I’m catching up again on this story and having someone deliver the final message to your husband that through pain and suffering, turmoil, lava, monsters, dragons and your colleagues dying in front of you, you cheated on him in a literal dungeon is so freaking disrespectful lol. Other people were saying, “Tell my family I love them/ I’m sorry”, and your will is about your infidelity in the absolute worst place possible to be even engaging in that kind of activity. It’s like when people get pregnant during zombie apocalypses. Imagine that being the last thing you say, “Tell my husband i cheated on him bleh ”
I don't read the novel so this is just my theory, imo she lied to make her husband's grief turn into hatred to make it easier for him to move on and forget her
this was literally horrible. it started off good, but an indefinite hiatus would’ve been better than this.
what was the point of having him be a kid just to have him turn into an adult literally five seconds later? could’ve just started him as an adult bc he was already an experiment so the whole relationship isn’t weird.
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I’ll never understand the “make the slave the bad guy” trope. She literally purchased him. She expected for him to be like a dog and love her wholly and unconditionally after she bought him. I don’t feel bad for her or feel like she’s a “girl boss” like they’re trying to portray her as at all in this situation.
I get why youd say that but penelope is acting like that here cuz despite everything eclis is the one who brought yvonne back to the main house. And that was not only ruined her plans for survival(her ultimate goal) but was seen as a huge betrayal
So id say valid crash out for her here
Fair point. Maybe I would’ve agreed if he used her to save his own people instead of straight up slaughtering them. I feel like out of all things that was the worst thing he did and I can’t have any sympathy for him more cause of that than Penelope
Penelope slander will NOT be tolerated. Are we just gonna forget that eclis is obsessed with her, not because he loves her but because he wants her all to himself? I mean the reason why he brought yvonne back was so penelope would become isolated and forced to only depend on eclis. Yes he was cute at the start but penelope literally gave him everything and I know she didn’t do it out of good will but that doesn’t make her deed invalid
yeah i could do without this part of the story tbh
And she bought a slave to keep all to herself. He brought yvonne back so she would be forced to depend on him, and she bought him so he would be forced to depend on him. And her “giving him everything” to manipulate him after purchasing him is not a good deed. Nothing she does for a slave she bought is goodwill except freeing them.
Him killing his people was bad. However, I’m talking specifically about his past actions towards Penelope in the conflict that they are talking about in this chapter. I don’t like his character, but seeing slave characters in this and other stories not only get unsavory plot points like the one you mentioned but get used as an antagonist to a more “noble” character leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Yeah, as I’ve said, I do see your point. Though the only reason Penelope did those things was cause of the game, and I do think she cared about him to a certain extent and tried to give him a better life. I don’t think he would have more luck with anyone else, but honestly, I hate stories wherever slavery is legal. Also, yeah, I could understand him if he hated her and tried to use her and betray her due to his disdain for her and the empire. Cause of what he did to his people, and that he acts like and believes to “love” Penelope and the action he takes towards her cause of that, yeah I can’t sympathize that much with him because of that. It makes me question him as a person overall, like if the situation was different (he wasn’t a slave) and it was any other woman would he also have such an abusive “love” towards her? I think usually those behaviors come from values.
I don’t think Penelope is a good person, but at least the things she did she did purely out of survival (and also never directly harmed anyone, she just helped people to gain their favors). I mean, she’s also basically a slave to the game and she had to gain a favor with Eclis to not die. If Eclis just used Penelope as he wanted to originally then fair enough, but everything he does is due to a twisted obsession and selfish desires, like actually believes it’s “love”. I can’t really see their reasons in the equal light.
Exactly bruh my girl just trying to live like let’s not forget this is a game in the highest difficulty mode in which she needs to gain their attention or else she’ll die no one in this story is innocent and neither is she.
