please recommend me your favorite COMPLETE bl manhwa
I was going to say Semantic Error :-) _ but then i'll gladly share my other favorites , which are complete : Jazz for Two, Wolf in the House, Blood Bank, and My High School Romance (also completed even though it is labeled '' ongoing '' the last chapter is on Mangago + someone shared the raws for the epilogue) _ no. i cannot choose one . Lol.
tbh as a man, ive been wondering what attracts women to bl ?? i feel like the fandoms of these bls/yaois should have more gay men considering the stories are about gay men but its so full of women that ppl in the fandoms just assume everyone is a woman now no hate btw just wondering what makes yall enjoy it sm
I remember I first got into bl because of gacha life, I watched one gay alpha omegaverse skit and ever since then, I was addicted. I moved on from those to bl anime, and then finally to manga and Manwha. I think the reason I’m addicted and can’t stop reading is because of not just the plot, but for some reason I just can’t stand reading about a man and a woman together, like I’m fine if it’s in action story’s, but just romance I can’t read. I think it’s a personal problem more for me but I just can only read about same sex couples in romance. Think of it in the way that most men like straight story’s, or sexualize women more, women like gay story’s and sexualize men more. Idk how this works but yeah
okay but “most men like straight stories and sexualize women” is different from “most women like gay stories and sexualize men” bc why cant they just sexualize the men that are in straight stories then ??? cause i know that most straight men dont read gl so im just tryna understand why women read bl and hold it to such a high standard compared to straight stories
i highly recommend this manga that i heavily relate too that explains it well https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/i_want_to_be_the_wall/ imo i kinda just like the fact that i dont really relate to it and dont (usually) have to stress about female characters being treated awfully and relating to it in that sense.. it's nice to just observe and i feel like sometimes bl gives me that feeling the best
1.Characters aren't sexualised, their bodies aren't sexualised.
2.No weird stereotypical gender dynamics in the society, they're both seen as 'equals' more or less. I don't mean the power dynamics within the relationships.
3. I read GL as well because I'm a lesbian but even in GL girls are sexualised or there's heavy sexual undertones sometimes even when they're done doing dumb shit I hate it.
4. Because the mc isn't seen as weak or villainesque just because they're pretty, there's no need to redeem themselves they just get to live life. There's so many variations in straight manhwa where the fl is wronged and she has to earn her place in the society again. Like look at the amount of villainess manhwa.
Like where the fl always has to be the most beautiful girl in the room and all the men are supposed to fall for her because she's beautiful. Whereas in BL I don't usually see it happen.
Other characters actually treat the mc as another normal human and not a possible love interest in BL.
i definitely think that the characters in bls are sexualized in ways that are unrealistic. for example, the giant penises, the ripped bodies, or when the bottom has a nice ass and a skinny waist. its portraying smth similar to a straight relationship where the man (the top) is “manly” and the woman (the bottom) is feminine. i also think there are gender stereotypes because in almost EVERY popular bl, one of them takes on the role of the “wife” or the “woman” theres also the thing with the plots being like “the rich top saves the poor bottom” which is like a damsel in distress trope. i dont think bl is much different from straight romance minus the fact that both characters are men instead of a man and a woman. it may be different for you because you dont see yourself in either male character but as a man i can clearly see the similarities i wont say anything about the woman always having to prove or redeem herself because your definitely right about that
i also just wanted to say that even if its not the story itself, bl characters are constantly sexualized by fans even when theres no smut in the story. theres plenty of people who will call a story boring if the characters arent fucking within the first few chaps. im not saying thats you !! its just something ive noticed, like a lot of ppl only read bl for the sex which is why im not understanding the appeal
you're right. I don't like the cinderella plot lines and skip the sex scenes so I didn't realise. They always do make the shous look extremely feminine and the gongs look like they're superman variants. that has to go.
BL definitely caters to the straight demographic but removes the element of relatability by making them both men. but every other aspect is the same, damn.
Although I feel like recently there has been a lot of buff shous so that's good.
yesss i love the ones like “define the relationship” or “our sunny days” because theyre both masculine but maybe thats the masc4masc in me talking i just like when they arent trying to copy the straight relationship stereotypes because like … THEY ARE GAY MEN !!! but ty for replying this was an interesting conversation
Idk but i think there's barely see any bl that has more equal dynamics lol sorry but it's somehow very rare.
Bl's are extremely stereotypical when it comes to differencing the bottom and the top.
Sexualization exits in bl as well and non-accurate sexual activities. Because of that only you can already tell who the target audience is lol which is also the same for bl.
Most bl don't even see one as human but only an essential ona-hole bait for grape lovers. It's sad. It's even worst in omega verse and guideverses.
