Why do these authors always have to take the one brown person and make them an evil person who practices satanic arts, seduces people through the power of sensual dancing (implying she's basically a type of prostitute), and is born from a "savage" race that is "uncultured" and "low born"? Like, she's the only adult brown person, and she's a bad guy like girl, you can make anyone our secret evil, and you chose your only person of color? I know we knew she was gonna be bad, but the least they can do is not correlate her skin color and ethnic origins to the reasons why she's bad
How about stop looking at every fucking fictional reads looking for representations that aligns with your personal beliefs and bitching about it in illegal sites?
If you can't enjoy a read without associating it to any skin colors you'll be at so much peace knowing all of this are all just fictional, drawn characters... This are the preferences of the novel author. Get over it. See how it's only you correlating the skin to a personal degree? Please, You're in an illegal site.
That's like saying every representations of dark elves in every books are inaccurate as they are all inherently portrayed as eveil beings. Bruh
I know people don't like to talk politics in places like this, BUT you'd be a fool to think this is not racially motivated lol
Japanese and korean comics always potray dark skinned characters as barbaric and bloodlusted and all brawns no brains in a fantasy setting.
Same way hollywood used to portray asians usually men as nerdy, awkward losers and blondes as dumb and slow. It's not direct, but like I said it's clearly motivated.
Even if some of these authors ended up just following a trend of having the dark skinned characters always be the barbarian and lowly, some other definitely did it on purpose lol
Its totally justified to complain about racial streotypes in manwhas because even though its fiction as you said, the inherent problem that many brown skinned characters are mostly potrayed as 'evil' or 'babaric' is still there and has every reason to be adressed. Because as someone already mentioned some koreans are racist and do indulge in these streotypes
Omg. She happened to have a darker skin. So what? It could have literally be some lighter skin tone. Dun make everything ouy of a fresking skin tone ffs.
Like, yes racism is a thing and it sucks. But ya not really helping the case by complaining over freaking fictional characters who just happened to have a non-light skintone man...
People with darker skintones can also be very racistic towards people with lighter skintones and vice versa.
There are so many webtoons who have light skintoned characters do the same as the Queen, yet ppl dun complain bout that. "But how dare u make a character with a darker skintone do these stuff."
You must be joking, the problem here is that it's ALWAYS the people with darker skin who are labeled as villains, as barbarians, and when they are men like ML, they are always the brutes while FL are snow-white and super delicate.
Whether you want to admit it or not, this is blatant racism in manhwas.
Korea is an extremely racist country and its stories make this clear countless times.
Why are black people always the villains, why are they always labeled as aggressive and barbaric?
This is an issue that should not be normalized in our society and it is perfectly normal to question it.
Using the excuse that it's a fictional story is not a justification, it's just you trying to justify racism or aligning yourself with it.
Honestly, are you pretending not to understand at this point?
Or is your understanding limited to this point?
First of all, Vinland Saga is a manga based on a TRUE STORY, there's no reason to bring this topic up here.
What I'm saying is that manhwas with dark-skinned people are always labeled, again and again and again, as I said in another comment, they are always the aggressive ones, the villains, the brutes.
But I understand now that you two are big defenders of racism and honestly, people like that don't think.
Fuck the racists!!!
I truly started a war lol. Don't get why people can't just understand that fiction reflects reality, and works created by people tend to reflect the personal beliefs of the person writing it. If the only reason to include a darker-skinned character is to make them an easy villain cuz you can label them an outsider/barbarian, then clearly there is a political slant to it, even if it's unintentional. Ignorance is alive and well, and acknowledging that harmful stereotypes exist is the only way people can learn and grow. Media influences the world, and if the manhwas Korean people always see have darker people as barbarians/sex symbols, it will continue to perpetuate these bad ideas. Acting like fiction doesn't influence the world is a very silly stance when that is sometimes the only way people can see different perspectives from their own, especially when they are younger. When those fictions all share common stereotypes, people are gonna notice; it's just up to the person to decide whether that stereotype is bad, and people can only do that if they are taught to recognize it; otherwise, it leads to generalizations like people in Korea make about darker-skinned people. I mean, just look at their beauty standards, where they literally do skin bleaching because being darker is seen as unattractive.
I'm no racist. I'm more of annoyed that everything has to be about someone's skintone/their ethnicity, etc. When it simply just doesn't have to be about one's skintone at all EVEN IN FICTION. Just because I don't share your opinion doesn't make me a racist.
Why do we call people "white" when not all of them have a white skintone. Just cuz they are pale? Why do we call "black" ppl black, when their skintone isn't even black but brown? I find it more racistic calling ppl white, black and group them up like that when they dun even have the skintone that literally is "white"/"black".
Racism goes every way, path, nook & cranny. not just one. The Queen is simply of a different human ethnicity, and her being evil towards our FL has got nothing to do with her skintone. It's the same how the Priest in the story is a human piece of shite, but him being "white" has got nothing to do with how he is evil either. Just how irl ppl of different ethnicities can be mean or kind to one another and other groups of ppl.
