Jellylicious

Please give me spoilers. Does the mc and the secretary have sex? And does the ml know?

this must be rage bait… ain’t no way the only problem the main lead has is being too dumb in love for not ditching who doesn’t deserve him. mc’s a victim sure but he’s also someone who keeps beating the ml for everything and not hear him out or believe him but he is still okay to hear that criminal of a secretary out and bandage him up after all that sh!t show. we don’t need to read korean to see what’s happening in the raw’s lol. mc was still able to pity and bandage the secretary, that’s why people are angry. wasn’t the mc supposed to not like alphas? look at where he is now: probably pregnant with a rap!st alpha baby. yeah, no. disgusting the way this story is going. main lead is too good for this.

So they did have sex?

the secretary raped the mc after using some drugs and mc got his heat. it wasn’t consensual. the ml went there to protect the mc but it was too late and we just see ml calling the mc and mc scared to let ml see what happened and then season 1 ended lol

You have got to be kidding me......................

Wow I'm lost for words. Huge disappointment.

bruh... wdym we don't need context to make judgement? whether MC knows if the secretary drugged him or not makes the BIGGEST difference. If he doesn't know he was drugged, that means he might've thought his heat came naturally and his pheromones influenced secretary to have sex with him. I could see why he bandaged the secretary up if he thought HE was at least partially responsible for the incident that happened because of HIS pheromones. Also idk where MC's ever abusive of ML?? Did we read the same story??? Other than a lil bantering and rough playing I would say MC is pretty soft to the people he cares about, although his cold exterior might mask that sometimes. Let's not forget he saved ML's LIFE. Even ML himself admits that MC lets him get away with EVERYTHING. I would be on your side 1000% if MC forgives the secretary after he finds out he was drugged, but it's wayyy to early to make any conclusions.

ALSO the miscommunication is not from the MC. When did MC not hear ML out? MC straight up asked if ML would give up the fight for chairman with him and he gave a flat out no with NO explanation. NO "I have to do this because of our bet". NO "I'm doing this for us to be together". What is the MC supposed to think? Yea lemme give my competition an even greater advantage by having his baby, fuck my dream, goals, and aspiration. What pisses me off is that ML KNOWS how much this position means to the MC and the insecurity of being beat out by an alpha just because they're alpha. Him becoming chairman would be the biggest FUCK YOU to the MC. Not sure how ML is better than the MC if he's ok with causing so much distress to the person he claims to love. He's literally love-rotted delulu idiot and yall are eating it up for what? Cause he's romantic? What's the point if he can't help the person he loves in any meaningful way?

Why am I getting the sense that you're blaming the MC if he ends up with a rap!st alpha baby??? How is any of this his fault other than trusting the person that thought was loyal to him?

even if mc is a victim as said before he still kept seeing that disgusting piece of sh!t of a secretary even after all the warnings from the main lead. he can trust that bastard (your words) but not the main lead, so cute lol. also you saying that it’s okay for the mc to bandage and be there with the secretary for who knows how many minutes/hours after that disgraceful act (it was a lot of time because Hyeondo had time to get there) as calm as ever, dressing himself and ready to hear him out because maybe he thinks he’s responsible because of the heat, no that’s not how it works and you’re just blind. so he can hear the secretary out but not Hyeondo?
ml confessed, always treaded the mc well all that just to be taken as a fool and a joke (and beaten up but i guess for you that doesn’t matter).
you don’t need to worry because mc will get to be to be the chairman just as you want, i just don’t think it’ll be worth in the end but hey that’s what you want i guess.
also you calling the ml a love-rotten delulu idiot (at least he’s not a rap!st and respects whom he loves) when he’s just a fool in love with a big heart and then asking why we eat it out? maybe because he’s still the best character on this story and almost everyone agrees. you can just hate the main lead and go.
stay tuned to see the amazing cliché of the mc forgiving the secretary because he will think the baby will be his and not from the one who loved him from 10 years. bravo, amazing plot
i hope you’re happy with how this turned out. bye.

i wish i was but chapter 31 is there… the author is getting eaten alive on their X account, even Koreans are angry with how this went. author’s first work and then this happens. not a good idea at all. people are not supporting them anymore and season 2 will probably be a flop

this story was so good as it was, but at the end of the day they will let that disgusting thing slide. what’s worse in all this is that there’s no hashtags in the korean platforms warning for this and for a possible love triangle but they said this was planned since the beginning. there’s not even a trigger warning for that chapter even when we can all see the dubcon. it was awful. for the author it wasn’t that bad i guess. the secretary is the second main lead in their mind so this will be all forgiven and who knows if they don’t make them end up together because of the possibility of a baby be from the rap!st. just horrible.

Nah I know what happened in the latest raw chapters. I've seen the chapter but just can't believe why the OP would think we wouldn't have beef with the MC after what just happened. Look, the MC after everything that has happened has always showed more concern and trust for the secretary than towards the ML who he has known for 10 freaking years. I know that he saved his life year ago and it's something to swoon over but let's be honest, if it was the ML that did what the secretary just did, he would have gone more ballistic than this and even say the ML was trying to baby trap him. The secretary had previously almost assaulted this man and that didn't give this idiot any sign that this man is volatile and can do anything if not in his right senses. That didn't give him any thoughts of I don't know LIVING SOMEWHERE ELSE?!! Even after he was almost assaulted, he still kept living with him. He spent his heat with the ML and left not a moment too soon because of "oh the secretary must be waiting for me back at home. He must be lonely." Do you know how insulting it was for the ML when the man he loves, who just spent his heat with him is leaving immediately to go be with another alpha who lives together with him?? Who he knows has feelings for the MC? Why didn't he question why his heat came back after he just spent it with the ML? He has been spending it with the ML all these years and nothing like this have ever happened. This idiot can't put two and two together about why his heat came back after drinking the water the secretary gave him?? This man is always praised for being smart and intelligent but he always loses his marbles when it comes to the secretary. So no I don't like victim blaming but the MC saw all the signs but choose to ignore them all. The only blame the ML had was lack of communication. That's it. He's not a rapist. Not a schemer or deceiver like that fuckface.

