I've got a question, for the real freaks out there. Is urethral sounding really that common in rough play/bdsm? I see it all the time in BL manhwas in particular, especially the ones that have more explicitly bdsm dynamics, but I'm not sure whether it's just something that is trendy in manhwas or it's really that common.
It's one of the few things I really have to skip through in manhwas cuz it really makes me uncomfortable. I think it's because I once had a really bad bladder infection, and though I'm sure it isn't the same sensation, I just can't avoid associating it with that
Well it gets talked about way more than it's actually done. It's definitely a thing, but it's nowhere near as common as people might think. Most BDSM folks I know are into entirely different kinds of play, and plenty have never tried it at all.
That's what I thought. I kinda had the idea it would be something similar to penetrative sex in gay couples, which is much less common than it's usually displayed in media, but even more niche. Thank you very much for your reply, you're very kind
I know a lot of people in the lifestyle including myself. Only ONE likes sounding, and she's female lol It's not common at all.
Depends on the person. Usually takes a level of trust between partners and someone who was actually trained to know what they're doing because that's a very sensitive part of the body. Not done right could cause complications.
Thank you all for your replies
Why did she throw her only "weapon" away?
Maybe because she was obviously under a lot of stress?
Yes, but I'm not sure, it looks a bit out of character for her. But I guess it was easier to get the plot moving ╮(￣▽￣)╭
Great, amazing, showstopping, however... Why tf did they put my boy in a waiter suit? I'm sure there were better options
No like fully, and a BOW TIE AT THAT?? F off like
White jacket, black slacks and bow tie is crazy, he's just missing the white gloves and towel
Jaekyung is so rich and famous I'm sure he'll have security in his building, how tf did shitface get to his front door!?
For fucking reall ughhh
Too bad. A side couple would have brought some time to breathe in the manhwa, between one tragic main couple moment and the other.
I can see a dynamic where Dam-yi would fall first, and slowly but surely teaching Moonwo that love can be kind and warm too, not just painful and unrequited, making him fall harder. Moonwo would also show Dam-yi what it means to be loved back with devotion and not used.
Like, I need some uncomplicated healing and safe yearning in this manhwa, please!
I don't understand. Maybe I am too weak-minded. But if you love him so much, you would also want for him to do well in life. He's not weak, but the people around him think so or use the fact that he's an omega to bring him down for business tactics. So you stepping down is not a measure of his strength, or capabilities, but a coalition for him to be free and with your help to conquer his space in this world. Why would you let him struggle if you can help? How is help a weakening factor in any way?
I know it doesn't correlate to this story and that this is a manhwa not real life, but it kind of reminds me of the men who think that fighting for women's equality doesn't concern them "you wanted equality so now (while I ignore the all the hardships that are on your path to even reach my same level of social-economical status) work on your own to be freed of the stigmas men place on you daily".
I know it's not exactly the same logic, but c'mon bro, being in love doesn't mean seeing them as heroes, but wanting to be there for them, just like they are for you. He literally saved your mf life.
im this woke thank you
Exactly! What he needs isn’t a rival who see him as competent! He needs an ally who is his equal!
This exactly. But I suppose if he can win against ml when he already exert himself as a powerful opponent, he will command his people more effectively and earn their respect
This exactly. But I suppose if he can win against ml when he already exert himself as a powerful opponent, he will command his people more effectively and earn their respect, or that seem to be the direction its going for
Thank you! This is sooo validating, ml makes me so mad. I hope mc won't make it easy for ml to be with him
Omg yes, why is he making it purposefully harder for him just to proof a point instead of supporting him like someone who actually loves him
Exactly! The way I see it is that ML admires MC a lot, but honestly love is a step forward than admiration.
And just to make myself clear, I do think ML is a great character and the fact that he let's MC be his own person (the bare minimum) and admires him so much is visible throughout the manhwa. It really is a step up in the BL economy. I just consider this decision he took as a mistake that can definitely be fixed with some good old communication.
But if ML directly aided MC in becoming chairman (by working for him), the other characters would give credit to ML because he’s an alpha rather than the MC who actually worked for it. This would eventually and inevitably impact their personal relationship, so the ML is being proactive and laying the foundations to show everyone what he already knows; there is only one person meant to succeed the chairman position and it’s the MC.
Is it the best course of action? No, but given his background, his choices make sense. He said it himself, in a game of brains, MC would beat him every time
I see your point and I thought about it too. However, I don't think the people that are against MC are honestly doubting his strength and skills as a CEO, quite the opposite. They're using sexism (I don't know if we can use this word in this context) as a way to excuse their plans of bringing him down to establish their own power. They know that he's a menace and got them by their balls, so they're actually scared of him if anything. It's all business politics, there's no real ideology behind it imo.
