After reading some novel spoilers i genuinely don’t really know how to feel about her shes a victim of her environment a child who grew up with no one by her side and just left out to figure it out am not gonna deny shes a victim but she also makes other around her victims to especially the ml after the novel spoilers i wish we get his pov his life literally hell if this was me id personally end it all sooo spoilers later after both ml and fl married fl mother gets on her head in a way and demands a kid and the fl starts SA the ml in his sleep and treating him like a breeding horse more then a husband and human fl has a lot of issues like self esteem issues and confidence which stems from the environment she grew in but NOTHING justifies her sa the ml it also seems like ml been brainwashed by the former empress to protect her shit ass kids to from what i seen he really is living in hell like this dude is literally in hell and can’t catch a break in my honest opinion he’s the biggest victim here brainwashed by the former empress and then getting SA this is hell i wish on no one and idk how this relationship can even be fix.
Is anyone else getting gang stalk by tj fans because holy shit idk what twitter gc am in but my shit thats not even related to wetsand getting mass dislike for no reason i thought u guys said jo stans were obsessed with yall a girl trynna go on here to read my yaoi slop and random accounts keep following me with names like jo enthusiasts and the description some bs hating on jo if anyone else is experiencing this validate me and well created a support group for us because we fr victims now
They’ve spent like a whole week probably downvoting our shit and went rouge today after seeing we noticed it I thought we are the abusive crude fanatics tho
am confused because i haven’t even attack anyone like we getting specifically targeted like wtf
The impersonator account they made for me LMAOOOO all we did is giggle in here They got our asses posted up in some groupchat
gang same bs going on my side, they even disliked my older comments on OTHER manhwas... theres also this mf called "tj enthusiastic" who followed me, that acc is created on the SAME day as the "honest jo stan" who followed u ong
Idk if its jo or tj stans but stalking people is CRAZY behavior
It’s probably the same TJ stans but trying to frame us, they made an account with my profile picture called “Doyak hate account” or some shit to follow me plus the countless Jo accounts They brought my downvotes to a comment to 63 from like under 15 real unemployed activities they spent the entire day doing this thinking anybody gaf LMAOOOO
omg they downvoted the shit out of u to if u look at my account they went crazy style on mine
Swear to god they need to seek therapy and find real hobbies
I don’t get why they are targeting you since you’re not a Jo fan lmao they’re probably trying to make it look like WE are the ones doing it to you & start fights in the comments on both sides We were mainly Ian fans either way
It’s like they need a drama in the comment section EVERY WEEK never mind that the manhwa already ended
ily you being Ian fans…. IAN KEEPS CATCHING STRAYS FROM BOTH JO / TJ STANS IM SO FUCKING SICK OF TS
It has literally come to a point of mental illness It’s been weeks since wetsand ended, I thought the stan wars would subside but holy shit some people just can’t get over it
I do think some tj fans are ragebaiting Jo/Joian stans by flaunting the TJian endgame on their faces and jo fans are retaliating, which leads to this never-ending loop because both sides believe they’re in the right and won’t give up because they’re too prideful to admit their wrongs and take accountability. At the end of the day I wholeheartedly believe both sides should really just put their phones down instead of of resorting to stalking and cyberbullying the moment there’s someone with a slightly different opinion from them
At this point it’s not even about Tj/jo Stan’s anymore it’s normal readers vs bitches having psychosis over fictional characters
I swear We can all have opinions and/or criticize certain things but it gets to a point if people can’t have proper discussions anymore, resorting to this loser bum ass behaviour holy shit Let’s go outside people
What the fuck happened here ending was a mess and it irk me to be honest i wasn’t that much fan of jo or tj i wanted ian to kinda escape it all and be alone because thats what he needed in my opinion but the ending was a mess the whole tj and ian dates just felt like a reflection of what jo and ian did like camping stargazing etc nothing orginal as a date like cmon we couldn’t go to the beach or something i also feel like it was kinda rush like here yall go type of thing but whatever i guess
I do still wish ian would have ended alone with his passion because i don’t think getting back with your abuser was the best choice we didn’t see much growth from him and am not his fan whatsoever but i wish the manipulation and abuse was addressed and he was confronted like were all pushing 40s now we gotta grow up and confront each other about our mistakes and if tj really was all head over heels for ian he would address it and been like yeah am a shitbag and am sorry and ill get better (which wouldn’t make a difference but atleast the elephant in the room was addressed) this felt like some bullshit like hey we needed this 20 year old man to teach a 30 year old man what healthy relationships is for said 30 year old to go back to his weird abusive situationship of like what 20 years (correct me if I’m am wrong) and just beam boom bam get back together insane bullshit it felt honestly pointless like okay yes let’s recycle those dates. jo did have his times he tick me off because he was needy like a dog sometimes but i personally hate needy people but he did have his heart on the right place and was better then the old man who broke ian leg put his ass on debt and stop him from doing his passion ending felt rush and just a recycle reflection of jo and ian like man this was really our wetsand
Lmaooo they’re disliking your shit just like they keep going through my account to dislike YEARS OLD comments I didn’t even notice until recently these bitches have no jobs
Legit such pussys and they always on some jo stans obsessed with them mf ur making constant accounts to follow me like legit get a job
Same gng We ain’t even Jo stans these mfs are on a hardcore schizo trip They’re madder than they should be for people who claim to be happy about the ending LMAOOOO imagine going thru our accounts 24/7 and we didn’t even notice until now
So much for TJ stans being poor misunderstood fans and not toxic or chronically online at all huh
They love to make themselves victims and then be the mfs harrasing others like is never this serious blame the author for recycling jo and ian whole relationship and stuffing into tj last minute
LMAOOOOO did you get raided with both likes and dislikes again too these mfs are JOBLESS
Same
They went through my old comments to mass dislike them.