Yeah ml at least is not a freaking rapist. Tbh the secretary thinks he is some kind and good human being and then he does this? I'm lost of words tbh. This kind of act is very weird for the secretary also if he did this willingly. I'm very disappointed. I thought this omegaverse will be different and there will be no rape like all the others. But here we are with the most disgusting rape scene. Mc kind of betrayed the ml also. How can be live with another alpha? I used to like him a lot but now I kind of hate with how he is treating the ml who deserves much better than this.

I know of another manhwa where after the ML and the MC had sex together, the ML's friend called him and he immediately left the MC to go see the friend. Everyone was pissed in the comments saying the friend has to be a fuck buddy cause why did he leave the MC alone afterwards to go and see him. But here the MC is doing the exact same thing and the secretary didn't even have to call him for him to ditch the ML and go back to him. No matter what, the readers always have a less favorable attitude towards MLs than MC's when they do the same thing. Like after every mistakes and contradiction the MC of his manhwa has done, this OP still finds a way to make it the ML's fault when the only thing he has ever did wrong was lack of communication and loving and devoting his entire life to the MC

Yeah I know. Most people are much more lenient to the mcs always. Even if they are promiscuous they brush it of as a "power bottom" but if the ball is in the other court than the ml is a red flag and BLA BLA BLA. After all the things the alpha did he didn't deserve this mistreatment. The omega is basically insulting the ml's feelings. I didn't expect from this. I feel bad for the ml. He deserves so much better. My mood is literally spoiled because of this trash.

yeah i was rereading the chapter where the mc left the ml after they passed mc’s rut together and the way the mc’s behaved was so not it. he was super cold to the ml, left not saying that much and ignored the breakfast the ml made for him just because the poor disgusting secretary was sad because the mc didn’t didn’t eat pizza with him. wtf is that bullshit. the way the main lead was also so sad and thinking that the mc doesn’t like him that much and maybe he mad some mistake, he was very hurt. i don’t judge him because if i had passed the night with someone i love so much for such a long time just for the other to ditch me like i don’t matter i would also think that that person doesn’t like me either. mc left the ml just like that, like the ml is just an object to be used when heats happen. horrible. atp maybe the mc just likes the secretary more because ain’t no way the author make it seems like mc likes ml and then he does all this shit to him who only treated him with respect and love all this time.
i saw there’s somehow a regret tag but i’m not even sure if it’s for the mc or for the ml who didn’t even do anything bad to be regretful besides not communicating better. now he’ll be even more hurt because we know the author is going to put some “who’s the daddy” drama but i hope Hyeondo leaves the mc by then. he doesn’t need any of this.
the op that wrote all that about the ml just doesn’t care tho and is just a ml hater.

this is just bad writing. mc is not written well and is full of contradictions. watch mc probably defend that rapist of a secretary next chapter and hurt the ml even more

the mc is raped by his secretary

Yeah for sure that's going to happen. But if it was the ml then he would have cut ties with him already. It's soooo stupid. Ml deserves better and I hope that he lets go of him. The mc should regret and know what he lost.

First of all, the ML constantly remembers the bet because his life revolves around the MC. ..

He remembers everything that happened between them and clings to the bet as his only hope to win the MC’s heart. Cause
For ten years, the MC treated the ML selfishly, ignoring his feelings, while the ML stayed loyal and devoted.

If the MC had shown him even a little bit of love, he wouldn't have clung to that (silly and stupid bet, as you say)

Meanwhile, the MC’s priority has always been the company first, and his Alpha friend last. ..(If it was a priority in the first place)
So he tries to compete for it fairly because he think it’s the only way to win him...

but here’s the contradiction:
the MC doesn’t want to be underestimated, yet wants the Alpha to give up everything for him...

The shares and position weren’t gifts for being Alpha—they were earned by the ML’s hard work, which the MC fully knows...

The lack of communication is the main cause of their conflict, but not the ML’s fault for the MC’s stupidity, contradictions, and misplaced trust...
These contradictions make him impossible to sympathize with:

He hates all Alphas, yet trusts the secretary who assaulted him.
While after every heat cycle with the ML, he treats him as nothing and prioritizes only his own feelings...

And he completely ignores the ML’s loyalty and devotion.. and he didn't believe anything he said anyway..

He expects him to sacrifice everything while he keeps the company as his sole focus...

All of this makes the MC infuriating for me ..

Regarding the rape scene: it doesn’t matter what anyone says about whether he seemed to enjoy it or didn’t fight the secretary hard enough. ..
That was rape, clear and simple, and the MC didn’t consent—even if the author didn’t provide a warning...
( i don't know why )..

What matters here is showing the MC’s awful contradictions: trusting the bastard secretary and staying with him despite past harassment...

After the rape, it’s treated like nothing unusual. ..
So what is this? Treating someone who truly loves you with cruelty and neglect, while the rapist is treated differently?

And it’s obvious that he knows the water was the problem. You can see it from the mc’s reaction when that secretary said he would bring Heat inhibitor. So the situation must have become clear to him by then—unless his head is just for decoration.

I’m certain in the upcoming chapters we’ll see the MC forgive that bastard and stand against the ML, prevent him from hurting the secretary ...
since the “who is the daddy” drama is coming
And because the ML is clearly not his priority..and I will never be convinced that he actually loves him...
At most, it’s just attachment built over years of familiarity.
That would also explain why he didn’t want the ML to see him in that state.
In the end, no one like hurting their loyal dog..

So just stay with the secretary and leave the ML alone. End of story...

But I'm not the author to decide... If I were, I would have ended the story with their complete separation.

