Okay... Was that last chapter for real or was it a chapter I was *programmed* to read and believe is real? (⊙…⊙ )
Who am I? Where am I? My reality is... (╯°Д °)╯╧╧
This webtoon really racks my brain thinking of various theories but excites me nonetheless. I can't help but keep reading and anticipate for the next mindf*ck. Am I a masochist or what? ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
I know he's innocent and they say when you're in trouble, it's okay to ask for help... But not with that! Σ(っ°Д °;)っ
Okay, okay, I need to calm down. It may have no malice at all and his intentions are pure, but I still don't like it especially when they're just starting over...
Personally, I wouldn't fully appreciate my partner being good at intimate stuff because he practiced with someone else when he already has me (he probably wouldn't practice with me because it'd defeat the purpose of showing his skills).
Oh well, as long as it stops with that one practice make out session and he becomes honest about it while preparing for whatever possibility, then I'm fine. I guess with the uke's previous situation, he'd be more open-minded about this.
Think positive! Ha Ree must've been left alive for a reason... to kill the President.
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Two obsessed women killing each other over Ha Jin while the wife waits to get him all for herself (with Chicken boy on booty call).
I laughed at your comment. Funny ;)
I know the 3rd couple's story (Amon's tattoos look hot!) has just started, but as I browsed the Chinese scans, I'm really excited to read about the 4th couple which features Rinka's older brother as the seme! He looks kind and gentle (and seems to have been fascinated by the uke's legs since they met years ago), plus it's a reencounter of a younger seme x older uke couple. (...and they actually used a LUBE!) :3
Also, I first thought this manga will focus on Aya x Shingyouji, but I'm happy with all the chapters dedicated to Rinka x Yakushiji. Honestly, Rinka's the type I dislike (guy who manipulates women and sleeps around a lot), but I really liked how he confessed that he'll make up for the nine years he slept around, by only loving Yakushiji for the next nine years until he believes his love. I mean, with his type, I can really say, "Serves you right, karma's a bummer! You made a fool out of those women, now it's your turn to suffer." I really liked how Yakushiji didn't give in to him immediately and made him put more effort into proving his sincerity since a lot of women still clung onto him. Yakushiji's weak yet strong, and that's so much better than those the typical naive uke. Anyway, I just really liked them. I think I have a soft spot for <Younger Seme x Older Uke> couples. ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
That's why that woman should've been reported to the police before and requested for a restraining order. Haru was being too kind believing there won't be a second time (and surely it wasn't a second time on Ren), but she definitely went wild again. >_<
I'm not sure what exactly will happen to Haru after that accident, but Ren would surely suffer again because of it. That, and perhaps Kodaka-sensei's already moving along his revenge plot against Ren. I hope he hangs on well. Why's Ren always being pushed around by people? Stop bothering him, he's still adapting to society! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ
"Am I also serious? In the past, I would have these cheap misunderstandings with someone who appears to be my type. But from the beginning, this has been interesting. It felt like a game. However, this time, when tears pour out for my sake, I can't help but think Ryuuji is cuter. <I love you, Ryuuji.> It's not a lie. Right now, I really love Ryuuji. I've fallen in love. However, the end came too quickly. <This is the end. I'm tired of this.> Somehow, I predicted this. <...Say something.> <What can I say to make you satisfied?> *slap* What could have been said at this time? Ryuuji didn't want it, there was no other way. That day, inside me, will always be the 'memory' of Ryuuji.
"However, I couldn't do it. I remember all of Ryuuji and compare it. No matter how many years pass, I look back to the same thing. Ryuuji's smile, the shape of his fingertips, the way his eyelashes cast shadows on his cheeks, and the warmth of his body when I held him... Why those times I couldn't let go of them with my hands. It's already been five years. Has he changed? Once again, we start from the beginning. Should I smile? Ryuuji, this time, there won't be any mistakes. There are my own feelings..."
Why I disliked the seme:
- He went out with the uke with half-hearted feelings.
- He cheated on the uke with women, and didn't think it was that big of a deal back then because he wasn't serious about the uke. (He only realized that he must've fallen for the uke when he finally snapped and soon decided to leave him.)
- He lied about Ryuu the cat being their exclusive secret. (C'mon, I bet the uke felt a bit happy that they shared a secret between them only to find out the next day that their female co-worker actually takes care of it, too. She's even allowed to come and go his apartment with the cat as an excuse.)
- Above all, he only apologized for his past behavior when he saw the key and realized that the uke still cherished him after all these years. "It was bad to make you feel that way. I'm sorry." That's it! He was very passive in their relationship.
Pain? Heartbreak? Agony? He must've felt miserable after that time, taking in a pitiful cat in the middle of the rain to sub for the guy who left him when it was also raining. But did he even do anything at all to redeem himself? No. Even when they reunited, he acted nonchalantly, and when he felt that he still affected the uke in some ways, he used it as a chance to get him back.
