"As I thought, I wasn't wrong!
Grayson's eyes sparkled with joy. Now he just needed to confirm the butterfly pattern. Just check the pelvis now...
Just as he was thinking that, he tried to get up but hesitated.
...But why is he on top of me?"
****
Here, Grayson only wanted to check the mark, not to have sex while dane's in heat. But Dane jumped and forced him. Why do some readers defend Dane and says Grayson was the rapist by locking them up?
Novel version ch26
"W-wait, wait a minute! What are you doing?"
As he frantically shouted and grabbed his pants, Dane raised his head. At the sight of him glaring with bloodshot eyes while taking rough breaths, Greyson was momentarily startled and flinched. Dane sneered lowly between gasping breaths and said.
"Pretty one, don't be a bother and stay still. It'll be over soon."
"What?"
Before he could understand, Dane strongly pulled on the pajamas that Greyson was clutching. With a ripping sound, the pajamas tore in two, and Greyson's face turned pale.
"Uwaaaaah!"
Greyson screamed in horror.What are you, what are you doing!"
Greyson stammered in protest, so flustered he could barely speak. Immediately, Dane covered his mouth with one hand.
"Shut up, my head is ringing."
Dane continued speaking to Greyson, who was rolling his eyes wide open.
"You were singing, saying you wanted to sleep with me. So let's do it. Right now."
He reached down and grabbed Greyson's penis. Then Dane said to the pale-faced Greyson.
"You just need to lie there. Try to get this limp dick of yours up, I'll just use this."
Under the palm covering his mouth, Greyson desperately shouted.
"Virginia! No!"
Dane roughly fondled him below, but his unusually large penis, taking after his father, remained submissively lowered with no response. Dane frowned and glared at Greyson.
"What are you doing, get it up quickly."
He shook the penis in his hand demonstratively, but Greyson stubbornly refused to yield. Instead, he knocked away the hand covering his mouth and urgently escaped from under Dane, shouting.
"This is rape, it's rape!"
Haa, Dane ran his fingers through his hair and sighed with irritation. The pheromones spreading from his entire body became even more intense. For a moment, Greyson flinched and froze.
"Pretty one, don't you think you should have at least one use besides your face?"
He smiled with a twisted mouth, but it didn't look pleasant at all. Rather, at the appearance of him trying to contain his anger, Greyson's heart sank.
"Wait, wai..."
He tried to stop him by extending one hand forward, but Dane violently knocked it away and grabbed Greyson's collar, mercilessly throwing him onto the bed. Just as Greyson, who had tumbled down, was about to get up, Dane pounced on him from behind. Then, surprisingly, he felt an unfamiliar sensation on his buttocks. At that moment, Greyson was horrified.
"Wait, wait a minute! Stop!"
Greyson shouted, shaking his entire body. His whole body turned cold with fear that he might really be violated. This was the most terrifying experience he had ever had. He lost his reason and swung his elbow with all his might. And it hit Dane's temple squarely.
"Damn it...!"
Dane cursed and backed away. Thanks to that, Greyson escaped the moment of crisis. Th-that was close...
"Calm down, let's talk first. You're too excited right now."
Greyson said as he quickly sat up and retreated. But those words were like pouring oil on fire. Dane, who had been holding his forehead with his head down, slowly removed his hand. When he raised his gaze, he already seemed to have no intention of listening to Greyson's words.
...Huh.
Suddenly, an enormous amount of pheromones enveloped his entire body. In an instant, his vision blurred, and vague memories of the past resurfaced. Was he going to faint again like this?
He is not unconscious, not delirious, not mindless and uncontrollable. Looking for excuses for rape is disgusting, just because they are an omega or a bottom. Or because the victim enjoyed it in the end after being FORCED into rut. It's like an alpha forcing heat into an omega, but with the alpha knowing what he's doing.
"Pretty one, don't you think you should have at least one use besides your face?"
Pretty much sums up that he's aware he is about to rape the person he hates, but still did it
Yeah thats why dane was always going to be morally gray abd not a complete green flag. Thats why he can stay in a relationship with grayson dven tho graysons effed up in the head and has done some shit in his life. Tho yes ofc its not justifiable.
Why are artists scared to portray an omega raping an alpha? In the novel, it was uncomfortable to read, it's clearly non-con. It's why readers have double standards here and they're celebrating a rape. I want dominant omegas both in and out of bed but not rapist omegas for sure
talking about the first part of the scene btw
I remember when Dane smashed the bottle in his head, thats when I started to dislike his personality. If he's the alpha here, he was cursed out already. He did it without hesitation so he'll do it even if it's another person. I expected them to show the action of actually hitting his head but the manhwa toned it down.