Nah I just realized something right now. Not only is the MC full of contradictions but he's also a flat out horrible human being. He has known the ML since they were kids. Kids! He has been using this man for his heat periods for so long. The ML also has a well off family from what I can see. Not to the MC's status but close. But you're telling me that the ML never thought to go out there and make something of himself because of his love for the MC? All this adoration and devotion, love and prospects are all for the MC. He's working in his company when he could so easily start up his own and be successful because he wants to be near the MC and help him in anyway he can. This man could be a literal CEO on his own but he's here working as the MC's subordinate for so many years because he is crazy over him. And after years of being fuck buddies, he still haven't received any signal or label on their relationship. Imagine being used and stuck in this limbo of a relationship for 10 whole years. But whenever MC is about to go into heat or just blow off some steam, he goes and uses the ML for his pleasure and turns around to distrust and undermine his feelings. Imagine being friends since they were kids and can't even trust him after all these years even though he has given you no reason for such distrust. And let's not talk about the fact that ML didn't agree to give up his entire connection and shares in the company for him cause why should he? Even though he does that, the other shareholders would not change their behavior towards the MC because he wouldn't have won those shares through hard work. It would be because hyeondo gave it to him. They might even say that he as an Omega got those shares from hyeondo because he slept with him. That's why hyeondo said no. Because he knows that giving it up willingly wouldn't change the shareholders bias. But winning through hardwork and strength is what the MC needs and what is best for him in the company

You summed it up PERFECTLY. Mc literally treats ml as trash and a sex toy nothing more nothing less.

Literally. At this point the story should have been like that Hyeondo left Yuhyeon and made a big company for himself as that was biggest problem. And just leave him to rot with his beloved trusted secretary piece of shit. He doesn't deserve Hyeondo's love and devotion. Nothing matters to him than his company and his fragile ego.

KIDS?? Holy shit.

But he bandaged his rapist, whether his pheremones played a role or not. I don’t care. He bandaged an alpha, it goes against everything he fought against. Ugh, while I’m not blaming for what he went through, I am very annoyed and disappointed with this outcome.

Author definitely played into the “rape trend”. Many Korean fujoshis encourage it too, not all, but I have seen many, I guess the pressure got to the author. Because earlier it was going well, decent, and boom, rape. I never thought author would actually go through it.

That's exactly what will happen. The ML will probably confront the secretary and the MC will of course defend his literal rapist. He's definitely gonna defend this asshole in front of the ML saying it wasn't his fault and that it's because of his heat bla bla bla. He might even fight with the ML if things get physical. Imagine siding with your rapist and getting physical with the man who would lay his life and devot his very being for you. What kind of shitty piece of work did I waste my time with??

Not yall making me google translate the raw chapters so I can actually have an unbiased view of what happened. I'm sure I'm still missing some things due to mistranslation but here are my takes.

First, I want to make it clear that I do not even recognize the secretary as a possible love interest (aka why I never really talked about him in comparison with the ML). Although it seems like he didn't actually intended to actually go through with the drugging, he still raped the MC and MC clearly sees him as nothing more than a loyal subordinate and maybe a little brother figure. So do not make it seem like I prefer him over the ML for ANY reason. I recognize that ML loves MC and has good intentions, I just feel like he's a weaker communicator of the 2 so I blame him more for all the miscommunications. That's all.

Second, I see a lot of ppl's biggest gripe is with the MC 'using' the ML while ML is just endlessly sacrificing. I do not feel that way at all. Let's not forget that ML is the one that brought up the idea of a 'pheromone shower' and persuaded MC to use him for his heat. Idk if any of you are reading "You are my world" but the ML there (which many criticizes for getting MC dependent on him) is giving me the same energy as this ML. Yes, he wants to help MC through his heat, but let's also recognize that it came from his selfish desire of wanting to monopolize the MC and getting to be intimate with the one he loves. MC is also helping ML with his rut, if anything, I feel like ML derive additional emotional value from their arrangement. Like the MC in "You are my world", this MC also sees what they do as almost transactional (because this whole arrangement is proposed to them in this way). Yes it's sad to see ML heartbroken over his feelings not being reciprocated but the MC does not owe ML anything. Also in one of the raw chapters, MC literally expressed wanting to use suppressors for his heat and ML is the one who stuck his hand down the MC's pants. Like cmon guys you're acting like MC is treating ML as a s*x doll to use and throw away but ML initiates like 90% of it and he fking loves it.

Third, some of you guys claim that ML also makes sacrifices in the company to support MC. While it's true that ML is helping the company, the company is not yet MC's. Any achievements ML makes only further strengthens him as a competitor against MC, so what does MC have to be thankful for? Again, he has no idea that ML wants to do it for him because ML makes no effort to communicate that whatsoever. MC has always been direct about what he wants and his feelings. His priority is the company and that's fine, sorry not everyone prioritizes romance in life. I don't know how many of you guys actually ever worked in the workforce but beyond abilities and competency (which we don't actually have any idea about with MC and ML, they're probably both very competent), there are other factors that give people unfair edge. Like gender and attractiveness for example (like omega/alpha status). ML is technically supposed to be MC's subordinate. Well, how would you feel if you're a female in the workplace (I'm equating this with being omega due to facing similar societal prejudices) due for a promotion but your subordinate is being considered for that promotion over you just because they're a charming male? And suddenly you're given a condition that requires you to be preggo? That becomes further ammo against you for that promotion because you might take maternity leave so you're deemed unfit for it. Wouldn't you be ANGRY? Feel UNFAIR? You ask your male subordinate (who likely got the position through you bc you're friends and your dad owns the company) if he can yield that position because you ARE more deserving of it (let's not forget the company is MC's dad's and he has the intention of passing it to the MC), and he's like "No. But let's continue to get down because only I can scratch your sexual itch, and you can't have sex with other ppl, and I love you, let's be together, have my baby, leave that promotion to me". Unless you're head over heels in love with him and ok with giving up everything you've worked for and be a house-wife, you would be stupid to give in. The unfortunate truth is that MC can't reciprocate ML's feelings right now and that's ok. Again, he doesn't OWE ML ANYTHING. I think many of you are mad because MC is not expressing feelings to ML in the way that YOU guys want.

