it's convenient plot device both of these points contradict each other

And I am talking about Manhwa I don't care about novel I gave my opinion based on what manhwa told me if in later chapters ML can change my mind I will delete my review but until then he looks like a black carpet to me

But one thing doesn't change in Korean manhwa MC has to always go through R*pe by ML just new excuses come every time but if you say he is green flag I will wait and see what happens so no issues here

MC literally said he was brutal before later become gentle so are saying it's unconscious then how did he find out he was fuking someone and went to find MC later

And even a virgin with no knowledge would know what happened to his body if he had sex full night or many nights so I would say it's convenient plot device both of these points contradict each other

And would you not do a inquiry if you don't have a memory of whole week and In so many ABO stories Alpha knows full well what he is doing just can't control himself and some of them even control themselves too

And I am talking about Manhwa I don't care about novel I gave my opinion based on what manhwa told me if in later chapters ML can change my mind I will delete my review but until then he looks like a red flag but I will wait and see

But one thing doesn't change in Korean manhwa MC has to always go through R*pe by ML just new excuses come every time but if you say he is green flag I will wait and see what happens so no issues here bro

So, I will trust you bro and wait for later chapters

He didn't go to find him. He waa taking his sister around as a promise. That's why the ML and the MC of the original novel (y'know, the one the new MC reincarnated into) met. Are you actually reading the story? And why are you talking about the novel for this manhwa? I never said anything about it. I'm purely talking about the manhwa. And in the manhwa he clearly says he was essentially locked up and that he has no memory of what happened the night before after he wakes up except that he feels a sense of emptiness. Of course when a rut starts to calm down the alpha will be more gentle. It doesn't mean he's going to remember more.

Also what does not having the memory of something have to do with whether he figured out he was assaulting/having sex with someone or not? It doesn't. I simply talked about how he had no memory of doing it because he was consumed by the rut. Regardless of what he figured out the next day the rut will still consume him once more the next night and he won't remember what he did the next morning, in turn, again, after all. And with all this I'm just pointing out that following what the manhwa says itself you should've figured all this out.

Yo, chill out bro sure you never said anything about novel someone else said and I mistakenly replied to you about novel too, it got mixed up
And knowing whether you had sex with someone or not has nothing to do with memory, your body knows automatically and unconsciously too and when you do you will ask around what happened, you can forget about the person sure but you will know about the act

Other than ok whatever you say I will wait for the story to progress but for now I don't like ML, are you satisfied now

(●'◡'●)ﾉ (●'◡'●)ﾉ (▰˘◡˘▰)(๑•ㅂ•)و✧

(●'◡'●)ﾉ (=・ω・=)

So you actyally have no idea about the BL world do you? Don't get me wrong, I'm not that fond of this kind of relationships either, but in cases like this "that" is what the story is about, lol, and is really soft I must say, I have friends who have shown me some things wow girl, you couldn't bear. My most sincere advice, just search for the genres you like, there are a looot of people who love this and worse, and you won't change that, wether they have healthy relationships in rl or not, that's their business. What I mean is: this is not the place to talk about mental and emotional health at all jsjsjs. Btw, I really like minwha's work and I'm happily married, have a little baby and believe me, we do not normalize any kind of violence

Fiction is not reality. You dont have to date a man like jk. Not every story needs to have the ideal man of yours as a seme. Dislike it? Drop it. People don't have to stop liking something just because it makes you uncomfortable. The world doesn't revolve around you.

One more time for the people in the back

Out of curiosity, hit me with some of your well-written romances

Grandmaster of Demonic cultivation, turning, Heaven's official blessing, little mushroom, renenion, Our Sunny Days, Cherry Blossoms After Winter, Sign (or On or Off), Synamatic error etc. I forgot other names because green flag stuff is so rare I have to search it up like digging in a ocean.

Other than Demonic cultivation and heaven's blessing I don't think anything got much popularity

And I miss typed I didn't meant to say ignored, I meant it's doesn't get written while toxicity flies in my face every other second.

I think you're misunderstanding my criticism.