Yes, Vinland Saga is based on a true story, but it is none the less, a piece of fiction (inspired by a real story) where light skinned characters be babarians. Whether it's based on a true story or not, does NOT change the fact that light skinned characters are in this case, the babarians and NOT any dark skinned ones. Same with the Witcher, Vikings, etc.
How come we have characters in fictional works who do belly dancing, and all kinds of stuff? Obviously they are based off off of something irl as well. And what sort of ethnicity is being based off of those things? So it makes SENSE why a lot of those characters end up dark skinned.
The thing is, yes a lot of koreans can be quite racistic, but so can all other people from other ethnicity be the same. It ain't just the koreans who does that shit.
And again, there are many MANY fictional works who have light skinned characters do evil shit, be babarians, etc. even in manhwas. (And not only Manhwas are capable of depicting dark skinned characters as evil).
If you base a character off a place where it's freaking sunny all the time, no wonder they have a tan skin. There is a reason why in The Witcher a lot of the characters there are pale. Cuz the sun doesn't shine that much. It's taking place in the north where it is extremely cold and stuff.
Which again. Whether a character is evil or not, has got nothing to do with their skintones man. You're ironically being racistic by making such a big deal over colorism.
Cuz yes, there is (example): Remarried Empress, where the "evil" character is indeed light skinned, despite coming from a different culture.
Or Babarian Quest (yes it's a manhwa) where the mc is literally the babarian and is light skinned as well. Like c'mon.
But ofc, it only becomes a "problem" when these characters happen to have a darker skin. Pls.
Except that ain't always the case. Not everything in fiction needs to reflect an authors belief. The reason the Queen simply has a different skintone is cuz she has a different skintone. I mean u could always reverse the question: "why are the characters light skinned?", "why do characters have a pale skin when they live in an area where it's always cold?", "why do characters who live in a sunny area usually have a tan skin?", "why do ppl have different skintones?" Answer, because they simply have said skintones. So "why not have a character which is dark skinned?". Why does everything need a reason? Why does everything need to be about someone's skintone?
On another hinsight, u can always put urself in another person's view. Imagine u calling someone a babarian, but at the same time you could be a babarian towards them. Fiction doesn't influence the world. It's the people who use the fiction who can influence the world. Ppl can use it for the good of it, and then there are ppl who misuses it. In ur case, you're misusing it. Because you are turning something into something that ain't even supposed to be the purpose of said work of fiction.
All a person needs to learn is how to differentiate between fiction and reality, if they can't then i call "skill issue" on that.
The story literally has pale characters be evil. The Queen isn't evil because she isn't pale. There is a reason why she does the things she does.
On another note, yes. Korea has an extreme toxic beauty standard, but not all koreans are like that. And that shit even exists outside korea. Racism is everywhere. Stereotypes always existed, even outside manhwas.
I can understand when someone gets annoyed at that stuff, but it's still not ok to misuse a work of fiction for ur own believes.
You go QUEEN!
Though basic knowledge will apply to some degree such as the weather, culture or whatnot but not everything needs to have an association to reality, that's why it's called fiction. It's frustrating to see readers who bring their projective agendas on a webtoon that's supposed to be red to see the problem of the world inside that book.
So what if they're drawn that way? Go read some american webtoon where skin representations matter then. Entitled bitches who can't even draw shouldn't bitch about something that's not created by your hands. The narrative of this world is focused on a girl struggling to survive. What's the point of criticizing the directive of the illustration?
Go play some D&D to understand world building from the very basics.
That chapter had just every cliche known to man. Her running away cuz its all her fault, her saying to stop fighting over her, them all yelling super publicly in a ballroom and yet no one reacts or cares
I love this story but the longer it goes on, the more cliches have popped up that are testing my patience fr
Feel like he should have recovered his memories of being Maythan but I will accept them having the same soul
I understand the author didnt want to put R-18 stuff in the main story so thats why this is all epilogue but this all def should have been part of the main storyline and then epilogues could have been more focused on their lives in the modern world or a look at the side characters in both worlds and their happy endings cuz it feels like no one gets to be happy in the game world once Maythan dies











I don't really get it. Are they actually in the past, or is this a simulation, and then all these people aren't real despite acting real?
Yeah I need an explanation too
Ok so basically the Dark Empire absorbed the other empires as vassals, right? That means the other empires get to enter Floor 90 too
Unlike the previous tower floors, Floors 90 to 99 are each based on the current top 10 empires' previous cycle. The goal on each floor is to stop that empire from being destroyed by the monster. The difficulty is adjusted though, so they're only fighting a part of the monster instead of the real one
The scenarios in floor 90 onwards are basically simulations, but somehow it still affects both the past and the future