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shutline creator accused flashlight creator of plagiarism, saying the characters design (aaron and yujin) are very similar to jake and shingun bc they both use the same character dynamics and archetypes. flashlight creator modified the character design of aaron and yujin. that’s all i know

Ahhh okayy thanks

Definitely romanticizing rape. It’s very clear that in a lot of these types of stories, they portray the uke as more soft or feminine. This is because it’s viewed as weaker or more submissive than the semes like Jaekyung (who are buff, strong, and domineering). Seme only feels bad because he likes Kim Dan, if he didn’t he wouldn’t care at all. He had knew Dan needed money, held his debt over his head, and said the payback was sex (abusive sex at that). He didn’t care then and if he didn’t have feelings, he wouldn’t care now. ┑(￣Д ￣)┍

Ahh i see what you mean, because his feelings are involved now so he feels guilty. But the abrupt apology and then sex was weird as hell. Anyways I thought in 2026 we'd be done with these type of stories.. Thanks

2026 or not they will continue to this same shitt of plot continue for i think for 4-5 yr and tell u the real thing readers here are totally support or fan of this shitty manhwa only because of that face card ╮(￣▽￣)╭ remove that and have a avg face card people will start reporting this manhwa

Nope retard. Dan is doing it out of love and affection and he himself admitted be never forced himself and likes every single times they fcked

I'll pray for you.

Long response but I'm really tired of this pseudo intellectual conversation around romanticization of rape and Jinx.
Dan literally said "I didn't hate all of it", implying there were times he did and times he didn't. There was a very clear distinction in the story for when Dan started enjoying (at least physically) sex with JK, and that's from the mirror episode. Even JK commented on the fact that Dan had never gotten hard before. Dan for a long time associated sex with shame. That's why having him approach sex RN with no shame and simply for his own pleasure is actually really powerful.
Also, the idea that there's romanticization of the SA doesn't make sense bkoz then why would the redemption arc exist within the story? Whether you agree with the method of the arc or not, the fact that the author takes time to rake the top over the coals for his past behavior implies very obviously that's it's not behavior that the author wants to maintain. How is it romanticization when the author clearly condemns the actions of the top within the very story??
And whose apology was abrupt?? Both characters have come a long way in the story to be open with each other the way they are and it's been and sis still a bumpy road.. what was abrupt about it??

I get ur point but we really think one min even if they are fictional ok now if in reality if this happend do u really think a person should go back to a person who literally treated u like shit just because u realised oh shit I did this to u i m sorry please accept it.I'm not saying that redemption arc is not necessary but just because u have redemption arc doesn't give author to get the authors gives right to make the character bound together if we had a second ml here or the story started where this whole thing happened and had a different ml all of us would naturally hatted jk and shippped with the new ml

Not a topic we should ever get tired of discussing. It's not pseudo, what about it is psuedo intellectual? For you, prob. I was genuinely curious.

Clear distinction when Dan started enjoying - that's what scary, when the victim stops resisting and just submits. Again, even if he physically reacted - it's still rape.

His words about not hating it all the time, the way he said it - can we even we trust his words alone? that's what i asked about. imo we can't atleast not without months of therapy and a healthy support circle around him which shouldn't include Jae. But he's clearly unstable and just trying to revert back to "how things used to be" that's why when Jae started the whole regret talk - he stopped it and jumped to his dick. that's escapism.

romanticising rape legit means that he thinks the violent or abusive acts by the abuser weren't all that bad - that's his sentence oh I didn't hate all of it. the redemption arc has nothing to do with it. The way Dan is - he is just glossing over the abuse entirely. Redemption arc would only make sense when he acknowledges the abuse, knows it wrong - only then can there by any redemption. Just like without a crime there can't be a punishment.

what's abrupt about it? i was talking about the latest chapter clearly - as Jae was regretting, Dan said it's okay I didn't hate it and before any emotional moments could take hold he escaped to Jae's dick. That's what abrupt about it. As if the only lang they can actually communicate in is thru sex alone which is sure, whatever. But still not a communication which is what I was expecting, maybe he could've just held him to sleep. Or talked about other things which Dan likes. Tried to ask about Dan. Tried to make him laugh. Maybe confess his feelings in a better way. Or talk about things he might do to make things better idk. But I this is Jinx, so whatever.

A minister in our country said "If u can't avoid grape ,then lie down and enjoy it...... "

I'm so sorry, but I can barely read what you're writing.. if English is not your first language, then what you're saying isn't translating properly to me.. and I don't want to respond in poor faith

It's pseudo intellectual bkoz it's largely regurgitated by persons whose only engagement with the story is tiktok clips.
Dan himself, the actual fictional character in the story, doesn't consider all of their sexual encounters rape.. it's fine if you feel however you do, but Dan doesn't. And it's weird how instead of engaging with the actual characters in the story, ppl either pretend it's real life and get angry about it or self-insert and declare they would never behave the way Dan does...which is very crazy btw.
Dan right now isn't unstable, at least not compared to the beginning of the story, and he isn't glossing over the difficult parts of their relationship.. he's made his peace with it. Now, is it the way YOU would respond, probably not, but then again YOU'RE not in the story.. it's not about you. Dan has absolutely acknowledged how JK treated him was horrible..did you skip all the beginning chapters of season 2???
And again, just bkoz YOU wouldn't react in a particular way, doesn't make the story bad... If these two characters can only heal with other, then that's their story.. if a big part of their communication is sex, then that's their story.. and also, acting like sex can't be used as story telling device is very dishonest.. there's been so many clear differences in how they have sex now and how it reflects where they are in their relationship...so no, it's not abrupt... Not even a little bit.