There was an entire multiple day long weave of them doing this to us They made accounts of me and Fumiii also + countless other accounts to make Jo fans look bad and followed us on them just jobless behaviour
Such fucking losers
If whats going around is true am genuinely going to blow my brains out i do not get down like this Kill everyone me especially 3 bullets in the head how tf THE CHEMISTRY WASNT EVEN THERE IT WAS JUST TJ TRYNNA KEEP THE LIGHTS ON WHILE A ITALIAN MF TOOK HIS BITCH AND YOURE TELLING ME THAT IAN POTENTIALLY PERCHANCE Perhaps STILL CHOOSE TO GO BACK TO THE HOUSE AND KEEP THE LIGHTS ON WITH TJ!? This better be some drug induced euphoric dream tj having inside that prison cell because i do not play and i will not play!
I geniuely will blow my shit smooth off if ian magically ends up with tj tj the worst choice possible is like relapsing into doing drugs!!!
Tj genuinely not a yearner just a asshole he didn’t yearn like jo because jo was outside on the dark nyc streets taking pictures of this beautiful man on his fire escape yearning for glimpses and a conversation he wanted that COOKIE BADDD!! tj had the cookie and stomp on it and abuse it and then when someone else wants the cookie he now also wants it back bad u miss ur chance bozo!!! jo was out here knocking and staying even when ian push him away and even now that ian just riding into the sunset and leaving he didn’t beg for him to stay he wish him the best and to continue and choose the best for him if this was tj he cripple ian ass one more time and tie him down again THAT MAN NOT A YEARNER!!!!!!!!!!
And people always in this comments especially tj stans talking about some this is fictional yaoi u guys take this seriously NEW GENS if u actually enjoy yaoi u physically become emotionally involved in the story like i want whats better for the character not just mindless abuse and sex
anyways i wish tj was a apple snail so i could flip that mf upside down and throw spects of salt on him while is like the most humid and hot day outside i dont play about my hatred for that man!!
Love you gng came back with a banger comment Saying what everyone else is afraid of saying
Someone who hates TU as much as me, its so refreshing. I went to check comments on Twitter and wow his stans are insufferable.
Twitter + TikTok make me wanna spoon my eyes out like no way anyone who is sane and mentally stable thinks tj deserves Ian. Tj hate is what I live for since day 1
So true!! the way they are convinced its some epic love is beyond because how the hell is that love. The obsession with struggle love needs to be studie
Same been hating since day 1
I actually mentioned this before in a WS discussion on tiktok if Wet Sand weren’t a manhwa but a novel with no visual storytelling, I wonder if people would still like TJ’s character. In books, writers have to be very specific and descriptive about characters emotions and actions to help readers fully understand, feel and imagine the story.
Exactly! I doubt they would, and I can guarantee if Ian had met TJ and Jo at the same time, Jo would be more popular. TJ stans are very fixated on their 19-year history, that’s why they can make every justification under the sun no matter what that man does.
Which is like so annoying 19 year history of abuse and enduring shit he shouldn’t have to endure if tj really love him. Tj always me me me and never about ian is always stay for ME or ill tie you down and make you stay for me buying houses that no one ask for and never listening to ian and what he wants if he really love ian that day he was going to leave he would have let him and not done what he did to prevent ian from following his dreams!! i honestly hated when he cut his hair and came back like “guess whose back from jail!!” like what manipulation tactic is this cutting ur hair to a specific time where ian only had u to rely on ugh!
Exactly! You said it perfectly. TJ stans are so convinced their relationship is so deep and complex but all it actually is, is emotional abuse, manipulation,, love bombing, gaslighting and toxicity. TJ is an insufferable narcissist
i see more than once, people come in here rooting for TJ without reading the story...like girl where you fromm??!!
there a lot people start reading ws like that...i read a lot mafia stuff and he is suck in many way lol without smut i dont think he going to survive...i dont like a manchild (emotionally immature) character
Yes and he is so arrogant, He is the most annoying and mostly ugly. I cant take a gangster named TJ seriously. That like the least intimidating gangster name in the history of gangster names.