As a novel reader, idk which is longer: the wait until the season 2 or his redemption arc
It wouldn't take several years hopefully
Is the redemption arc satisfying? And what chapter in the novelib does the redemption arc start? Thanks in advance^^
Oh and what chapter in the novel is the chapter from 36 from the manhwa? Thanks smmm T^T
I'd say the longest I've read of an arc. Idk since it's been long since I've read it. Around half of the story or more
There is no redemption ark. ML didn’t lose anything or suffered anything. He was just “I miss him” and that’s it. Bastard got away with everything
Emotional and mental suffering is suffering. Not everything is tangible. You go to the novel reviews and readers also said it's also the longest redemption they've read.
Um actually i finished the novel alr. Also Yes but its not a redemption imho tho, despite everything he still act like an asshole. He couldve be honest with mc insted covering lies with lies. But the onlu thing he did tell mc the truth is the cctv, he only said sorry and ily at the end of the main chapter fyi redemption alone means “ the act of buying back, saving, or freeing something from debt, evil, or a bad situation by paying a price or making up for a fault” but he did none of those things.. he’s suffering bc his own fault. Its not the redemption arc that is long but the climax of the story. The mc only got saved by his stepfather (forgot his name) the ml did absolutely nothing but destruction towards mc
Im up for discussion so lets all be rational, last time i was arguing with some stupid fuck called ml being a greenflag when the ml himself blantantly rape mc. How low the bar can get? Tsktsk yaoi manga readers…
It was not suffering. Mental suffering is when you get depression or at least lose some sleep. Or appetite. That guy didn’t suffer or lose anything. Unless of course your bar is so low and you are reading the novel just to get your kink out off MC suffering. Which I completely understand but let’s not try to invent the stuff which is not there.
Maybe we have different interpretations for redemption. Others would view it by taking the meaning straightforwardly, while others will take regret as redemption. This is why I mention the mental and emotional suffering. I also cursed the ml without fail until close to the end, but I think I would also categorize what happened to him as "paying a price" and his actions til the end counts as "making up for a fault". Since I also said from above that not all things are tangible and can be seen, sometimes the most destructive way of redemption also comes from inside or from the mind.
So I will stand with the other novel readers saying this is the longest redemption arc they've read.
I also liked the way the author developed such scum of a character into how he became until the end of the story.
There is no right or wrong with how we view redemption. I only wanted to say how it was seen from mine and the others.
Respectfully, you don't have the right to assume how I weigh my standard, and how I see the mc's suffering with just how I broaden my perception of seeing ways of redemption.
Regarding the mental suffering I've mentioned, do people need clinical diagnosis to prove someone's mental state? If that's what you needed, then we have no way to find out. But in my view, which you cannot label as right or wrong (like how I don't say you're wrong), I am just stating that people have different ways to redeem themselves. Just how you don't see it as such, me and the other readers saw it as redemption. As what I've said from above, regret by mental and emotional suffering is also a way to paying a price, aside from actions seen from outside. We don't have to fight which is right. It's just how people sees things differently.
Wait, I think since you only mention the main story, you haven't read the side stories yet? Coz thats the reason it was labeled by readers as longest redemption.
I did read the side story^^, but for me personally it’s just another episode of sehwa’s that shows his stockholm syndrome (it’s fine if u have a different opinion) so it doesn’t count. In the side story sehwa said he want another child right? And the ml was hestitated@first. But hey thanks for discussing with me!!
Oh forgot to mention. imo It doesn’t count bc everything was resolved in the side story , to me redemption is something u have to fix before the problem was fixed@ the first place
Oh we definitely have different views here! For me, redemption can go on even after problems are solved. I just want the person who wronged me to continuously pay back to me with their good deeds lol for a lifetime even if they've done worse. So tajeong's actions for years in the side stories are welcomed to me as his way of redemption
I also want them to constantly apologize and always think of their past mistakes. Because as I said, mental suffering is worse. Serves them lol I am petty but I deserve to act petty if they've wronged me. Guess people are different in accepting redeeming actions.
So, what kind of suffering did he went through? List them all. Because I'm pretty sure that bitch put Ukr thru literal hell. Physically and MENTALLY. Let's jear out how you he suffered worse than Uke.
With all due disrespect, you do have a very very VERY low standard. Even Dante couldn't reach there.
I only learned today that zig had an interview wherein she told how to read this series in order. That Lick Me if you can must be before this. Anyone who knows the order the author said?