I know toxic fiction exists, and I'm not asking people to stop reading it. I've been reading BL long enough to know Jinx isn't even close to the darkest thing in the genre.

My issue isn't that the relationship is toxic. My issue is that a large part of the fandom treats it as a great LOVE STORY rather than what it actually is: an abusive relationship with a power imbalance.

Enjoying toxic fiction is one thing. Romanticizing it is another.

And yes, people can enjoy stories like this while being perfectly healthy in real life. I never claimed otherwise. But "there are worse stories" doesn't make Jinx a good romance, just like there being worse criminals doesn't make someone innocent.

We can enjoy a story and still criticize the relationship it portrays. I want for good written contest to be written more than toxic stories that's it ╥﹏╥

It's funny how every defense of Jinx eventually becomes:

"Fiction isn't reality."

"Just drop it."

"The world doesn't revolve around you."

Yet nobody explains why the relationship is actually romantic.

You're defending my right to dislike it, which I already have. What you're not doing is defending the relationship itself.

A story being fictional doesn't make its relationship healthy.

And people criticizing a story doesn't mean they think the world revolves around them.

You're arguing against points I never made.

I never said fiction is reality. I never said people should stop liking it. I never said every seme has to fit my standards.

My criticism is that people keep calling an abusive and manipulative relationship a LOVE STORY and then get defensive when someone disagrees.

Just say we like garbage stories why call it romance.

If your best defense is "stop criticizing it," then you've already conceded the actual argument.

Don't have any points go to sleep kid ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

dude, you don't even pay for the story. What gives you the right to hate it. The entitlement....

Good content doesn't get written as much that is what I wanted to say

I don't want it limited to just p*rn stuff with no good plot stories. I want good and actual plot with healthy romance in at least main characters like take Demonic cultivation for example.

I want categories in BL like comedy, romance, horror, sci-fi etc and don't want it limited to be toxic romance. Toxic is so common like a Salt in food in BL world. （/TДT)/

What gives me the right to hate it? The same thing that gives you the right to love it- having an opinion.

You don't need to pay for a story to criticize it, just like you don't need to pay for a story to praise it.

If payment determined whether an opinion was valid, then only paying readers would be allowed to comment at all.

unless someone pays for a story they're not allowed to criticize it, but they're allowed to praise it for free?

Interesting rule. Does it only apply to negative opinions, or do positive opinions require a receipt too?

So am I actually allowed to demand quality content with great romance and a good plot, or do I need to pay first before having standards?

Just trying to understand the rules here. Apparently criticism now requires a subscription fee.

"then only paying readers would be allowed to comment at all." Actually yes. We are here because we cant afford paying. Disrespecting the author already. You disrespect the author x10 hard by refusing to drop their work and complaining like a miserable person while not even paying. You opinion doesn't matter let alone your stance on the subject of consumerism because you are just a whiny person who shouldn't even read BL at all. it is clear you don't like it. go outside and touch some grass isntead of acting like a church representative under BL manga comment sectiob. Lol

Ohhh you’re into the Chinese Manhua, for some reason those don’t usually do it for me. But I do looove cherry blossoms after winter, and I enjoyed sign and semantic error. Haven’t finished my sunny days yet. Thanks for the recs!

Here are some more with green flags if you’re interested:
-Here You Are
-King Maker
-Path to you
-love is loading
-perfect buddy
-guiding hazard
-tonari no metaller-san
-romance but not romantic
-neon sign amber
-joou to shitateya
-brother auto spot

You can have an opinion without going out of your way to insult the author and the people reading the manhwa. How many of us are over in your soft-core comment sections complaining about how it’s all fluff and no actual substance? Not a whole lot, if any at all. Go back to your fluff already come on

Oh thanks, I will read them (=・ω・=) and try turning novel it's good and it's korean available on ridi books

I am a paying reader

Go read fluff" ╮(￣▽￣)╭
BL survives on a massive audience. If authors get to enjoy the views, engagement, and support, then readers get to criticize too. It's a two-way street, not a VIP club where only praise is allowed.