And that's also why they're forcing him to get pregnant. They don't necessarily think that's the only thing he's capable of, they think that: firstly, it would actually be hard for him to go through with it, secondly they think it would get in the way of his career, and lastly they want to insert themselves in the equation to overcome him and the other stakeholders.
If ML and MC were to make a coalition, they would have the upper hand, financially and status-wise to overturn the geezers.
Yes, as I just said in the comment above, I see this perspective. However, this could be easily overcome by making a secret alliance and finding a way to make MC get on top through a power play. Taking the long way down, at least in real life, I think would create more resentment between the two of them. And if he's working in secret to make sure MC wins, it defeats the whole mentality of "letting him do his own thing cuz he's so much more capable than anybody else". They could be business partners and lovers and instead they're rivals and stuck in a situationship
I agree that it would build resentment, but I feel it’d be short-term this way rather than long term resentment. It’s temporary struggle for long term gain, in my perspective (not that it’s accurate). && Yeah, the situationship suuuuuuucks
ML should be honest about what he’s doing and why, so at least they are on the same page about long term goals.
Thanks for the chat! I enjoyed reading your perspective :)
Don't worry, I know that my perspective won't be universally accepted either and isn't necessarily accurate . And I think that the manhwa is doing a good job at keeping the possibilities open, so who knows: it might go my way, or your way or in an entirely different direction. And if the author plays their card well, it could actually be developed well in either plotlines.
I also appreciate the chat. I'm opinionated, but I don't mind sharing views with civil and intelligent people.
And I'm glad that we agreed on the communication, cuz it's always that, innit
Yeah you're right actually. Now that I think about it , ML keep pressuring MC to marry him all the while opposing him in terms of business. Now why can't he just cooperate with MC if he so desire to form an union anyway. Now I'm here like what because of his stupid ahh
Yeah, I agree with you! I like the ML a lot. I just think that this manhwa is just trying to girlboss a bit too close to the sun without actually realising where the oppression the MC is trying to overcome shouldn’t be added on to by those he loves. And it seems the MC kind of understands that (why he asked the ML to back down), while the ML hasn’t gotten it yet.
Are the umbrellas an allegory of their characters in their budding relationship? Pitch black, couldn't see the seme's eyes (the ones that better express your intentions and therefore reveal yourself), so mysterious. And then uke's umbrella is literally transparent, you can see everything he's feeling and the way he reasons.
It could be the way the seme sees him, since all the other characters in the story seem to find it hard to wrap their heads around the uke, while he seems to understand more about him than the uke himself (with also the suspect that he might actually be an omega and not a beta). While it seems like all the other characters really know the seme and understand all the little facets of his personality.
Also, as readers, we know a lot about the uke's backstory and what he feels for the seme and the way he sees the world. While we have very limited information regarding the seme. We've just come to know his origins and ethnicities, and the way he acts towards uke is so unexpected at times.
With this being a story revolved around art, I wouldn't be surprised if this detail was intentional and not just unconsciously inserted.
Great analysis I didn't even peep that, I was just dreading to reach the end of the chapter ╥﹏╥
Very well said, I think you are spot on!
I understand that with Kim Dan being inexperienced, Jaekyung's actions may seem worse, but even if they had 1000+ partners before you, that's still no way to treat anyone, especially a sexual partner. The consent was given at the beginning, but when it was withdrawn Jaekyung ignored it, which is not how consent works. And him being a manipulative and violent jerk in day to day life doesn't help his case.
What I mean is that him realizing he was awful to Kim Dan, just because Kim Dan was inexperienced and had a tough life is kinda iffy, cause you shouldn't treat ANYONE like that
Can someone explain the texting fiasco? I feel so dumb rn I just don't understand why both of them were texting each other but didn't get the texts before MC's phone died
mc didn't save his number so he probably texted a wrong number. he probably received one from ml but it is not saved so he didn't know who it is from
jinwoo texted taeyoung through phone text like an sms since he didn't save taeyoung's number. but taeyoung texted him through kakaotalk, it's a chatting app like whatsapp, line, etc. taeyoung uses kakaotalk mostly so he doesnt usually check his sms or phone texts so he didn't see jinwoo's messages.
Uuuh! So taeyoung ignored the text cuz it was an sms and jinwoo didn't get taeyoung's message because his phone died before he received it?
jinwoo did receive taeyoung's message through kakaotalk and he saw it but before he could reply his phone died. that's why he knew where taeyoung was waiting and he came rushing.
Ah thank u thank u, you've been very kind! I guess I should stop reading manhwas after 1 am
taeyoung did ignore the text cause it was an sms but he did it unintentionally. he must not have even realised that jiwoo texted him through sms.
that's okayy i was happy to help!