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Moccino March 1, 2021 5:59 am

misunderstandings between father and daughter are irritating. She makes her own scripts and films on her own and she never asks for an explanation, it's boring. She's not the real Juvelian so she should express herself more and have the same personality as in her old life.
Seriously, she still slept with a man she had just met and didn't know at all so I'm not going to make me believe that she can't communicate with her father because she is shy or that she is afraid !!!!
And then what is the prince's problem? He wants to kill the Duke's daughter just because the Duke loves his daughter? Even though he's attractive at the moment I don't like him at all, that asshole !!
Although this is déjà vu, I am enjoying this webtoon for the moment, hoping that it does not turn into a story of misunderstandings.

    Amy_b_t March 1, 2021 7:25 am

    Reading this comment was a Rollercoaster

    EnaLikesThis March 1, 2021 8:00 am

    I feel u. Especially the title of your comment.

    Moccino March 1, 2021 8:05 am
    Reading this comment was a Rollercoaster Amy_b_t

    Moccino March 1, 2021 8:07 am
    I feel u. Especially the title of your comment. EnaLikesThis

    Thank you!!

    athenavi_ March 1, 2021 11:03 am

    "misunderstandings between father and daughter are irritating. She makes her own scripts and films on her own and she never asks for an explanation, it's boring. She's not the real Juvelian so she should express herself more and have the same personality as in her old life."

    What she does is rational though, her 'father' has been treating her like shit and even sent 'her' to her own death; I think people like you guys read too many tyrant Father-Daughter isekai manhwas in which (sometimes) the transmigrated daughter always thinks that "okay, I can change my behaviour 180° within a week and no one would suspect that this body got "possessed" and my new dad would instantly love me!"

    Sometimes I wondered, if I lived in historical era and my cousin who is known to be a "villainess" suddenly changed her behaviour within one week, I'm pretty sure my family will fucking call a priest to get rid of whomever is possessing her.

    And if she suddenly acts all "nice", people would think that she's possessed since it's a historical setting and do you want to see her getting exorcised??? This is called "baby steps".

    It's easy to change your behaviour when they transmigrated when the said villains were still under 10 y.o; heck, even Athy was still scared that Claude (pre amnesia) would someday discard her even though they have spent almost 10 years together.

    And WMAP is still the best transmigration manhwa 'til now, and I imagined if Athy transmigrated when the original body were in her 18 y.o., she wouldn't have survived. Claude would only get suspicious and suspect that she's practicing some black magic and kfc that would give him more reasons to kill her.

    Imagine if you only knew your "dad" for a few months, if she did something too "OOC" then her dad would get suspicious too.

    This is called "common sense".

    Moccino March 1, 2021 12:02 pm
    "misunderstandings between father and daughter are irritating. She makes her own scripts and films on her own and she never asks for an explanation, it's boring. She's not the real Juvelian so she should expres... athenavi_

    You act as if Athy and Claude were the only reference in terms of Isekai !!!
    And then you say it's common sense? What is common sense is not to sleep and spend the day with a stranger who came into your room at night through the window and who put his sword under your throat and who threw you out of bed in you. leaving bruises on the body !!
    Moreover, to answer your question, if I had transmigrated in the body of this girl, I would have tried to get closer to the father, to communicate with him, to make him love me etc ... Since you yourself refer to Athy, remember that Athy did everything to make Claude love her, she spent time with him, and in the end he showed her love and she was no longer afraid of him . Juvelian makes films and as soon as her father does something, she doesn't see his good intentions, she doesn't even try to see them, for a girl of the 21st century, in my opinion she should have more common sense as you say !
    And logic would dictate that if it is a girl who is afraid even of her father, she should be afraid of a stranger who put his sword to her throat !!