Fourth, some of you are saying MC is treating subordinate better than ML. First of all, one is an employee, one is a competitor. One is working FOR you, one is working AGAINST you. Who would you trust? Many of you bring up how long MC has been friends with ML and should trust him but through recency bias, MC has probably gotten more direct help from the secretary (whose whole job is to help him and is on his payroll) in recent years than the person relentlessly fighting him for his 'promotion'. Yes, MC shouldn't have stayed at the secretary's place after the first incident. But he handled that situation by overpowering the secretary and probably thought he could do the same this time. He doesn't know the secretary has feelings for him, he also never consented to having sex with the secretary EVER, yet always let ML push him into sex, so I don't see the favoritism you guys are talking about there. It's clear that MC sees secretary as a younger brother, thus why he never once thought of him as a baby daddy candidate. ML is more his equal, and with how close they used to be, I'm sure ML's decision to fight for MC's father's company hurts, thus why he acted out more with the ML. Also name ONE panel where MC was abusive with the ML? He's too soft to even kick the ML out of his house when ML expressed he wanted to stay. He changes his dinner plans immediately when ML asked to grab dinner. Some people expresses affection through actions, and I see that with the MC even though he's not screaming it from the rooftop.

Fifth, the rape. Many of you blame MC for not acting in a more extreme manner. Yes, I now know that MC knows that there was heat inducer in the water, but MC also knows that the secretary didn't mean for him to drink it. Doesn't make it right and yea, I probably wouldn't have bandaged the secretary up after beating him up but I would want to hear a reason too. Everyone reacts differently to assault, many victims blame themselves and try to rationalize it so it hurts them less, we don't know MC's reasoning, either way I don't think this justifies hate. So please guys let's refrain from victim blaming. I'm almost certain that MC will continue to not entertain the secretary in any romantic capacity after this.

I don't hate the ML but let's admit that he has his own agenda that he pursues that counters the MC's agenda. Both are equally valid. I just feel like the cards were stacked against the MC to begin with (he's the omega, he's the one that has to carry a child, he's the one whose position is at risk) and ML's lack of communication exacerbate a lot of misunderstandings. Sure ML is lovey dovey and that's sweet and all but ultimately doesn't do anything to help MC with his list of problems. Yall are putting the burden of responding to ML's affection on him as well, when he just doesn't have to same level of love for him. You guys are making me feel like my takes are controversial but I really feel like I'm being pretty fair. What would you have done as the MC? Retaining the same motivations and information? How would you reconcile the fact that the person who professes love for you also won't stop threatening your inheritance? Wanting to play house even though you're stretching yourself thin, overworking yourself to try to overcome his inherent advantage?

Geez yall are making me write an essay, I don't even think I ever tried this hard in school...

Yes .... Exactly
The ML may be naive and hopelessly devoted, but at least he is consistent with his feelings...
His actions match what he says...

The MC, however, keeps sending completely contradictory signals.
As you said hrelies on the ML during every heat cycle, keeps him by his side for ten years, yet refuses to acknowledge his feelings or even trust him...
At some point that stops looking like confusion and starts looking like pure exploitation...

And MC refuses to acknowledge that the ML’s feelings are real, even though he has stayed by his side all this time through everything… Or maybe he simply doesn’t care. All he cares about is the company anyway

What makes it worse is that he seems more willing to trust a secretary who already crossed the line once than someone who has been loyal to him his entire life...
That kind of logic is honestly hard to sympathize with...

And regarding the company situation, the ML refusing to hand everything over actually makes sense.

If he simply gave up his shares, as you said the shareholders would only use it against the MC and say he obtained power through favoritism rather than ability...

So ironically, the ML competing fairly might actually be the only way for the MC to gain real authority in the company...
Which makes the MC’s resentment toward him even more contradictory

That’s why I honestly don’t want them to end up together at all. .
I just can’t accept the MC no matter what he does or how much he regrets later.

So I feel like the author will probably try to make the MC look extremely pitiful, or turn the ML suddenly violent so readers start hating him and sympathizing with the MC instead...

But regardless of that, it’s pretty obvious what will happen.
The ML will never leave him...
He’ll probably keep acting like a doormat for the MC no matter what happens even if the MC ends up pregnant with someone else’s child...

That’s usually how these “devoted ،doormat ML” characters are written by authors like this.

If the author decides to make Hyeondo violent out of literally nowhere then I'll throw hands. It would be sooo out character and disappointing. Plus it will ruin the whole story for me. It had the potential for being one of the most beautiful nontoxic omegaverses but it ruined it with this rape cliche. Now-a-days it feels like rape is MUST in bls. Especially omegaverses.

Oh the author is most definitely gonna do something to butcher hyendo's character so as to make that rapist appeal more to the readers.

I feel like I'm being gaslit LOL you guys cannot be serious. This is becoming an echo chamber of ML wound-lickers that hallucinate plot lines to fit their narrative. Funny how you guys hate rape in bl but then spew victim-hating bullshit, it cannot be more ironic. You guys are making up your own stories now trying to justify his rape. It's so insane it's almost comical.
Also Hyeondo getting violent would be VERY in character and APPROPRIATE. Did we read the same story? Missed the parts where he was beating the hell out of people? Especially now that he knows that the secretary has the drug and most likely used it on the MC, he SHOULD be throwing hands and fucking him up. The lack of character understanding is mind-boggling. You guys just be saying anything.

I cant find their x account on the raws the koreans seemed to like it... i couldn’t find anyone hating on the author at all

Bro, you cannot be for fucking real.

Nope, absolutely not. The anger against Yuhyeon is absolutely justified. Because WHY THE FUCK would Yuhyeon stake the chairmanship position in the first place when he knows how badly he (Yuhyeon) wants it? Why stake your own inheritance and birthright? He could have given him any, any single ultimatum and Hyeondo would gladly do it just to have his hand. The only reason why he wants the position is because of the deal Yuhyeon made with him. He's not even fucking interested in the position. Dumbass MC.


