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What do you mean? He was a young man at the beginning, when he came back from the war and take Chung-hee back, he was a grown ass man and that's when the smut begins. There's no part where the smut happening when he was a minor. ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Media literacy is dead lmao. Like Smooth said, he was 17 for like the first what.. 10 -15 chapters? The smut only begins after the several year time skip. He's like 25 at this time.
Y'all should learn to read and think before just being reactionary.

There are clearly scenes of him masturbating and being sexually attracted to her at the very first chapters in which he is a minor.

Also, i stopped the story after that, so how would i know he turns into an adult at the later chapters?(not that it makes it any better) Know what media literacy means before you use the word lmao.

There are literally scenes of him masturbating and being sexually suggestive with the adult heroine before he goes to the war. She also had a wet dream imagining him while he was a minor Just because there's no penetrative sex, it doesn't make it any better.

You can't say I'm using a word wrong when you're just proving me right lmao. "I stopped reading" ... Yes that's exactly what I mean, you stopped reading and made an assumption for the rest of the story you didn't even read.
That is by definition, an issue of media literacy.

Rewording your comment and it's be "I stopped reading immediately but I'm angry the entire story does xyz"

And your two examples are, a DREAM and him doing something in private, that all people do.
Your purity culture bullshit is showing.

Also why are you so mad over something you aren't even reading. Drop it and move on.

This is also a story set in a time thousands of years before our own. You cannot push modern day values on a historical setting. She also is only a few years older than him.
17 was an adult at the time of this setting. He was in war for god sake.
If he can kill hundreds, he can masturbate to a woman he likes lmao

Since Bunni blocked me because they can't handle debate:

Now, let's use our heads, especially you who is not a "smooth brain" that is apparently lacking media literacy like me. Why would i continue reading a story, after coming across a chapter with the sexualisation of a minor, with the adult character being affected and having a wet dream about them? The very thing i criticise, already happened. What would be the point of continuing the story and gaining more context? There's no misunderstanding over what was viewed from the very first chapters. I'm not sorry over expressing my discomfort just because it discomforts you, to the point that you chose to indirectly insult me.
Yes, seeing a minor sexualised and paired with an adult (who was btw shown to be attracted and affected with the minor's sexual courting), not even in a subtle historical way for the story telling, is making me uncomfortable. I don't care if it doesn't make you uncomfortable. It makes me. And i should be free to express that without randos like you attacking me.

Also no the "thousands years before us" excuse lmao. The readers are modern and the story is NOT historically accurate. It's pure fantasy. The choice to not sexualise an adult with a minor is right there lol

So concluding yes, you have no idea what media literacy means Bunni. Leave the big words for people that can use them.

The way that no one even insulted you. You admitted you barely read it. He's not 17 for 99% of the story.
You're free to leave a comment in the same way we are allowed to respond and correct you.
Someone sounds pissy, you say you don't care but you went out of your way to delete shit and edit your comment.
just drop it and move on big baby lmao. For someone who doesn't care that much... You seem to care a lot lmao.

"I'm not here to moral police but here's how I think this story is immoral and gross"
Babes, just move on lmao.
I blocked you bc I wasn't interested in having a back and forth with someone who just wants to insult and rage in a comment thread. And hey you proved me right!
You've gotta be 12 with this stomp your feet and get mad you were corrected attitude lmao.

Media literacy is "the ability to encode and decode the symbols transmitted via media and synthesize, analyze and produce mediated messages."
We can use our thinking caps to see that this is a story set in a different time, with different rules and social expectations on what an adult is and the roles they play. This is a world in which when you can go to war, you're considered an adult. He is a character that is of high status and goes to war at 17/18.
Then we DONT SEE HIM AGAIN for several years. In which he is an adult.
If you don't like that there were some scenes to create tension in the beginning... Guess what!! You DON'T have to read it!
You also don't have to insult and berate those that have corrected you.
I have never insulted you, I have only corrected the information you said yourself you didn't have and got wrong.
If it bothers you that someone corrects your misinformation, so much that you talk down to them like children and insult them?
Don't comment on things, and maybe grow TF up. This is childish behavior.
If you feel insulted now, you should lol. I may not insult first but I'm no door mat. Grow up and move on. I've blocked you so I won't get any more notifications so you can stomp your feet and cry as much as you like but I'm moving on

"The way no one insulted you" Oh please, saying i lack media literacy because my opinion makes you uncomfortable is an insult.

And oh the irony lmao
I love how you conveniently ignore my words and build a sweet little narrative that fits you. Then again, that is to be expected considering you blocked me hoping i wouldn't be able to reply, as you shared your drivel.
I mean, you want to prove a point however you can't handle anything said against it. You don't want to have to explain yourself. As you said, you want to "correct" but never be corrected.

Calling me a 12 year old, when you literally had to block me to hold yourself back from replying, then despite that, still coming back is hilarious. Peak comedy even.