    Moccino March 1, 2021 12:24 pm
    "misunderstandings between father and daughter are irritating. She makes her own scripts and films on her own and she never asks for an explanation, it's boring. She's not the real Juvelian so she should expres... athenavi_

    Sorry I reread my answer and I find it a bit aggressive when it was not my intention! Sincerely sorry. I understand what you mean but I think there is too much isekai with girls who have no common sense and it gets boring with force, but you are not wrong when you say that she shouldn't change right away but since her dad is different she should change too to see if she can improve their relationship.
    It was just my opinion. I hope I don't sound too aggressive and sorry again.

    Crayonn March 1, 2021 1:28 pm
    You act as if Athy and Claude were the only reference in terms of Isekai !!!And then you say it's common sense? What is common sense is not to sleep and spend the day with a stranger who came into your room at ... Moccino

    Yes!! That's right!! People shitting on me for finding the misunderstanding irritating too

    athenavi_ March 1, 2021 2:43 pm
    You act as if Athy and Claude were the only reference in terms of Isekai !!!And then you say it's common sense? What is common sense is not to sleep and spend the day with a stranger who came into your room at ... Moccino

    If I remembered, I only make a comment towards the first row of paragraphs (?) that you made. I didn't make a comment about the rest of your comment since I also think your point is true.

    Im using Athy & Claude because it's the original Tyrant Father&Daughter webtoon. And it has quite the common sense too. And the better one obviously, more realistic compared to its other counterparts (I can say this bcs I think I've read enough bad isekai mangas and chinese isekai manhuas... god, I think I can vomit remembering that.)

    I did mention that "it's easier to change your behaviour completely WITHOUT making people get suspicious of yourself IF you transmigrated when the original body's age is under 10 y.o.,".

    I mean, even as a 5 y.o., Athy was scared that she would seem too "mature" for her age, and people would get too sus of her (hello, Lady Baby? Pls take an example from WMAP). Imagine if someone who's known as a Villainess for years suddenly changes her behaviour like a Saintess? I think most webtoons forget about this basic logic.

    The more she aged, she still gets scared that someday Claude would discard her; and for Claude to actually love her, how many years did it take huh? Even years later, sometimes he still doesn't really know whether he really loves Athy or not. Caitel is even more honest with his feelings towards Ria than Claude.

    Also, I've said it before, IF Athy transmigrated when the original body's age is 18 y.o. (when she got killed), she WOULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED. Heck.

    "as soon as her father does something, she doesn't see his good intentions, she doesn't even try to see them, for a girl of the 21st century, in my opinion she should have more common sense as you say !"

    That is called as being careful, dumbass. If I knew my "dad" is going to have me killed myself in the future, of fucking course I would get sus of EVERY MOVES he makes.

    With that expresionless face he makes, I don't know whether he would kill me tomorrow or later.

    We, as the readers, KNOW that the father wouldn't kill her BECAUSE we also see and read from his point of view. But she, who only knows that he is someone who is cruel enough to make her daughter kills herself, ofc wouldn't think like that. Especially bcs the novels ended right after she killed herself. She's left with no clue after she arrived in that world.

    That's what an actual good FL of a good novel would do. Not saying this novel is good or anything though... still too early. You know, those novels with good ratings in goodreads.

    Alright, enough for the essays. God, this is for some dumb webtoon, I think when my profs actually give me a work to review an actual literature novel I would've passed out lol.

    Crayonn March 1, 2021 3:56 pm
    Yes!! That's right!! People shitting on me for finding the misunderstanding irritating too Crayonn

    Oh wait it's the same person they even used 2 accounts to fight my comment

    Moccino March 1, 2021 5:41 pm
    If I remembered, I only make a comment towards the first row of paragraphs (?) that you made. I didn't make a comment about the rest of your comment since I also think your point is true.Im using Athy & Cla... athenavi_

    Oh did you really write DUMBASS ??
    I think we're going to have to clear things up right now, I wrote a comment and you don't agree, I don't have a problem with that but to call someone stupid because they don't not think the same as you on a webtoon ... ask yourself who is the real stupid! Just because you write novels about people's comments and try to make yourself look great by mentioning your teachers' literary reviews doesn't mean that your comment will addweight! Before allowing yourself to stop responding to other people's comments, then respect them even if you don't agree !!
    Also, don't you dare to insult me anymore because in this game you won't win.

    athenavi_ March 1, 2021 6:02 pm
    Oh did you really write DUMBASS ??I think we're going to have to clear things up right now, I wrote a comment and you don't agree, I don't have a problem with that but to call someone stupid because they don't ... Moccino

    Alright, sorry, I was kinda sleep-deprived when I wrote that one insult lol. Sorry for not proof-reading that one comment.