I got twitter again but Jeez its so annoying how many TJ stans there are and they are analyzing the story in a very obvious manner when Doyak said it would not be obvious.
dyk is like to play with us...just read and analyzing is hard enough...im not going to read that side of a fandom analyzed..lol ..my brain cannot take it ...dont wasted your time MsManhwa babe..i think the EG reveal is going to be the last chapter... ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Lol they probably just saw a random video on TikTok. Soc media sometimes makes content out of context for its own agenda.
Fr some smut scenes are really unnecessary for the plot and sometimes it’s just for fan service.
I think it whould end the way it started with them looking at each like the balcony scene and then smiling at each other. (No conversation, just the eyes talkin) I think it would be such a powerful scene
To me this story isnt about Ian falling in love with someone new but actually discovering what love is and I think thats why TJ stans have this belief TJIAN will he end game because of the focus on their relationship. You can't call what Ian and TJ have love because its rooted in such negative emotions, and love is not a negative emotion and if TJ is all Ian has known, how can that be love. He doesn't have any bonds with any one else. TJ is is friend, lover and family and that is so sad.
BUT
I view it differently. I think Doyak is showing us all of this because its not easy to just end a 20 year relationship (situationship in this case) easily but its not impossible.
And its funny how they believe because its 19 years it makes it stronger. NO! its actually even more sad because one person has been unhappy and miserable that long and they really think its out of love and not habit.
This is Ians story and the influence Jo and fugly face have in his life. Its not just another love story but sometimes it seems that is all TJ stans reduce his character "TJs love interest"
I think dyk already showed the EG but not confirming yet, chap 98 is pseudo breakup with Ian confession of love to Jo and Jo also wanted to confess his love for Ian but chose not to say it. They can’t twist what is CANON that JoIan love each other.
Yes yes yes! and I dont see any of them being worried about the symbolism of ian being free and tj going to prison. There is so much symbolism there. They just think tj is going to prison and will reunite with Ian after a time skip.
Lol you know that side...they will not take anything except it been spoonfeed them...if Jolan don't get married in the last chapter they still think TJ has a chance
Bro they are so delusional even if JoIan get married they wont believe Ian loves Jo.
I saw a tweet by them the other day. It so tiring honestly.
Basically the tweet was about how TJ and Ian could joke about the time both them were with other people but Ian can never joke about TJ with Jo because he would feel insecure.
Ugh they make so mad. I am deleting that app. Those TJ stans are everywhere like a plague.
Yeah, Ian and TJ will meet for sure for final closure after Ian’s self-healing journey. I mean they are still important for each other, let’s not erase that. I think they’re looking at the color symbolism like the “yellow” as for TJ but personally, I think the yellow color for TJ is for promotional purposes but not in the story. I often see the yellow color in Jo’s panels a lot. And compared to Jo and Ian’s eyes dyk always highlighted their eyes’ color blue and purple.
Yeah they definitely need to meet for closure, but not reunite in a sense that they will get back together.
Oh they know deep down and maybe some are still clouded by their own biases and hate for Jo. I’ve seen a few tj stan on x who already gave up because they care for tj’s character and they don’t want to invalidate Ian’s feeling and JoIan’s love
FACTS.
OMG HER LIP COMBO IS INSANE WHATEVER GLOSS SHE USING FR POPPING aside from her being so evil and awful that one glimpse of her young
HES YEARNER GUYS HES NOT DELUSIONAL i scream as they drag me into the asylum.
BWAHAHAHAHA THIS GOT ME SO GOOD
Two things can be true at the same time
WHOEVER WAS SPREADING MISINFORMATION SAYING THIS ANGEL MF IS LIKE THE DUDE FROM INTO THE DOGHOUSE COUNT YOUR DAYS RICHARD A ABSOLUTE DIRTY DOWN TO THE BONE FREAK BUT HE AINT THIS TYPE OF FREAK THIS WHOLE MANGA IS FREAK OFFS WHO CAN BE FREAKIER
“dirty down to the bone freak” HELPPPPP YOU CANT GET AWAY WITH THISSS LMFAOOOO
no lube, no protection, all night all day, from the kitchen floor to toilet seat, from dining table to church, while i gasp for air and scream the lord's prayer, Luciano can top me
This was not spoiler
No pls why was this the funniest thing ever
The story is so cute and cozy the newest chapter is specially nostalgic my mom retells to me my first day at kindergarten i was apparently so happy and excited to play that i didn’t realize when she slip away later when it was pick up time i realized she was gone and cry my eyes out anyways happy mother day to ryder and miria lol