Tbf I think lick me if you can could be your first option because it gives context to the miller's parents Ashley and koi, but the other stories could be read differently, my suggestion would be to read kmiyc before this one, and once you've read this one you can read run away if you can (I don't really recall if that's what Nathaniel's story was called but it's the next one to desire me) then you can read deflower me if you can but it's not finished yet I think. My only one suggestion would be to not read eat me up if you can, that's the Miller's grandaddies story which is actually very messed up because of Dominic Miller (Grayson's grandpa) let's say it's very much criminal, lmao.
Oh I'm already done with kiss and desire novels and in the middle of finishing lick so I kinda understand that lmiyc shouldve been the first.
But I have no plans to read emuiyc. I've already read a lot of spoilers about it
Yeah reading lmiyc before this is good without leaving the side stories tbh
True, I haven't reach it yet but apparently thats where ashley taught the children to extract pheromones by attending those parties and nathaniel was only 10
Yep, and they never mentioned this part and always say tht children were psychos. And it was so funny i saw someone sayin on insta that Nathaniel wanted to go to orgy parties
I hate it when people acts like they know everything even though they are not sure, then still spreads it.. but the worse is when they still argue when you correct them
I like this part too. It says something about the people around Grayson.
Look at that, love really does make people happy.
Grayson smiled faintly as he thought to himself that his belief hadn't been wrong. Dane may have laughed off love and denied it, but that was simply his arrogance. Love exists. It's right there, in the eyes of that man.
Sadly, Grayson had never met such a counterpart despite desperately searching for fate. Every time he dared to hope, he was disappointed, only to turn that disappointment into a new hope.
He had never found that kind of affection in the eyes of anyone who looked at him. What on earth did that feel like? Grayson longed to know. How unfair it was that something so clearly existed, yet he couldn't find it.
He sighed and emptied his wine glass.
"He had never found that kind of affection in the eyes of anyone who looked at him."
Novel version ch20
"Hey, how about we go to my place for another drink?"
With his unclear pronunciation, Grayson frowned, but Dane's reaction was different.
"Why not?"
Smiling faintly, Dane's response caused George to jump up excitedly and shout.
"Really?"
"Weren't you drunk?"
Unlike before, George spoke with a clear
voice and focused eyes, and Grayson couldn't help but ask, surprised.
George, startled again, stammered in
embarrassment.
"I... I sobered up quickly..."
Dane responded casually.
"Good. I don't sleep with drunk people."
George's eyes grew even wider, and Grayson looked at Dane with similar widened eyes.
Dane, still facing George, asked.
"Is your bed big?"
George, his eyes lighting up, eagerly
answered in an excited voice as if he'd been waiting for the question.
"Of course, it's huge! It's big enough for the two of us to roll around in! Ha, how about you come and see for yourself? Then you'll know for sure! My house is just a short distance from here, you know that, right? It's right over there..."
With his quick and urgent exclamations, Dane casually responded.
"It doesn't matter if it's small. The smaller, the better, right? I can go deeper."
It was an incredibly blunt statement, but George didn't feel the slightest bit
embarrassed. If anything, he seemed pleased
and, with a grin, asked.
"The bathtub is really small, though, what if we got in there together?"
"Not a bad idea."
Dane readily accepted the question, and George, breathless with excitement, jumped into the car. Grayson, once again shocked by how perfectly fine George was—when just moments ago, he had been struggling to walk -couldn't help but be dumbfounded.
"You're telling me that guy's going to bed with him?"
Grayson asked from behind as Dane was about to walk towards the driver's seat. Dane turned and replied.
"Why, is that so hard to believe? Are you wondering if I'm going to clean up for him or something?"
"Well, I'm pretty sure that's not it."
Grayson took a step back, still flustered. The situation unfolding before him was nothing like he had imagined.
"Weren't you a beta?"
"Yeah, I am."
Dane answered nonchalantly, but Grayson's confusion only grew.
"So you're sleeping with a man?"
Sleeping with someone of the same gender was something that usually happened when their biological traits were different, like when an omega slept with a beta or alpha. But the idea of a beta sleeping with another beta, or an alpha with an alpha-it didn't make sense. Yet, Dane Striker before him seemed unaffected by any of these considerations.
"If I want to sleep with someone, I sleep with them. What does their biology have to do with it? I didn't know you were so particular when it came to your bedmates?"
His words implied that not only did he disregard biological traits, but gender as well. How wild was this guy?
On top of that, Dane added this advice:
"You should love everyone, embrace the spirit of universal love."