    Uhm no? I didn't try to make myself sound great by mentioning that? Just thinking why the heck I was so passionate in writing a long ass comment for a damn webtoon but not so when I really had to write one for my assignment.

    And I actually mentioned that bcs when ur assignments included writing some reviews for books, even when reading a webnovel/toon, that fucking habits sometime came up..... and ended up like this. Esp at this kind of hour. Fuck. You kinda became an over-analyzed, sleep-deprived person.

    Goodnight then~

    Dingo123 March 2, 2021 7:07 am

    You're either dumb or haven't been paying attention. Refer to chapter 2, FL clearly states that she was reincarnated into the novel BUT she lived and grew up as the real FL. ONLY just (four days ago) she remembered her past life from another world - this is essentially where she read the novel she is in. Up until that point she grew up with her Father acting cruel, being in a relationship with Mikhail etc. and going down the same path the FL would go down. The only reason she knows her timeline is bc she remembers (only now) her past life and reading it from that life. She still went through the same old shit from the novel she isn't a different person possessing her body NO she lived that life. If you read into trauma, behavioural science, psychology etc. you would understand that MC's actions are completely understandable & explainable.

Moccino February 22, 2021 7:32 pm

I think the villain in the title is letio and I also think letio will push Celestine (the real Celestine) to kill Prince Ignis.
Basically the roles will be reversed.

Moccino February 16, 2021 8:03 pm

Another naive female leader. I don't understand why the webtoon writers find a naive and somewhat silly woman to be the ideal female character. Is that supposed to be lovely? Couldn't she be charming if she was smart? Does transmigrating in a book lose IQ points? She kept the knowledge of her past life and the knowledge of the old Blair, so shouldn't she be less dense and less naive?
I like the character of Chloe and I wait to see her evolution but Blair, she is too stubborn, you always have to repeat things to her several times and even there, she still has trouble understanding, it becomes annoying. And then she persists in sticking to the book even if she herself says that the book was not complete, it's really stupid.
Fortunately, Fisa made her debut on stage! She's too badass. I hope we have more scenes with her and that she rubs off on Fl.

Moccino February 15, 2021 4:31 pm

Moccino February 13, 2021 10:50 pm

The story is too predictable and too easy! She decides to wake up her powers, she sits on the ground and hooop she succeeds and suddenly her fat melts. She is looking for a bodyguard and she goes to the market and she finds the future bodyguard of the crown prince and she saves him and brings him home.
Her relationship with her sister and brother changed just suddenly. Seriously I find her too selfish, she has the body and the status of Sylvia but she does nothing to avenge her or make sure to restore her image, she only thinks of running away with a lot of money. She uses her knowledge to take hold of everything that can help her have a good life.
The designs are pretty though. But why is she the only one to wear such short shorts with very eye-catching tights?

    Kaladin February 13, 2021 11:10 pm

    lololol fr XD
    then i ain't readin this one

    Nobody in Particular v3 February 14, 2021 12:20 am

    I completely agree! It's gotten boring, frankly. I'm probably gonna be dropping this, lol.

    Moccino February 14, 2021 7:48 pm
    I completely agree! It's gotten boring, frankly. I'm probably gonna be dropping this, lol. Nobody in Particular v3

    Same! I'll also drop that

Moccino February 13, 2021 7:17 pm

I think she stole my heart too. I love her too much. She is smart, funny, thoughtful and unlike many heroine in the isekai genre, she does not seek to manipulate others for the sole purpose of saving herself. The fact that she wants to save everyone, that she knows how to question herself and that she pays attention to the feelings of other characters makes her one of my favorite female webtoon isekai characters.
And then the plot is excellent, the way the characters change in contact with Selena, it makes me even more addicted to the novel.