And no, why should i move on and give you any form of gratification? You chose to engage, come back and make yourself uncomfortable.

And since when was explaining my perspective moral policing?

Did i call any of the readers who disagree with me immoral? Did i psychoanalyse anyone, speak of their personal life, judge them based on their fictional taste? Are we just throwing words around now?

If my view hurts you, it's on you.

I don't force you to adopt my view. Just like how i don't force you to reply to me.


So, that point aside, by your logic, despite the story being literally fantasy and being historically inaccurate in every other degree, it is conveniently historically accurate on the age. Yeah, okay lmao
So, if a 16 year old or younger was forced to go to war in the story, would your logic apply again, to all the points you made?. The author purposely created a sexual narrative, with explicit scenes and sexual innuendos that have the sole purpose to be engaging, the way a smut can be engaging. Even if the author kept the age, they could have avoided adding this scenes.
A 17 year old purposely sexualised is uncomfortable to me.
A teen "hardened" by war doesn't stop being a teen and in a fantasy story, that doesn't even bother to keep anything else historically accurate, his age was nothing but a personal choice. Not a "needed" historical accuracy.


And once again, i had all the information i needed.
The thing i personally find uncomfortable, hasalready happened.
The fact that they have sex after he becomes an adult, doesn't change what has already happened lmao
You don't need further context in this, it's literally not misunderstanding that was subtly indicated, which in that case, i would have continued the story to reach a proper conclusion.

It's like me telling you "i don't like the story because i don't like the story because i hate rotten apples" and you replying with "You lack media literacy because the rotten apple turns into soil later in the story and becomes useful". My problem, is the rotten apple, so why would it matter if it turns into soil or even freaking gold later?

Hope this cleared that up. In case it didn't, refer to point 1, 2 and 3 i made (that's the sole reason i made them, so that i don't have to repeat my self as you predictably drag yourself back here lol. I still did though, but oh well...).

Also, i never said i don't care if you force your opinion upon me and proceed to insult my literacy.I even made it clear that i will yap.
What i said is that i don't care if you don't find the story uncomfortable.
Soooo,
media literacy was it? lol

Sorry not sorry my view makes you uncomfortable.
It won't disappear, it will keep on existing, making you seethe. Whether my points sink in or not, matters not at this point.

After all, i don't expect someone who came here to "correct" to ever legitimately debate. (tbh i came to the conclusion when you block, but i wanted to see if you'd come back lmao.)

Have fun getting annoyed, small baby (i'm the big baby, naturally you'd be the small one).

Oh and i forgot to ask: What exactly did i delete? Are you really that crippled in your ability to logically debate, that you'd go as far as lying? lmao

If I have to scroll more than three full times to read your full response... You clearly are butthurt as hell. The one seething and annoyed here .. is YOU. Clearly.
Writing whole novels in the comments instead of just .. dropping and moving on lol.

Yes, you are the big baby, we all can see that lmao
Glad you're aware and take ownership of that.

Good luck out there Big Baby

" I won't get any more notifications so you can stomp your feet and cry as much as you like but I'm moving on"

Oh, you came back? lol
Why are you doing this to yourself Bunni?

Nah, I was just curious how you'd respond.
Didn't expect you to admit you were being a big baby. Couldn't help but congratulate you on that progress
It's ok Big Baby. You'll grow up one day

I really hold you from the nose and can make you come back whenever i want. Like a doggo. Will you bark for me some more?

What a weird sexual thing to say when you're complaining about smut. You're edging into sexual harassment at this point. Don't ever say that shit again. Disgusting

the fact you're just getting super gross in your responses tell me you're the one who's being obsessive. Being blocked is a pretty big "leave me tf alone" but since you started making this sexual, it's clear you don't know shit about boundaries.

I spent yesterday having dinner with friends and packing for my week long trip, didn't think about you once.

What's wrong Big Baby?
You lost all ground to stand on when you self admitted to being a Big Baby. Like damn that's still so fucking funny. Only a Big Baby thinks calling themselves that is a win.
Grow up big and strong Big Baby. I know you can do it

Sexual? lmao You're barking at the wrong tree bunni.

Either way, this is getting exhausting ( you have nothing original to say) aka fruitless for me. I'm gonna stop engaging.
But thanks for the entertainment. (unlike you i'll keep my word).

Ok Big Baby lol.
You say this isn't entertaining but wow I've never seen anyone call THEMSELVES "a big baby" as a gotcha lmaoo

You say you can handle insults yet here you are... Only able to call me a small baby lmaooo
You're hilarious Big Baby.