"Heh."
Grayson couldn't help but let out a hollow laugh.
"Did you know him before?"
"No, I met him when the fire happened, and this is the second time."
This made Grayson even more confused. A beta didn't need to release pheromones, so why would he sleep with someone he'd only met twice? And to do it so casually, without a second thought? Grayson still couldn't understand the situation, but Dane had no intention of explaining himself. Why should he?
Grayson, even though he already knew the answer, couldn't suppress his curiosity. There was only one reason left.
"I never thought he'd be your type. Don't tell me you have no preferences at all?"
"Of course, I have my standards."
Dane replied lightly, but for Grayson, this only added to the confusion.
"Really? You came here to hook up with him? From the start?"
With that sucker? Grayson kept asking to make sure, and Dane, smirking, replied.
"Then why do you think I came here for lunch? Think, if you have a brain."
Dane tapped his second finger on his head as if to emphasize his point, adding with disdain.
"I came here to eat George, you idiot."
Grayson was left speechless, his mind boggled. He had never been this lost for words. What on earth was happening?
But standing there dumbfounded wasn't an option. Seeing that Dane was about to leave, Grayson quickly called out.
"Wait a second."
Dane paused and turned, his brows furrowed in irritation. This might be his last chance, so Grayson hastily spoke. What came out next was something he hadn't expected either.
"How about the three of us?"
A cold silence fell over the parking lot.
Dane said nothing, his expression showing clear disgust, which was more than enough to reveal his feelings without any words.
"What the hell is that supposed to mean?"
Dane asked, his voice raised slightly in disbelief. Naturally, Grayson was just as perplexed by what he'd said. But this moment of confusion didn't last long. It had been a sudden idea, but wasn't it actually a good one?
"I'm not into suckers, but you are. So how about the three of us?"
Grayson regained his usual calm and added leisurely.
"It's about time to release some pheromones anyway."
Of course, the latter part was just his own situation, but he couldn't come up with any better reason for all three of them to sleep together. That was what Grayson thought, but Dane didn't share his view.
"Since you asked about my preferences, I'll tell you."
Dane gave Grayson a meaningful look, scanning him from head to toe, and frowned slightly.
"I prefer someone smaller than me. You're too big for cuddling."
Grayson, pointing out Dane's biological limitations, actually seemed pleased by this and answered with a grin.
"Oh, we're alike in that. I like someone smaller too. Like you."
"Hahahaha."
Grayson placed his hand near Dane's head to demonstrate the height difference, then brought it back to his own head with a playful gesture. Dane smirked and laughed loudly, clearly enjoying the moment. Instead of answering, he raised his third finger and got into the car. By that time, George, who had been waiting in the passenger seat, asked Dane.
"Are you really just going to leave it like this? Just leave that guy?"
"He'll manage."
Dane started the car and said.
"I hate being bothered."
"Don't hassle me."
...Huh?
Grayson, who had been standing there until then, suddenly snapped out of his trance. It was right after that Dane drove off with George, leaving Grayson alone in the parking lot, frozen in disbelief.
Do you have the link to the novel,pls?
Raw legal on ridibooks, english fantrans here:
https://www.novelupdates.com/series/desire-me-if-you-can/?pg=3#myTable
create an account there, click a chapter by novelingua, its on page 3. They have correct use of pronouns, better trans
Thank u sooooo much my dear
I've found a reincarnation au on ao3
It will be my heal for the deep wound this left me. You guys should check it if you can't move on like me. I looked there first after finishing this bc I can't continue living knowing this is how it ends for them
share the link to the fic plz ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
thank you <3
He is very much aware while having strength even in heat. Idk why the adaptation didn't show it properly
"Pretty one, don't be a bother and stay still. It'll be over soon."
"Shut up, my head is ringing."
"You were singing, saying you wanted to sleep with me. So let's do it. Right now."
"You just need to lie there. Try to get this limp dick of yours up, I'll just use this."
"What are you doing, get it up quickly."
"Pretty one, don't you think you should have at least one use besides your face?"
"I'll be the one to insert, okay?"
Grayson's replies:
"W-wait, wait a minute! What are you doing?"
"What are you, what are you doing!"
"This is rape, it's rape!"
"Wait, wait a minute! Stop!"
"Calm down, let's talk first. You're too excited right now."
"I said no, you can't rape me! Front or back, it's absolutely not allowed without my consent! So stop this pheromone now!"
"No...!"
The dialogues will change as the official translations comes out (because I have see it chance for other chapters to words or dialogues that make more sense of the situation) so we just have to wait