I'm sorry.. real men suck everywhere in the world... This is a fictional man though. And if you disagree with the way the author is writing him, it doesn't mean the author,/story is bad, it just means it's not to your taste

Wow, I never self-inserted myself? are you like serious? no sane person should do that after all it's mingwa's world. Anyways. You are getting way too emotional for this. I was objective in my opinion from beginning to end. Also, don't go assuming shit, tik tok's like the worst app on this planet. Why would I expect Dan to react the way I would? I'm not masochistic enough to even think about myself in that direction. But on the contrary, maybe that's what YOU ARE DOING? Is that how you react to similar encounters in real life ? That's on you for superimposing your love for Jae or sympathy for Dan on him. It's YOU who is mixing fictional world with real world.

And again, I never talked about what I would do. It was just Dan should get therapy, it's not me, anyone who has been through abuse should. And that includes people who don't think they're going through abuse. Because what you think you need and what you actually need almost never align.

With all emotions removed, Dan is unstable - fresh outta abuse and sex as the only healing mechanism is flawed. It might work for them, might not. But it's flawed still and not true healing. And even if Dan thinks it was not rape, it's still rape cuz at the time of rape, it WAS rape. I guess that's the baseline that's to be agreed. Cuz even if this fucking shithell of a story is fictional, the concept and act of rape itself is not.

It's almost like you didn't read anything I said l... And the whole response of "it must be YOU" is quite hilarious. Sex isn't their only healing mechanism, but it IS one that's being employed in this particular scene particularly in response to sexual trauma.. is it healthy? Depends on who you're asking, but it's not invalid.

Your entire response is the epitome of pseudo-intellectualism. Jinx blurs the lines on purpose and you’re proving the entire point in this response.

A redemption arc being implemented in a story, doesn’t negate romanization. In all truth, that’s exactly why it’s romanizing rape. A story can both condemn and eroticize something in the same breath. Dan saying “I didn’t hate it all” still emphasizes the fact that he didn’t consent to all of it. And it’s only framed as “okay” because Dan liked Jaek in those moments or because he liked the sex. Which AGAIN is the romanticization of rape. Implying that it’s not rape because he likes him or enjoyed it doesn’t negate the fact that he was forced into it. Because a body response and the implication of feelings doesn’t mean it’s not rape.

And people engaging critically with this story doesn’t mean we are “focusing on real life” or “inserting ourselves”, it’s a very important conversation about how fiction frames abusive dynamics. If there was actual progress and acknowledgment w/o the stale takes on sexual assault, then maybe it’d be a good story.. but it doesn’t so it’s not. So truly, I don’t think it’s pseudo-intellectual to talk about how this story frames a relationship because it’s an important topic based in years of research on the abusive cycle and what rape can actually look like,

Kuroshitsuji is a manga, not a manhwa, there's more artistry behind it please don't even compare it, this woman have earned her place. Be respectful. She has a lot of other projects with Disney. She IS busy, Im grateful enough she's still working on Kuroshitsuji after she said she'd take a long break...

Comparing a multi-decade-spanning manga (with a mangaka who is also the lead designer for a major Disney project) to manhwa/hua… ijbol

i agree that's it's quite short but let's not ignore that this has more quality art, than 90% of the manhwa that updates every week also considering it's a work without any source material. Yana is also the lead artist for twisted wonderland so they're booked and busy. I would honestly take this rather than a half assed work that I'm just reading illegally in mnggo

Even if I compare it to mangas - more progress takes place per chapter in MOST mangas than whatever this is. Now if I were to name my other fav mangas such as Haikyu or HxH or JJK - you guys would say - oh please black butler is not level or bla bla it's just a fun "side" project blah blah. So I'm not gonna argue.

Precisely because the mangaka is busy they should be more mindful of both their time and the readers and carry on with the plot. Yeah whatever they don't owe the readers, but I've been invested in this for over a decade. Either completely abandon it or make some good progress. At this point it's honestly a disrespect the artist is doing to themselves for forgetting the main purpose for starting this comic in the first place. It's like they really can't bear to end a project that became much more popular than they ancipitated. Which is how good stories turn into whatever this is.

I'm allowed to comment on that. If I were to take this comment and harass the author on official platforms than your defense of "oh be respectful" would make some sense. lol.

Pointing out the illegal comment, lol I buy on official platforms and paperbacks, mangago is how I started and I'll continue to read and comment on works here I as please.

…ijbol x2

you too babe. love

I think she still loves this work and doesn't want to rush, especially since it has a very complicated plot, rushing it might cause some plot holes
I'm just as frustrated as you but i sooth myself by saying it's for the better
Even if we complain it won't change much so I'm trying to stay positive

I agree with you. I guess I do sound quite entitled here. But it's prob just the frustration of knowing that I might never see the end of this manga in my lifetime. I mean there was already HxH but that's because togashi's health. Here, the issue is completely different. I've seen the wonderland stuff and what not, not to my liking obviously. I liked the world created by Yana here but whatever. Like I said it's not funny anymore.

Its actually the last arc, so wym, yana confirmed herself

Oh we might get some STORY but in EXTRAS though.. yea.. best story writing ever..

I totally agree with you.

I agree on every part except the "innocent love". Potato is an adult and in love. Jus bwcause hes not lusting physically after Papa Wolf doesn't mean the love is physically

I say innocent cuz of the shenanigans he pulls off ? like drawing a magic band across their wrists with a marker cuz a children's witch book says so .. is innocent. His grown up age doesn't match his mental age. He does want affection in the form of kisses & hugs though but so far maybe it's censorship or maybe it's the line author drew - we haven't gone further than that.

Thanks for clarifying! I always thought that was the censorship.

No really, I think I’m going to die because of it

It’s making my blood pressure go up