And after all these replies, nobody has explained why this relationship is romantic. It's just been "leave," "drop it," and "go somewhere else."

And incase you didn't notice I mainly criticized readers for calling it a LOVE STORY my what a joke to towards love.

Also, where is this magical land of fluff and good romance you keep talking about? My whole complaint is that BL is already drowning in toxic porn with no plot stories.
Sorry for having standards, I guess. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Yeah they can criticize it sure. But you’re over here virtue signalling up a storm lol so I’m just thinking fluff would be a much better read for you. You won’t feel as stressed and we won’t have to deal with you complaining in the comment section. It’s a win-win.

“And after all these replies, nobody has explained why this relationship is romantic.” so……. Does the tag “no love trope” mean nothing to you or….? Nobody’s explained why the relationship is romantic because... IT ISNT. The entire manhwa and the novel it’s based off of makes it extremely clear that there’s no love or romance in Jiwook+Juyeon’s relationship. Juyeon is going through obsession, he doesn’t actually like Jiwook and adult Jiwook never liked Juyeon in the first place.

The “magical land of fluff and good romance” is all over the place. And there IS plot to this story, if you read the novel or have even researched it you’d have an idea of what the plot is. Everything that’s happening right now is in accordance to the novel plot line, but the manhwa doesn’t go into as much detail (with dialogue and info dumping) as the novel does. You just kind of have to have a basic understanding of why things are happening the way they are for the events and passage of time so far to make full sense. If you’re going into this manhwa without knowledge of the novel, it’s just going to look like rapey smut

You’re a paying reader? Then why are you here, on a free site? How many other sites have you been to just to complain in the comment section??

So after all that, we finally agree on something-

"It isn't romantic."

Great. That was my point from the start.

As for "virtue signalling" criticizing a relationship isn't virtue signalling. It's called having an opinion. If praise is allowed in the comment section, criticism is too.

And I didn't start any storm. I posted my opinion and moved on. You all chose to reply to it. If disagreeing opinions should simply "move on" then feel free to follow your own advice.

And telling readers to read the novel to understand the plot isn't exactly a glowing defense of the manhwa. A story should be able to stand on its own without homework.

So thanks for clarifying that the relationship isn't romantic. That's a lot closer to my original point than most of the replies I've gotten. (ノ≧∇≦)ノ

There’s no relationship to criticize (and apparently you’re happy about that..? What IS your entire point..?)

Never said you started a storm. I said you’re virtue signally up a storm - meaning you’re talking a lot and going the same points over and over.

You can have criticisms but you don’t have to insult the author and the readers, which is what you did in your original comment

Not using that as a defence for the manhwa. I’m not even defending the manhwa itself. I’m explaining points that go with your complaints. I don’t care if you like this comic or not, it’s not my work. What I care about is you insulting the author and the readers for enjoying the content/themes.

The only reason this story doesn’t stand on its own (to you anyway. I’m sure there’s lots of people out there who have been guessing at the backstory who all haven’t read or researched the novel) is because it’s doing an extremely slow burn (way slower than the book), with zero hints at all to the character’s shared backstory. Also never said you had to read the novel - I said you can research it too. Literally a quick google search like “reverse thinking novel plot” or “reverse thinking novel explanation” would give you everything you need to know if you can’t follow the manhwa

So after all these comments, we finally agree:

It isn't romantic. It's obsession, not love.

Great. That was literally my point.(〜￣△￣)〜

As for "virtue signalling," posting an opinion isn't virtue signalling. I made a comment. You disagreed and replied. Nobody forced you to engage with it. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

And "go read fluff" is a weird response. If you don't like my criticism, you're free to do exactly what you're telling me to do and move on.

Also, reading fluff wouldn't magically make this story's plot better. That's the whole point of the criticism.

At this point, you're mostly repeating things I've already addressed, so I don't see much point continuing the discussion.

So after all these comments, we finally agree-

It isn't romantic. It's obsession, not love.