Also technically did keep my word bc you decided to no longer actually have a productive conversation with another person about something YOU ADMITTED YOU DIDN'T READ so I just decided to troll ya

Telling someone to bark for you is def a sexual comment btws. Learn to think

u're clearly not in a sound mind to discuss this so we don't get ur point at all. some minors have crushes, it's realistic that way albeit w him masturbating lyk come on teenagers are horny peps. it's not like he was groomed or had a relationship w her at his age. anw that's on u if u don't like that kind of setting tbh, i just replied here because ur reason sounds dumb. let's say she's attracted to him (wc i think is wrong based on modern moral standards) but having that kind of dream is not controllable on her part unless it's imagination right? that would be more intentional. dream is dream, be open to criticism because u might mistake your grand idealism for ignorance.

"be open to criticism because u might mistake your grand idealism for ignorance."
Goes fucking Hard lmao.
You're 1000% right but this kid won't listen.

My reasoning is pretty clear. You didn't get what i meant because you don't actually want to understand (maybe cognitive dissonance?). Not because what i wrote isn't comprehensible. The author showing an explicit scene of a minor beating it, isn't to show a casual scene over how teens behave for the sake of "realism". It's a scene added for the entertainment of readers in a smut manhwa. Or it wouldn't be explicit at all. If it didn't have that purpose, it would be insinuated or not added at all.(not to mention that in a historically unrealistic manhwa, which already made plenty historically inaccurate concessions, adding his age to be a minor, was nothing but a choice by the author, not something that realism demands). Also claiming that the dream wasn't placed for the sake of smut storytelling, but was instead included purely to portray a psychologically realistic, uncontrollable dream, is just playing dumb lol.

Do take your own advice. Be open to criticism if you are here to criticise, instead of demanding for others to accept your own view.

"dream is dream, be open to criticism because u might mistake your grand idealism for ignorance"
Grand idealism? Let us normalise using words the correct way, what grand idealism Careful, because you might mistake sounding profound, for actually saying something profoundBut worry not, i don't mistake my alleged grand idealism for ignorance. I have a healthy self esteem (i wouldn't call myself idealistic though lmao).

Oof, considering i spend so much time writing comments that explain my reasoning in detail, i'm not going to do that again. Seeing how you've chosen to start your paragraph, you're not here for a discussion, but to be condescending like the other commenter here, who started this in the first place(they received what they gave). Further engaging with you, would be stupid.
I already did far more than i should by re explaining all that shit. So i'm not going to engage in a second fruitless discussion.
Have fun reading the story, i'm not here to hold you back.

I don't even read the story, but I like how you pointed out out the context. I never seen people pointed it out.

Sure it's realistic for a teen to have a wet dream. But this is a fiction and the author is the creator. author can choose to show a teen having a wet dream and also choose not to do it. if it's supposed to be a realistic take, a social commentary, a biography, then sure it's not sus. but this is a freaking fiction for the sake of entertainment, so there's no reason to be realistic. there's only what author choose to portray and present to readers.

it's a fiction so whatever, and 17 is almost legal, but it's OK for someone to point out that the author CHOOSE to do this, not because it's realistic, but because of something else. (and bc this is smut story you know, ofc it's for that purpose).

I just don't know why people try to defend author and saying this is not what it is. i like reading hardcore smut. but it's sad to see other people won't admit that what they read isn't morally okay in real life. it's freaking fiction, don't worry your real life moral isn't the same as your taste in fictional media. anyway it feels like you're arguing with someone with a "good child" syndrome.

I mean they can just say, "well it's only that one scene, and we don't dwell on it, while the rest of the story is fire" and move on instead of making excuse.

not related but that's also why I often get uncomfortable when I read romance with teenagers getting freaky, because although they're both teens with no age gap (green flag story) but I am an adult reading teens getting freaky and then realizing the writer also adults writing about teens getting freaky. So i usually avoid story like that. and it's just a personal choice. it's suck if ramdom stangers say that's i am being a moral police just because I have different taste. My usual smut read is actually freakier. and I don't mind if people pick on that. tbh your first comment is really funny to me, although it's not entirety of the story but who expect a summary and fact in comment? comments are mostly opinions

Thank you. Exactly. Your comment restored my faith in humanity lol

The "moral police" accusations were incredibly absurd to me, especially when i didn't attack any reader over their morals. If anything, my taste in fiction is pretty dark as well, however stories with minors/smut are simply uncomfortable to me, and i expressed that. Instead of people getting what i'm saying, the comments i got were pure condescension, all because they felt "victimised" by my personal trigger It's my trigger and i explained the logic behind it (only because the situation warranted it).
Then they had the gal to act insulted when i returned the energy(although, i'm not gonna lie, it was fairly pointless after the first few entertaining responses i got).

The fact that i had to explain again and again that i don't care if this doesn't make anyone else uncomfortable, was insane.
Not to mention the demands to accept what THEY believe as the "ultimate truth", all because my view somehow personally affects them. Like, it's not my problem they started projecting their insecurities over morality. My opinion wasn't meant to psychoanalyse them at all

Also,yeah i made my first comment insanely long, because i got tired of repeating the same thing, so it saved me time lmao