Jinwon was already established as the alpha heir of Cheokwrong (or whatever they call that company) that Yuhyeon does business with. It was also implied that the company wants to own Yuhyeon's company.
So;
Plan A: Jinwon's father thinks the reason Jinwon defected is because working for Yuhyeon as a double agent and a spy that would gather and feed Intel to his own company. Which is why he's pissed on finding out that ain't happening.
Plan B: On discovering the deal the Chairman made with Yuhyeon, decides to make Yuhyeon their omega by getting him hitched to either Jinwon or himself. That is the reason why the father gave him the aphrodisiac, so Yuhyeon can become with Jinwon's kid, and so automatically, thereby getting the reins of Yuhyeon's company.
Yuhyeon knows this, he's not an idiot. Implied in his conversation with Jinwon. There's a reason why he took Jinwon in to rub it in the dad's face that he's using his heir as his lackey.

The only reason why Yuhyeon began to distance himself from Hyeondo was because his father (not Hyeondo himself) says he thought Yuhyeon and Hyeondo would mate which was why he gave him the ultimatum of having a child. Obviously, the dad is aware of Hyeondo's feelings, and is tired of the cat and mouse chase he thought the deal would make Yuhyeon mate with Hyeondo and he wins (he gets his grandbaby)

Annoyed at Hyeondo for what his daddy said, Yuhyeon decides not to stay at his house but rather to live with his alpha secretary (ok homie, you do you)

BUT from Yuhyeon's perspective of the aphrodisiac scene, he saw a glass of water prepared for him by Jinwon, drinks it, get drugged and raped. On what Earth did it not even register to Yuhyeon that Jinwon is trying to get his company through this? That his loyalty was all a fake and in reality, he was still loyal to his father's company? He bitches about Hyeondo wanting the company, but why didn't he question Jinwon's loyalty at this point?

His secretary who is the heir to his fierce rival company, and that same rival company wants to own/buy out his own company, suddenly drugs him and raped him? And he didn't even think "wait a second"?

At least Hyeondo was pretty much clear he wants to be the chairman (no shit), but for all Yuhyeon's mind, Jinwon is a scheming guy who made him trust him all these years just to make him let his guard down and, drugged him and rape him to get him pregnant just so he can get his company. But instead, he tells him "use a condom at least", hears him out, BANDAGED him and by the end, is so nonchalant about it. Why does he gets a pass and Hyeondo doesn't? Why does he gives Hyeondo so much flake but forgives Jinwon who for all he knows, is trying to get into his pants so HE can get his company. Which is the bigger betrayal?

So please

Thank you for this. Cause the OP has been pissing me off with what they've been saying. Talking about jinwon being a subordinate and hyeondo being a competitor. Like ok? So? Does being a subordinate mean having absolute loyalty for your employer?? He's the heir to his rival company!! He's a much bigger threat to him than hyeondo!! Why would he keep a man like that so close to you?!!! He could every easily steal company secrets. He could be a double agent!! Even if the MC did it as a fuck you to jinwon's father, that is still a big risk that a level headed chairman or an aspiring one should never do. Just because he's on his payroll?! He should trust an alpha?? The same man that said all alphas are the same?? That is said to not trust them?? He made an exception because he pays the guy?? Bffr

idk from where in the depth of hell you found this thread from more than 2 months ago... but ok I can see where you're coming from on some points.

1. Yes MC shouldn't have betted the position, that was stupid of him. But he was a kid at the time and kids are gonna do stupid things. He probably just wasn't interested in the ML at the time and brought up the most impossible thing he could think of to dissuade ML from pursuing him. But the only reason I don't hold it against him now is because he FORGOT. You can blame him for forgetting, but you can't blame him for making the choices he makes because he doesn't have the insight of knowledge. It's not rocket science to understand why he views/treats ML as an opp because that's all he knows and experiences. The onus falls on the ML just because he has the burden of knowledge. He knows the bet (obvi) so he's going after the position but he also knows that this is MC's life long dream. This bet was a double conundrum from the start but instead of negotiating the bet (or ever bring it up), the ML decided to prioritize what HE wants (winning the bet/getting the relationship) even if that means squashing MC's life long dream. idk if that's the type of partner you want, but i'd be fking pissed if my partner screwed over my dream to get with me.

2. Jinwon never presented himself as a threat to MC before the rape, and after rape MC cut off relationship with Jinwon. The end.

3. MC's dad does not know about the bet. He knows ML and MC both want the chairmanship and ML loves MC. He gave the ultimatum to force ML to make a decision between the MC and the position. That's why he never dictated that MC have a child with ML specifically, he just wants MC to have a child period. That puts pressure on the ML because he knows MC would never mate with ML if it gives ML more leverage to win the position, so he's basically saying "step down from the fight and have a child with MC OR watch MC have a child with another alpha". You're thinking purely from the perspective of 'aww but that's gonna hurt ML's feelings, that's sad bc ML loves MC' but MC is fighting for his life not to put himself in the position to give ML more advantage in the fight. Entire time he never rejected ML's advances btw and kept having sex with him, if anything I thought MC was too soft on the ML.

4. MC was too soft with Jinwon after rape I agree. He's just too soft in general imo so this is in line with his character. Yall act like he actually forgave Jinwon, but he made it pretty clear that he's done with him. Also you're saying as if MC knew Jinwon was going to rape him and allowed himself to get raped. Yes, in HINDSIGHT Jinwon is a fking piece of shit and MC shouldn't have trusted him, but he hasn't really had a reason to think Jinwon was going to do that to him UNTIL it happened. Also I'm not incapable of understanding that MC might think he's more responsible for it than he is (aka he drank the water when Jinwon told him not to) thus he might went easier on Jinwon because he didn't mean to commit to the scheme. idk why there's so little empathy and so much judgement for a rape victim. What's wrong with asking your perpetrator to put on a condom so you don't get impregnated from the rape? If I was being raped and couldn't escape the situation I'd also try to minimize damage by asking they "put on a condom at least"? You tell me what the right way for a rape victim to behave is.

5. He's not giving Jinwon a pass? He never entertained Jinwon as anything more than a subordinate and fired him after the transgression. He gives ML shit BECAUSE he cares more and expects more from him. He wants ML to be the baby dad and he wants ML to support him in his fight for the chairmanship. Is that really so hard to understand? He trusted the wrong person (Jinwon) partly because he was so cornered by the ML to put out and put down, he's the victim through and through. He trusted the wrong person, he was betrayed, and he got violated from it. But awww poor ML how dare someone hurts his feelings...