I wish we were at least given more glimpses during the 5-year separation to see how the seme changed. Did he date others after they broke up, but somehow those didn't work and he became single just in time when the uke came back? Or did he take the break up as a chance for him to become a better person, (clinging only to the cat to make up for hurting the uke) so he never dated anyone again in hopes to meet the uke in the future? I'd like to delude myself and believe it's the latter, but I wouldn't really know. He never even cared to look for the uke, apologize, and ask for a chance to prove himself trustworthy again. He simply assumed that the uke will not take him back anymore because he got tired of his whims.
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"That person monopolized me. I was the only one who gave myself. But still... That time, I really loved that person. Even after we said goodbye, I still kept that key. It was painful and many times, I've wanted to throw it away but couldn't do it. It's a part of me I have to carry, and there's nothing I can do about it. Right now, there's nothing that can save me. I know I can't go anywhere. But still, that b*st*rd hurt me! If only that person always loved me, then I wouldn't have tried to forget these past five years. But then we meet again as if by chance. However... D*mnit! Why does this all have to get dredged up?
"...How did I end up like this? ...He said it like that, but Baba-san's face looks so happy. But this person... When did this person have such kind eyes? My memories of him are different. It's kind of unsettling. <A secret just for the two of us.> Keep it together, Ryuuji. Do I realize that five years have passed? That man was just after my body. I love him but it's just too painful. However... If he's changed from the past..? If that's the case...
"It's painful. He always puts me against this wall. <Ryuuji.> One, just one certainty. <Please, stop this...> <I won't stop.> And, in the end, he steals my heart. <Ryuuji, I haven't forgotten you either.> Those words, shake down the last of my reserve. I can't stop this again? <Ryuuji.> Hey, Baba-san, this is cruel. What am I doing? I had fallen again. I'm such an idi*t... <Please. Just for a moment, can I have a chance?> <A chance?> What? <Yes.> That look. It's not the Baba-san I know. Is he serious? Should I believe him?
"<In the past, you could just give some random speech to satisfy someone. Did you think your lies only hurt? Did you even think about that?!> <...Ryuuji.> <Baba-san... Just don't go anywhere, and stay with me. Even if you lie, it's okay.> ... <Don't let me go.> Five years ago, I should have said those words, but my st*pid pride got in the way. It's taken me to reunite again to realize the meaning of those words. But right now, I'll blame it on the fever. Right now, I'm entirely not myself. I'm only existing within the core of my heart. <I love you. I love you so much.> I'm so in love with you!"
Why I disliked the uke:
- He was very weak. There is a limit to martyrdom, you know? The way he said that he doesn't care even if the seme lies, as long as he stays with him pissed me off. I get that this happens in real life, too. Like, when someone falls too deeply in love that they would endure their lover having affairs as long as they won't be completely abandoned. I had hopes for him, because he actually had the courage to break it off with the seme after being cheated on, despite being so in love with him 5 years ago. So why did he become even weaker 5 years later? How could he just accept the seme again when he suffered all those years clinging on that love? How could he melt just by seeing the seme's changed expression when he didn't even do anything else for him? I mean, what did he even do? He simply gave him back the key and let him decide if he'd take him back when he already felt and knew how much the uke still loved him (He realized this after seeing his key, didn't he?).
Hmm, how do I say it? I dislike cheating, but I can tolerate it if I can see that the cheater actually showed remorse or suffered from his act, and proved his sincerity before getting back together with that lover.
I liked the art, though, and I really liked the main plot (See how I even extracted a lot of their lines because they give out certain feeling.). I just hoped that after their separation, they really learned their lesson and changed. After all, there is no perfect relationship. People need to learn from their mistakes, grow up, and prove their partner how much they changed and are willing to do better things so as not to repeat the same mistake.
On second thought, it may be regarded that the seme didn't actually cheat because they weren't really dating or something. I mean, since the seme wasn't serious, it could just be a sexual relationship on his POV (That's why he was casual with other girls, too.), though the uke thought they're exclusive because the seme told him he loved him. Hmm, either way, it was disrespectful to the uke since he wasn't clearly aware of their real status and he's been played.
Why do peeps like doing lectures on yaoi so much?
I can't speak about the others, but personally, I like putting my thoughts out so it'll be easier for me to remember what I thought and how I felt when I read a specific story because I reread a lot. I also like it because people can share their thoughts, whether positive or negative, and it helps me see the story from a different perspective and I learn more.
It's not mandatory to read every comment users post, but there may be others, like me, who look for posts that discuss what they thought about the story after reading (though I admit that I also "fangirl" a lot of times). ^_^
I agree! I'm the type that loves to formulate mile long analysis on anything and everything! LOL, and most definitely on Yaoi stories. I also looove the multitudinous comments here, the funny ones, the serious ones, the complaints, etc. etc. because for me the variety of comments make the community so much more lively and interesting. I do admit that some comments piss me off, and others I disagree with, but I still appreciate them from an objective perspective because like I said, that's what makes this community so much fun!
I really liked your analysis and Im totally agree with everything you said. I ended up very pissed off with the MCs.
Okay, there are a lot of adorable moments in this manga, but I just can't get over the interaction between Kazushi and the twins. I especially loved these pages:
When he was so touched to see the twins draw him a portrait...
