Waterside night has problematic themes and the use of rape as a BL trope (which it very much is and can be found in many commercial BLs people love and enjoy including you, so this hypocrite alert is for you and anyone who thinks like you) is not well justified, I will agree to it before you so you don't have to take the moral high ground with me. But it does resolve the uke's suffering to an extent better than most other commercial bl manhwas because its written well. It portrays the character traits in a believable fashion, the characters are nuanced and the narration follows typical BL emotional beats in a believable manner as well. the writer sets up the context, inciting event, character development, resolution and conclusion in a proper way, it is so visible that this writer knows what they are doing and they are doing it well, irrespective of the theme of the story. If you think you kNoW how storytelling works, you wouldn't have started this argument with me. I know readers here aren't knows for their discernment but readers like you who insist they do when they absolutely don't is laughable. You are proving how little you know about storytelling. But none of this, absolutely none of this justifies people watching/reading pedo shit. Waterside story is written for adults, and it explores the dynamic between two adults, adults readers can read something problematic and have the discernment to disapprove of the themes. Pedo shit like bokunopico is written by pedophilic adults for other pedophilic adults and such media have no other value to it than that, it has no story, no progression, it's pure smut. It shouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole, so you comparing that with adults writing shows how much your understanding of the world is ridiculously surface level. Trying to save face on mggo isn't doing you any favours. And I am not comparing Lolita with waterside, what I am saying is that readers can like different things about a story, themes, writing style, individual visual flourishes, character treatment etc. bokunopico has none of it, it's just porn. I didn't take the user out of context and you would have known that if you had read their other comments where they are explicitly defending bokunopico. Shame on you for defending this person.
Holy shit... These comments?? I hate Waterside Night as much as the next person but how are we comparing child porn to a manhwa about adult characters? Liking something that has rape doesn't mean you get off to rape. At least Waterside Night actually has a story and as poorly as it handles rape it doesn't just completely gloss over it. Are people seriously comparing that to an anime that's purely about graphic depictions of children getting groomed, assaulted, sexualised etc?? Someone please nuke this site!!
Omg hello, do you not hear yourself?? The last sentence is literally the description of waterside night besides the children getting groomed. Do you think it's okay for the manga to have rape just because its adults? Liking something that has rape doesn't mean you like it, as much as I hate to admit, the same could be said for that nasty ass anime. There isn't really much of a difference between the two, you like the story, but it has HEAVY rape..And they like boku no Pico but it has HEAVY child porn. Yall are literally two sides of the same coin
Omg hello, do you not hear yourself?? The last sentence is literally the description of waterside night besides the children getting groomed. Do you think it's okay for the manga to have rape just because its a... Kozue
If you think child rape is the same then please seek help. Children are innocent and sacred. Sexualising them is a red line that should never be crossed. Adults can be sexual. They have taboo fantasies that include other adults that they don't necessarily want to act out. Boku no Pico has absolutely no value as a work of fiction. It has no story. No progression. Just pure porn. I absolutely don't see any reason for people to like it other than kids getting diddled. "The same could be said about that nasty ass anime" Do YOU hear yourself?? Children should not even exist in a pornographic context. If you think adults writing fantasies about other adults is the same as adults writing about children please re-evaluate yourself. That's not a point I'm willing to argue.
Omg hello, do you not hear yourself?? The last sentence is literally the description of waterside night besides the children getting groomed. Do you think it's okay for the manga to have rape just because its a... Kozue
Lol what?? No it's not the same, you are diluting the issue just to justify comparing something that has no justification. None of the pro comments here denied the problematic aspects of waterside night and no matter what you say, this manhwa tells a actual story that follows the rules of actual storytelling, and it does not gloss over the rape completely. One can enjoy the writing of a story without neglecting the problematic aspects of it. And that can be said about majority of media that people enjoy, including you most probably. Japanese media, especially the most popular shounen and seinen, is chock full of problematic themes such as misogyny, homophobia and a lot of popular anime characters are pedo coded. and it is important to call them out which contemporary audience does. Nothing is black and white, and if you deliberately ignore the nuances just to have the last word, that's not the most valid response. And it's also stupid to denounce the story just because it has dark themes, literally 90 percent of korean and japanese bl has dark themes in some form or the other. And I dont condone most of it. But dark themes are as valid as lighter themes, no matter what you think. Thats what real life is like, so stories depicting these dark aspects are also needed as long as they are written commensurately without romanticizing these themes. Some writers simply make it a money project by doing fan service at the expense of the story, some others do better in that regard, like waterside night, even if they could have done better. No one is saying it doesn't have its problems but it's not the same as enjoying media that does nothing but ROMANTICIZE CHILD GROOMING AND DEVIANT SEXUAL BEHAVIOUR WITH A MINOR. are you hearing yourself?? Lol seriously this site is bonkers.