Do you have braincells? Yea I'd fking expect my subordinates to be loyal to me???? It's like saying "why the fuck do you expect a bodyguard to protect you just because you pay him??" Do you see how stupid that sounds? exactly. Also if Jinwon is a double agent, MC could sue him to oblivion and it'd be the easiest job in the world, corporate espionage is literally a crime LOL

There's nothing wrong with expecting loyalty from your subordinate BUT it's dumb as hell to think a subordinate closely related to the company that has had a feud with yours since forever could ever be truly loyal. Even jinwon's own father thought his own son was working as a double agent because of how absurd it is. No matter who hears about it, that's what they will think. It's why hyeondo was so against jinwon working so closely with the MC. Jinwoo's father kidnapped hyeondo and almost had them burnt alive!! Why would you trust his son?? And yes. Bodyguards can also betray you. There's no individual that isn't above betraying you. And just because you pay them doesn't mean they won't. Now, he didn't steal company secrets but what he did in my opinion is way worse

I have fingers to scroll, and found that shit.

First: How're bout don't bet your fucking inheritance for something so asinine if you're not willing to take the heat when it all comes down to it? They were teenagers not kids. They're not that stupid.


"MC's dad does not know about the bet. He knows ML and MC both want the chairmanship and ML loves MC. He gave the ultimatum to force ML to make a decision between the MC and the position. That's why he never dictated that MC have a child with ML specifically, he just wants MC to have a child period. That puts pressure on the ML because he knows MC would never mate with ML if it gives ML more leverage to win the position, so he's basically saying "step down from the fight and have a child with MC OR watch MC have a child with another alpha".


I don't know where on God's green earth you got this information from. The ultimatum was giving to MC, not ML. ML didn't even know until his subordinates told him and he came crashing into MC's office in episode 1 or 2 I think. I don't know if you forgot the plot but the meeting with MC's dad and ML implied that the father wanted ML and MC to mate and have children so he can get grandbabies; the father didn't know about the chairmanship issue until ML told him about it after the MC has stormed away in frustration simply because his dad admitted him giving the ultimatum was because he thought the MC and ML would mate and have babies.



"Jinwon never presented himself as a threat to MC before the rape, and after rape MC cut off relationship with Jinwon. The end."


You mean the time when Jinwon went into a rut and almost fucked the MC? The MC now knows that hey, he's living with an alpha, an alpha who can go into rut any time especially one that went into a triggered rut because he has feelings for him. But what bro to do? Easy. Continue leaving with him even after knowing this, when he could have easily stayed at a random hotel.


"Also I'm not incapable of understanding that MC might think he's more responsible for it than he is (aka he drank the water when Jinwon told him not to) thus he might went easier on Jinwon because he didn't mean to commit to the scheme."


Bro what?? He already drank the water before Jinwon freaked out and began muttering about suppressants causing him to know the glass of water had a omega inducer in it. Jinwon didn't ask him not to drink it, he only spoke after noticing the MC had drank it. The MC went into heat, told Jinwon to leave and Jinwon came closer and fucked him instead. So to recap: MC comes home, drinks a glass of water he found prepared for him, gets drugged, and gets raped.
At no point did MC feel suspicious about this turn of affair from his trusted secretary??


"What's wrong with asking your perpetrator to put on a condom so you don't get impregnated from the rape? If I was being raped and couldn't escape the situation I'd also try to minimize damage by asking they "put on a condom at least"?

Lol. Imagine being raped, and you turn around to face said rapist, and tell him to go and wear a condom before raping you. Do you see how that sounds?



"You tell me what the right way for a rape victim to behave is."

No, you tell me what rape victim defends their rapist?



Face it, Yuhyeon is a hypocrite.
You're talking about empathy towards rape victims, but here's the clincher: No one gives him shit because he was raped, but rather on the he approached being raped.

I've said it before, for all he knew, Jinwon had consciously drugged him, refused to leave when he begged him to and fucked him against his wishes or consent to get him pregnant.
My issue is the author could have written him actively being traumatized, hurt and betrayed by someone he trusted (an alpha who he knows his company actively wants his), who for all his knowledge, consciously drugged him against his will and wanted to get him pregnant, especially considering his aversion to alphas. But rather he's unfazed, calm, listen to the explanation and bandages his wounds that he caused, and turns around and defends him when confronted by Hyeondo.


Frankly speaking, I don't give two shits about Hyeondo nor do I really care about his feelings (bro has his own mental problems as it is) but rather HOW Yuhyeon who's been against alpha treated the whole rape thing as a normal Tuesday, that goes against character. That's it.

I already agreed that it was a stupid bet ok now what? Tell me what you think the solution is to someone having forgotten something? And let me guess, you remember every bet and promise you've made 10 years ago? Idk what you want the MC to do about something he doesn't remember... You know what? Maybe he DOES deserve to be raped.

"I don't know where on God's green earth you got this information from. The ultimatum was giving to MC, not ML. ML didn't even know until his subordinates told him and he came crashing into MC's office in episode 1 or 2 I think. I don't know if you forgot the plot but the meeting with MC's dad and ML implied that the father wanted ML and MC to mate and have children so he can get grandbabies; the father didn't know about the chairmanship issue until ML told him about it after the MC has stormed away in frustration simply because his dad admitted him giving the ultimatum was because he thought the MC and ML would mate and have babies."

Geez idk maybe I can read between the lines. What do you think it means when the chairman (MC's dad) asks ML "Is it that you really have an interest in being chairman?" When ML says "Yes, I do." Chairman says "HOW UNEXPECTED." Wow what do you think that means? Further in the convo, after chairman learns of the bet, he says to ML "You're usually pretty clever... But whenever my son is involved your IQ drops significantly..." hmm idk... sounds like even the Chairman thinks ML fighting MC for the position is kind of stupid even if because of the bet. Yes, he wants MC to have his grandchildren and he expected MC and ML to mate bc they're alrdy fucking and he knows ML loves MC, that's why he EXPECTED ML to drop out of the running for chairmanship, because both cannot exist at the same time.