Personally, I LOVE morally grey characters. She’s one of my favorite MC’s, wish more stories had FLs as cold as her. I’m so tired of them being goody-two-shoes who forgive people for the most messed up things ever. The only thing I wish was different is for her to stay single. Tbh, I don’t love Callisto, I don’t hate him either but I think an ending with her going back to her own world would be the best one. In these kind of stories even if MC wants to go back she always stay for the ML, ugh. I know “Kill the Villainess” is different but I can’t get myself into it
Period. The chances of her being slain by eclis was there too, she fully believed that if she didn't get eclis on her side yvonne will and end up dead by his hands. Yes, her actions aren't noble but it was survival. Not feeling bad for her is just...meh, she was also forced to be there and had to survive in equally harsh conditions mentally. Funny how it's so easy for cute male characters to receive sympathy even if they're murderer and twisted maniacs but the girl who never intended to harm anyone, didn't kill anyone, isn't twisted can't be given sympathy.
Yeah. Penelope HATED having to suck up to all of them, I mean so much she genuinely tried dying to escape. She’s pretty much a slave to a game. No one says she’s an angel, she’s morally grey and cold. That’s why I like her so much tho
Fr. I hope people will have an ounce of sympathy for penelope as much as they have for eclis
Dunno, already had some weirdo Eclis defender block me cause she assumed I consider, and I quote, “Penelope to be a perfect victim who can do no wrong” Even when in the og comment I quite literally said I would be fine with Eclis betraying her if it was for his own freedom and revenge of his people
Im telling you people only care about male characters. Better to not engage with them tbh they did you a favor
Tbh I don’t really like any male characters here. I wish Penelope run away alone or went back to her world. Especially I would want her to go back so bad tho I know it won’t happen
Kinda spoilers so skip if you don't wanna read. I didn't read the novel because the MTL was trash but i read in the comments that...
Penelope actually belongs to this world. This is her world. Penelope was stuck in this loop of dying and resurrecting in this timeline that her soul strayed and went to modern world. Vinter (he always loved her) brought her back. I don't think the above para is 100% true but it's at least 80% true and I left more details i don't remember. But yeah, that is to answer your question that penelope is in her own world right now.
Screw that even if it’s her world. If she kept on dying there then even more reason to go back to the modern world. She worked so hard to build a life for herself there. She got her own apartment, she got into great school and had nice friends. I would much rather have her go back, I would feel so frustrated if I suffered as much as her and finally achieved my dream just to have that taken away from me to become a slave to some messed up world. Idc if it was her world or not, I wish she went back to the modern world and the life she built there.
It doesn’t make sense that he would allow her to go free to be able to blackmail him. If she was going to get executed the next day, all he had to say if she tried to reveal their relationship is that she’s a liar who tried to sell someone else’s organs for jewelry. They could’ve just went with something like him feeling guilty that he left her because this one doesn’t really make sense given that she was going to be dead literally the next day.
He could also ask her to get close and cut her tongue out, but nooooo
Or agree with her in the front, and secretly poison her food after...
This!
I agree with both Ayaben and Sakuraruu. She obviously is going to use that to continue to blackmail him and make more trouble and chaos. He could just make sure she can't say anything when executed like the tongue or destroy the vocal cords in some way or heck just gag her with cloths to "spare" the citizens of her nonsense. Also when she had gone to fmc I was thinking why didn't they capture and torture her or when not when she entered when she left to not get suspicious with her disappearance.
From the flashbacks it seems he was more sacred of her more than his life of slavery. Like she’s so crazy, his fear seems to be som sort of conditioned response/trauma
Maybe I missed something but I don’t understand the indifference that he’s showing. When they had the talk at the cafe, Chayoung already liked him, or at least felt fondly towards him. He went around looking for him, and was angry when he believed that Gyuha had gotten someone else pregnant. Why does it seem like he doesn’t really care about Gyuha at all besides occasionally feeling left out when his memory stops at a point when he should care.
He doesn't remember caring for Gyuha. The Chanyoung we see now is the old asshole who still had many sex partners and didn't love Gyuha. So that's a few years before the chasing arc.
I should add that he had one night stands instead of sexual partners. My bad.