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/saa_koi_ni_ochitamae/mf/v03/c007.3/29/
When he came back from America to visit...
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/saa_koi_ni_ochitamae/mf/v03/c008/12/
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Before reading, I was put off when I saw comments on how the seme agrees to date the uke's older sister when things don't work out. To me, it's like he'll be fine being in another relationship right away since he has a "reserve lover." I was also hesitant because it seems like a lot of people are mad at the uke for being too tsundere. But anyway, I decided to check it out myself, and I understood the comments better.
While reading, I realized that the seme could actually be the type I like, being persistent and crazily in love. I liked how he dealt with Ishikawa's tendency to push him away by doing something that will make Ishikawa come to him on his own. However, I was kinda turned off when Yamaguchi nonchalantly agreed to date the Hitomi (uke's sister) when things don't work out for them. He even told Ishikawa that he thought it wouldn't be so bad being with her because they resembled each other and she's very easy to talk to. In this case, before Ishikawa can actually react too negatively, he said that the incident only made him (Yamaguchi) reconfirm his love for Ishikawa, because even if they're similar, he prefers him over her. I guess that's alright, after all, with Ishikawa's actions towards Yamaguchi, one would really feel insecure. I'd have to say Yamaguchi is pretty patient/persistent enough to stick with him until he got used to Ishikawa's antics. I just really got pissed with the idea of him having a "reserve lover."
As for Ishikawa, yeah, he's definitely tsundere, but a bit over the top at times. I get that he's embarrassed and shy because he can't keep up with Yamaguchi's lovey dovey attitude, but he pushed him away too much only to be the one more affected. Like, when he kept claiming they're only sex friends and they should both see other people. Even though Yamaguchi only did what Ishikawa demanded, he was still badly affected. Oh, and I felt sorry for Yamaguchi when he was being insecure because Ishikawa never told him he liked him (even if they had sex, since Ishikawa kept saying they're just sex friends before, he' still unsure if he can interpret it as his expression of love). Then he intentionally hangs out and be happy with girls while making Yamaguchi jealous. I mean, Yamaguchi's already insecure as it is, then he'd even be treated like that? Aww, sucks to be him. I know Ishikawa can't trust him because of his womanizer past (I'm not fond of playboys myself.), but why can't he see that ever since they've been together, he's been very loyal and devoted to him (This is what really matters after all.)?
Anyway, despite the rollercoaster ride, towards the end, I was happy since Yamaguchi basically got used to Ishikawa's tsundere act and he felt more secured. It would've been better if Ishikawa became a bit more honest with words though, since sometimes, actions can be more reassuring with sincere words.
TLDR; They're both at fault, so I can't just blame the seme or the uke for being the way they were. I just hope that the seme proves his faithfulness until the end, because if it were me, I won't be able to forget his remark about dating my sister (I'd definitely be paranoid thinking they'd get it on once I make a mistake.). I also hope that the uke stop being too violent and stop being too spoiled, because the seme won't always know what he's truly thinking if he won't say what's on his mind.
I agree with you on everything you said. Both characters were flawed, and they had their issues that should be sorted out.
In my opinion though, it wasn't so much that Yamaguchi was putting the sister as a reserve, so much as it was just a thought. Sometimes when you're going through a slump in a relationship, one starts to wonder "Hmm...I wonder what it would be like if me and '..' were together instead" this isn't them being an asshole or a player. It's merely a pensive thought - a what if scenario basically - where he decided that no he's not interested in the end.
That wasfurther proved by his loyalty towards Ishikawa throughout the years.
What I do find kind of sad though, was how they had been together for a couple years but Ishikawa has yet to trust Yamaguchi. That must be tiresome for both people in a relationship. I had hoped that they would have at least grown as people and fleshed out their relationship over the years, but it appears that very little had changed in the short epilogue. Oh well ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Why did it end already? I was looking forward to how their relationship progressed while living together... I mean, they wasted 7 (or 8? I forgot, sorry) years to get over that "traumatizing sight" and reunite as lovers...
I wanted to see Megumu top Ryuuji more because he seemed so innocently sexy, being less experienced than Megumu. (Ah, I remembered him practically begging for Megumu to come on his face.. Aww, he's so adorable!) It's refreshing because we usually have the seme being super dominant or rough..
It was so cute whenever Ryuuji spotted Megumu wearing his ring, too! It just made him feel more reassured that he's being loved despite Megumu's tsundere tendencies. :3
I've been seriously watching out for new chapters because I'm too eager to know what happens next! This webtoon is really interesting and entertaining, considering that I have quite strayed from Hetero/Shoujo after becoming a fujoshi. (￣∇￣")
I really like the characters and how they approach even serious situations. There's a right amount of romance, comedy, and mystery. With regards to the love interests, I can see the potential of both sides but I can't completely board on either ship yet... especially because Hanmi is such a rare catch. ε=ε=(ノ≧∇≦)ノ
Now I just want to reread, hoping that by the time I'm done, a new chapter comes up.
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