"You mean the time when Jinwon went into a rut and almost fucked the MC? The MC now knows that hey, he's living with an alpha, an alpha who can go into rut any time especially one that went into a triggered rut because he has feelings for him. But what bro to do? Easy. Continue leaving with him even after knowing this, when he could have easily stayed at a random hotel."

The only thing MC is guilty of is being too trusting of Jinwon. Yes he jumped into the lion's den but he never viewed Jinwon as a lion. 1. MC didn't know Jinwon has feelings for him (aka didn't know Jinwon had motive) 2. MC was in control of that situation because he was able to reject Jinwon during his rut. (aka he didn't really see Jinwon as a threat) 3. He was under immense pressure from competing against an alpha and was overworked to high hell. The whole reason he moved in with Jinwon is because he knows ML will come find him at his place and disrupt his work and attention. Yes he made a bad judgement because his focus is 100% on work and the chairmanship. He COULDN'T have predicted what Jinwon was going to do, and it's not his fault that he was raped. So why are you angry at him? Because he had a lapse of judgement? You're right, I guess that DOES justify him being raped.

"Bro what?? He already drank the water before Jinwon freaked out and began muttering about suppressants causing him to know the glass of water had a omega inducer in it. Jinwon didn't ask him not to drink it, he only spoke after noticing the MC had drank it. The MC went into heat, told Jinwon to leave and Jinwon came closer and fucked him instead. So to recap: MC comes home, drinks a glass of water he found prepared for him, gets drugged, and gets raped.
At no point did MC feel suspicious about this turn of affair from his trusted secretary??"

I agree with the recap. Now tell me the part where MC is at fault. He shouldn't have drank the water? So you never drank water at your friend's place is that it? So when should MC feel suspicious about Jinwon? When he's being raped? And would that stop him with being raped? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. There's nothing MC could've done to save himself from being raped the moment the water touched his lips. Stop trying to use victim-blaming logic like "The victim should've seen it coming and drop kicked the perpetrator and stopped himself from being raped!"

"Lol. Imagine being raped, and you turn around to face said rapist, and tell him to go and wear a condom before raping you. Do you see how that sounds?"

I literally told you I imagined it? I'd prob beg them to put on a condom. Either they do or not is up to them but sue me for trying. Sorry I guess that wouldn't be very victim-like.

"No, you tell me what rape victim defends their rapist?"

Jesus this is literally a common phenomenon. Search it up. Human psychology is complicated sorry not all victims behave the EXACT SAME WAY. Are you saying that only victims who behave the way YOU WANT deserve sympathy? I sincerely hope you're not a judge, although we're all too familiar with judges that put the spotlight on victims rather than the perpetrator...

"I've said it before, for all he knew, Jinwon had consciously drugged him, refused to leave when he begged him to and fucked him against his wishes or consent to get him pregnant."

Ok you could've just said this. Why spend so long character assassinating him to try to justify the rape?

"My issue is the author could have written him actively being traumatized, hurt and betrayed by someone he trusted (an alpha who he knows his company actively wants his), who for all his knowledge, consciously drugged him against his will and wanted to get him pregnant, especially considering his aversion to alphas. But rather he's unfazed, calm, listen to the explanation and bandages his wounds that he caused, and turns around and defends him when confronted by Hyeondo."

There it is. You're upset that he didn't react to the rape the way YOU WANT him to. He's not the perfect image of the victim you have in your mind, so you find ways justify his victimhood. He IS traumatized, hurt, and betrayed by someone he trusted. And he can also be calm, listen to the explanation of someone he had once trusted (would you not want to know why someone you trusted betrayed you?), and bandage someone he beat up. Those are not mutually exclusive and do not diminish what he went through. He did not forgive Jinwon and didn't defend him because of fondness. He's thinking of the repercussions of killing the enemy company's son and how to use Jinwon as leverage. He's being level-headed because maybe that allows him to feel some semblance of control (something victims commonly seek to deal with their trauma).

"HOW Yuhyeon who's been against alpha treated the whole rape thing as a normal Tuesday, that goes against character. That's it."

MC did not treat the rape as a normal tuesday, you haven't seen how this incident will affect him beyond the 10 mins after it has happened. Frankly, even if he did treat his rape as a normal Tuesday, that's his prerogative. Who made you the victim police?

"And let me guess, you remember every bet and promise you've made 10 years ago? Idk what you want the MC to do about something he doesn't remember..."

If you made a bet that fucking affects your entire livelihood, inheritance, legacy and heritage, then yeah, I'd expect to remember it. Tf?


"Ok you could've just said this. Why spend so long character assassinating him to try to justify the rape?"
What the fuck? Where on God's green earth am I defending the rape??

Jesus Christ, all these fucking talk and you're not getting my point.
I don't hate Yuhyeon, I mean the story needs tension so the author got to do what the author gotta do.

Bro! His reaction to the rape goes completely against his character that has already been established. He's been established as being distrustful towards all alphas, and having a strong backbone. Yet, he stays at an alpha's house, gets raped by him, and just brushes it off like nothing happened.
Imagine if Kim Dan was raped by Heesung (Jinx) or Na-kyum was raped (Painter) and they both defend their rapists in front of ML, all and fine, it's in CHARACTER for them. That's how they're fucking written to be!

"If you made a bet that fucking affects your entire livelihood, inheritance, legacy and heritage, then yeah, I'd expect to remember it. Tf?"

Actually depending on the context yea... he wagered his entire inheritance as a mean to convey that it's impossible for the ML to date him at the time. He even said it out right. It's like someone saying "I'll date you over my dead body", because it was never meant to be taken srsly but OMG YOU BETTED YOUR LIFE? You fucking idiot!!