Great. That was literally my point.(〜￣△￣)〜

As for "virtue signalling," posting an opinion isn't virtue signalling. I made a comment. You disagreed and replied. Nobody forced you to engage with it. （￣へ￣）

And "go read fluff" is a weird response. If you don't like my criticism, you're free to do exactly what you're telling me to do and move on. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Also, reading fluff wouldn't magically make this story's plot better. That's the whole point of the criticism. (︶︿︶)

At this point, you're just repeating yourself. Either my point wasn't understood the first time, or we're going in circles.

So after all these comments, we finally agree:
It isn't romantic. It's obsession, not love.
Great. That was literally my point.
As for "virtue signalling," posting an opinion isn't virtue signalling. I made a comment. You disagreed and replied. Nobody forced you to engage with it.
And "go read fluff" is a weird response. If you don't like my criticism, you're free to do exactly what you're telling me to do and move on.
Also, reading fluff wouldn't magically make this story's plot better. That's the whole point of the criticism.
At this point, you're just repeating yourself. Either my point wasn't understood the first time, or we're going in circles.

So we agree it's obsession, not love, which was my point from the start. Posting an opinion isn't virtue signalling, nobody forced you to reply, and "go read fluff" doesn't magically improve this story's plot. We're just going in circles now, and since this is the reply limit, I won't waste more time repeating myself. Don't know whether it will reach you or not.

This is just wasting my time I won't repeat again and you agreed with me so there is no need for more discussion.

I guess my reply won't reach bye

I mean….. I’m an adult with a life, I can’t be on a manga site getting pissy with readers and authors 24/7 like you are apparently it’s Monday for me right now, and the only reason you’re getting a reply at all is because I happened to check this manhwa for a chapter update while on break at work loooooool didn’t even realize you messaged me back until I noticed THREE notifications from you get a new hobby that’s not complying online about fictional story plots pal, seriously.

Blindness, hypocrisy, and low IQ at their peak.

Ever heard of SUMMER VACATION, or is that a new concept for you? unlike the fantasy version of me you've invented of me. You don't even get vacation, oh my such tragedy, working your old bones like that

What happened, grandpa? Still stuck at a desk during summer vacation instead of fighting kids online for toxic porn?

Lol are you finished….? This is getting unhinged now

Yep I’ve heard of it. Even had my own if you can believe that! Wow I know, crazy! But unlike you ~~ at 27 years old, I don’t have all day every day to spend online spamming a stranger over and over again in the comments of a smut manhwa while trying my absolute hardest to fuel an argument.

You said I proved your point right? Then WHY KEEP RESPONDING TO THESE COMMENTS after I stopped responding to your final word? You win. Congratulations!! want a medal? Like seriously, the fuck are you doing with your days? Ever heard of a magical land called OUTSIDE? You should go check it out! There’s a whole world out there aside from your lonely ass bedroom and there’s more things to do with your life other than try to continue arguments online.

So once again: get a life. Literally anything aside from continuously bugging me after I stopped responding to the final word I let you have because (as the adult here) I realized: I’m talking to a god damn wall. So I gave up trying to talk to you. It’s annoying having to repeat myself over and over again and reword what I'm trying to prove as my point. This isn’t a “fantasy image” anymore - you’re legitimately deranged if you’re STILL trying to bother me and continue an argument OVER PORN. How much virtue signally can you possibly do when you’re here doing the reading version of watching porn for the plot??
Get medicated

What?? Nothing to say now? I’m here and able to talk you little shit. Let’s go. Let’s continue the argument come on. What else could you POSSIBLY have to say about it????

Ah nothing, alright then you little fucking prick. Some ending notes for you school style ~
a) get a life
b) stop fucking talking to me. It’s annoying.
c) there’s better things to do than bitch about smut.

Bye bye

I didn't read your nonsense this time, grandpa, not even a single word of your mental vomit, but you started it first, you brainless pig, without knowing a single thing about me. And how uneducated are you that you thought just because you don't have vacations in your 2nd-grade job, others are the same?

People like you are always the same. They can't win a logical argument and lack the common sense to admit the truth, and at last they show what their true level is in human evolution: below negative.

Lol “WiThOuT kNoWiNg A SiNgLe tHiNg AbOuT me”