    Rebeca February 13, 2021 10:16 pm

    Yeah this is great.ლ(´ڡ`ლ)

Moccino February 13, 2021 11:29 am

I am so obsessed with this webtoon. I need more chapters.

Moccino February 12, 2021 7:44 pm

The art is so stunning!! Gosh . Aside from the drawings, I find the plot a bit weird. Without the beautiful designs, this webtoon would be pointless in my opinion.
Already we do not know if it is a transmigration in a novel or if it is a journey back in time. Besides, isn't it a bit too easy for her? She just needs to say something to make people believe her even if they have a little doubt. And yet, everything she plans always goes in the direction she has decided, for me it is too simple.
Honestly, there is no real suspense, we can predict everything that is going to happen so it is boring.
Well, I don't understand why she doesn't respect the old Cayena, okay she was a spoiled child but from there to calling her a bitch and pretending that the old Cayena
bothers her, I want to say her that without the body of the old Cayena, she couldn't live again so she would have to show respect. Maybe the problem is with the translation too ...
In short, it was just my opinion.

    KauisVitalis February 12, 2021 7:53 pm

    In the novel it's more detailed and I finished it at 100 chapters and i read the manga, many details are not being shown so i recommend u to read the novel

    KauisVitalis February 12, 2021 7:55 pm

    she remebers her past life (cayena) and the other one (office worker) so that's why maybe she can easily call herself a bitch or smth haha

    Itz_Gertrude February 12, 2021 10:21 pm

    She's the OG Cayena. Her situation is similar to the FL in Doctor Elise. and since it's a webtoon, some details get lost from the web novel

    lucia_luce February 12, 2021 11:13 pm

    It's too early to say 'there's no real suspense, we can predict everything bla blah'

    Read the novel, you might change your mind https://woopread.com/series/the-villainess-is-a-marionette/

    Moccino February 13, 2021 9:41 am
    It's too early to say 'there's no real suspense, we can predict everything bla blah'Read the novel, you might change your mind https://woopread.com/series/the-villainess-is-a-marionette/ lucia_luce

    When you've read a lot of webtoon or manga in the isekai genre, you quickly understand what's going to happen and you can even predict what the heroine will do !! I prefer originality so I quickly become critical !!
    Afterwards you are probably right, I think the best it is that I read the novel, it will surely be more interesting.
    Thanks for the link

Moccino February 11, 2021 6:46 pm

Why is it so fast??

Moccino February 9, 2021 9:39 pm

I find that there are more and more crappy isekai !! Just because the isekai genre is popular, that doesn't mean they're all worth it!! I'd like more originality but it's always the same thing.

    Isabel February 10, 2021 5:25 am

    Right like I’m getting kinda tired from the same thing all over again. Like she really about to like a dude who took advantage of her when she was drunk. Not only does he just happen to be the freaking emperor but he also just falls in love with her after meeting her just once (╯°Д °)╯╧╧

    Moccino February 10, 2021 7:51 am
    Right like I’m getting kinda tired from the same thing all over again. Like she really about to like a dude who took advantage of her when she was drunk. Not only does he just happen to be the freaking empero... Isabel

    Exactly!! And a guy arrives and says to everyone: she is the emperor's fiancée, without even having asked MC for his opinion as if it's was normal!

    Isabel February 10, 2021 10:39 pm
    Exactly!! And a guy arrives and says to everyone: she is the emperor's fiancée, without even having asked MC for his opinion as if it's was normal! Moccino

    Yep that was a dick move on my opinion, like Im pretty sure there were other ways you could have helped her instead using your title to force her into having to be your fiancé or then she would be made fun of for lying about it, like it happened last chapter

    Moccino February 12, 2021 7:50 pm
    Yep that was a dick move on my opinion, like Im pretty sure there were other ways you could have helped her instead using your title to force her into having to be your fiancé or then she would be made fun of ... Isabel

    Welles said!!

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