To be fair, I acknowledge that this is a stupid thing for him to bet on and I'm sure it's used purely as a plot device to create this EXACT misunderstanding. I actually find it more believable that MC forgot this bet than the fact that the ML never brought up the BET even ONCE till NOW. If anything, THAT'S out of character (considering that he shared about the bet to MC's dad with little probing and how often he begs the MC to be in a relationship). Really? Not even once of him being like "why did it have to be this bet? I'd give all my shares now if you date me" Yea but no one ever complains about that huh?

"Jesus Christ, all these fucking talk and you're not getting my point.
I don't hate Yuhyeon, I mean the story needs tension so the author got to do what the author gotta do."

Well I'm not getting your point cuz your point keeps changing. If you have a problem with how the author wrote the character, you could've just said that from the start. But the anger in your og post (maybe you should read it again) is very obviously directed towards the character instead of the author. Make up your mind. And yes there is a clear difference. And no I'm not going to spell it out for you.

"Bro! His reaction to the rape goes completely against his character that has already been established. He's been established as being distrustful towards all alphas, and having a strong backbone. Yet, he stays at an alpha's house, gets raped by him, and just brushes it off like nothing happened.
Imagine if Kim Dan was raped by Heesung (Jinx) or Na-kyum was raped (Painter) and they both defend their rapists in front of ML, all and fine, it's in CHARACTER for them. That's how they're fucking written to be!"

Again, dude you can't just keep dancing all over your own points. You have a problem with essentially everything the MC did, even before the rape. At this point just admit that you hate his character and get it over with. Idk if you view the people in your life through such a one-dimensional lens but people are complex. I'm distrustful of men in general but I still have male figures in my life that I trust, it doesn't mean I should never trust any man ever again. Jinwon isn't just any alpha off the street, they have a pre-establish relationship and trust built over YEARS. He was more of an ally to the MC during the fight for chairmanship than ML ever was in the past few YEARS. To me, MC has always been soft. He accepted ML's initiation/coercion of sex pretty much 100% of the time even when he didn't initially feel like it. Him being calm and rational even in the face of a traumatizing and stressful event is an admirable trait. Him being soft on someone he trusted, who raped him (but professes that he didn't mean to), is in line with his character. It's tragic and I wish he sent Jinwon 6 ft under but I at least understand why he didn't.

"What the fuck? Where on God's green earth am I defending the rape??"
Maybe you're young, but you cannot be this naive. You might not have directly said "MC deserves to be raped" but any attempts to deflect from giving MC his due sympathy and acknowledging MC as purely a victim with the "but...but...but..." is in some way trying to take away their victimhood and redirecting the blame ONTO them. Villainizing victims (like what you were doing) is a common ploy for media to shift narratives and pinpoint victims as the villain in their own tragedy, and that often keeps them from achieving justice and support. Just like how the media's character assassination of George Floyd just reinforced more racism instead of letting the light shed on the actual issues: police brutality, systemic racism, etc. Maybe take a lil break from BL and read up things in the real world, because your way of thinking (like the perfect victim myth) could have real consequences.

This is going to be my last reply, I've spent too much time on this. Wishing you the best.

"You might not have directly said "MC deserves to be raped" but any attempts to deflect from giving MC his due sympathy and acknowledging MC as purely a victim with the "but...but...but..." is in some way trying to take away their victimhood and redirecting the blame ONTO them."

I love how you just completely ignored the point of my entire spiel which is pointing out the hypocrisy of Yuhyeon's character, and just fixate your entire self on the rape.


"But any attempts to deflect from giving MC his due sympathy and acknowledging MC as purely a victim with the "but...but...but..." is in some way trying to take away their victimhood and redirecting the blame ONTO them."

And THERE it is, you've finally said what you've been beating about the bush for. You're saying because I criticize his character for completely being a 180 to his initial characterization, I support his rape. The mental gymnastics you used to come to this opinion is simply baffling and devoid of logistics. Because MC was raped, you simply decide to play the emotional card and ignore logic.


I honestly don't know if you understand my point or are trying so hard not to understand.


For use of a weird analogy since this has to do with omegaverse:

You are a lesbian. You tell your friends you may likely marry a female. Everyone knows this. Including your family, and the entirety of your friends know this.
They know you are into women and have no interest in male.
One day comes by, and your male friend of so many years that you trust and knows your preference suddenly pounces on you by trapping you between a counter and himself and begins kissing your neck, you headbutt him and he lets you go. Two days later, he drugs you, and while you were conscious, raped you. At that moment while being raped, would you not be feeling betrayed that your friend of so many years is raping you? Traumatized? Hurt? Do you just brush it off, clean the wounds you inflicted by slapping him, and tell him "okay, I'll let it slide for old time sake?" and get back on your feet like it was a normal Tuesday. And then turns around, and defends him when a friend of yours comes to defend your honor? How are you gonna let it slide for "old time's sake"? Which rape victim is letting their perpetrators slide for "old time's sake"?


His character from the beginning of the manhwa since he was a teenager was established as someone who is biased towards alpha, distrustful, sneers at them, sees them as ladder-climbing parasites that gets all the glory while omegas are left at the bottom of the corporate chain, and sees alpha as only desiring omega solely for getting physical pleasure, and has no interest in getting an alpha husband (as he's told Hyundo many times) but would rather settle for a beta instead. That has been established from the onset of his characterization.

Then he gets forcefully raped by a close alpha friend of his that he trusts, and the author just lets him say "okay, so anyways...." and shrugs it off. Keep in mind, this is someone established as having negative feelings already towards alpha, and his negative feelings were proven accurate by the behavior of his trusted friend. We didn't see how this betrayal of trust affected him in that moment the rape occured especially as he already has negative opinions of the gender, AND especially, coming from someone you know is the alpha heir of your rival company.

For someone established with such criticism and dismissal towards alphas, you'd think that would be reflected in his behavior towards Jinwon or even reinforce his prerogative towards alphas. Yet, he just hears him out and lets it go for "old time sake". Where's the whole reinforcement of alpha this that has been his entire characterization since the beginning of the manhwa? He just ignores it?


You're of the opinion that because he was raped, that should excuse his hypocrisy.