I don't hold any special feelings to bl so some replies makes me confused as to why y'all actually think this way but I guess for you its simple you want to be treated as equal and the only thing that has been demonstrating it properly to you is bl. I think it's sweet
The gender dynamics are more in the way the society views them.
Like you know when a man and a woman so much as hold hands, society thinks they're dating. And the mcs/ fls are always being shipped with the opposite gender as the slightest inconvenience.
Where you see the mc/ml walking together and everyone assumes they're just friends because they're both men?
The clear differentiation between shou and gong is true! The sexualization thing I can't speak on because I don't view men that way, but it proves your point!
The last one is true T_T
i will say that is true and everytime i see another story like that i audibly sigh... i guess it's hard to word but im moreso talking about sexist tropes and growing up as a girl you kinda just get surrounded by female characters that just get pushed around. a lot of times it just hits way too close to home. im sorry im not great at explaining things but it's nice to get a break from seeing that all the time.
plus i do really love seeing queer relationships play out and a there's A LOT more bl than gl. i read both but bl's a lot more accessible with my fav tropes and more complete works
and i def agree with your other points about the sexualization with bl bc it's really is bad. a lot of straight women do read it just for the sex which is unfortunate.
OMG I love those two
Also I think you'll love contradict ( they're both fire fighters in it)
This author writes a lot of masc characters!
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/contradict/
well for me as woman and pansexual in closet I read bl because first I find it comforting as someone who's part of lgbt, second its not that I only read bl specifically I want to read gl as well BUT MOST OF THE TIME bls have more interesting and more realistic stories specially tackling how society views the lgbt community there isn't really a big of a reason it's just normal for me to read bl and gl as how it is normal to straights to read straight manhwas
imo, bls dont have realistic stories about tackling societal views on the lgbt community because well … they mostly follow the same storyline. “straight” top who turns gay for the bottom, or closeted bottom who gets outed and bullied for it. like okay that can be realistic but its the same shit every time. i dont read gl because seeing two women in a relationship or seeing two women fucking doesnt do anything for me. i love women but i dont wanna see them fuck even if its not real
https://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/2454722/ Here’s my list. I have a lot of realistic bl, I mean some might not be exactly how it is irl, but it’s definitely better than other popular bl’s
Sorry I don’t know how to exactly word it it’s like you know how in hentai and stuff the woman face looks so unnatural, I just can’t really look at it cause it’s just so weird, and it’s like that in a bunch of sex scenes with women, but in- this is so weird to type out- but in bl and stuff it’s not like that. Sorry that I can't explain it well, I just rather see two men over a man and a female
pls recommend me bl manhwas with cry baby puppy like tops PLEASEEEE i need a sub top
My puppy seme list: https://www.mangago.me/home/mangalist/884033/
so i read this omegaverse bl awhile ago but i cant remember the name all i remember is that the omega slept with the alpha while he was in his rut bc the omega wanted a baby since he wanted to be fully loved by someone. and after he slept with the alpha he literally vanished. but then they end up meeting again awhile later and they fall in love ig and he ends up finding out that the baby is his HELP PLSSSS

media literacy is dead. all you fujoshis call every bl character a read flag, im TIRED !!!
If you know"full moon alchemist" you'd be confused about how many people call the seme a red flag ( he is NOT).
And the same thing with the ml in "half of me" mfers don't know the definition of "red flag" anymore.
Also the one from "why are you so kind to everyone except me"
Yk what they say about fujoshis and being colorblind ( ̄∇ ̄")
idk the first one but i know the other two and i agree they are NOT red flags. ppl just don’t understand that people ARE NOT ALL THE SAME. even though they are characters and they arent real, they are still based off real personalities and everyone is different. just because they dont jump when the mc says jump doesnt mean theyre a red flag we cant have complex characters anymore omg
youre right !
Seriously it's becoming a problem. I lost faith when even the seme from "punch drunk and love" got called a red flag too..is this what we are??? Is this really necessary...?you don't need to analyze everything as red flag signs just cause he doesn't IMMEDIATELY falls in love with the other guy in just 0.0000000001 second.
OMG HE IS NOTTTT A RED FLAG i love the dynamic in that story, i dont think either of them are bad at all. they think just bc the bottom has a crush on the top it means the top NEEDS to reciprocate immediately or he’s a piece of shit …. like come on now
I have the opposite problem. I see ppl call characters green flags for doing the bare minimum. Like, "he apologized after he threatened to hit him with a car, such a green flag!" Fujoshi standards are too low, sometimes...
Fr it's getting out of hand. I also love the dynamics in that story. The author was cooking so hard bro(≧∀≦)
no fucking way