The average EQ of readers here is quite indicative of the level of discernment in readers, from what I can see in the comment section, who cannot comprehend the real problematic mentioned in the post. And I am pretty sure this sentiment is coming from 'showing me' or 'checking the op' rather than actually gleaning the real issue here. And then these same people blame the Hollywood elites for their depravity as if they don't ignore it or even defend it. Its easy to check all of these accounts and find something problematic and hypocritical in their reading list or favourites. If that weren't the case, they probably wouldn't have been here. So the double standards are funny to me. At least I own it without neglecting the problematic parts of the story, and if you want a discussion on that, I am game. Heh. But you using that as excuse to encourage a pedo is low behaviour, even if you dont realize it. If you are triggered by this comment, you are the problem.
This post was never about eating. Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. I like killing stalking as well. It also has dark themes and I enjoy reading dark themes as long as it's well written and I have no difficulty admitting that. There's a world of difference between that and enjoying literal child p*rn. Comparing the two like it's same and not considering the latter as literal dangerous precedent and felony deserving behaviour is a heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that distinction in this political and social climate is far more serious than you give it credit. People don't think so well on this site but i knew that. So that's on me I guess.
This post was never about eating. Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes a... Tonikaku
You actually thought that being a rape porn enjoyer makes your opinion, valid in this situation? Shut the fuck up, man.
This post was never about eating. Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes a... Tonikaku
You actually thought that being a rape porn enjoyer makes your opinion, valid in this situation? Shut the fuck up, man.
also, i'll take my win bec they alr blocked me. STEWIE
LOL, I SAW THE QUESTION! YOU CLOCK THEM SO HARD... I'M ALR LAUGHING RN, SEEING THE OP TRYNA DEFEND THEIR SELF IN THIS THREAD. What a pathetic son of a bitch...
Hehehe. I have literally put the link in the post. Ah i can see you are so agitated and guilty you didn't even notice. Lol. Tonikaku
It actually seems that you’re more agitated than the person you’re criticizing. The number of replies you’ve made in this thread suggests that you’re quite invested in the argument, and it ends up coming across as unnecessarily defensive rather than constructive.
It actually seems that you’re more agitated than the person you’re criticizing. The number of replies you’ve made in this thread suggests that you’re quite invested in the argument, and it ends up comin... Reignhorshayne
The average EQ of readers here is quite indicative of the level of discernment in readers, from what I can see in the comment section, who cannot comprehend the real problematic mentioned in the post. And I am pretty sure this sentiment is coming from 'showing me' or 'checking the op' rather than actually gleaning the real issue here. And then these same people blame the Hollywood elites for their depravity as if they don't ignore it or even defend it. Its easy to check all of these accounts and find something problematic and hypocritical in their reading list or favourites. If that weren't the case, they probably wouldn't have been here. So the double standards are funny to me. At least I own it without neglecting the problematic parts of the story, and if you want a discussion on that, I am game. Heh. But you using that as excuse to encourage a pedo is low behaviour, even if you dont realize it. If you are triggered by this comment, you are the problem.
Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. I like killing stalking as well. It also has dark themes and I enjoy reading dark themes as long as it's well written and I have no difficulty admitting that. There's a world of difference between that and enjoying literal child p*rn. Comparing the two like it's same and not considering the latter as literal dangerous precedent and felony deserving behaviour is a heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that distinction in this political and social climate is far more serious than you give it credit. People don't think so well on this site but i knew that. So that's on me I guess.
I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. But calling CP garbage and not literal dangerous precedent, felony deserving behaviour is heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that issue in this political and social is far more serious than you give it credit.
From someone who thinks salty lust is peak. Lol. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. But calling CP garbage and not literal dangerous precedent, felony deserving behaviour is heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that issue in this political and social is far more serious than you give it credit.
From someone who thinks salty lust is peak. Lol. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. ... Tonikaku
hello??? the question was about meme songs. the theme song itself was a meme song, they weren’t watching child porn, you donut. also salty lust is pwp, waterside night was a Stockholm syndrome story about a guy falling in “love” with his rapist who tried to traffick him.
hello??? the question was about meme songs. the theme song itself was a meme song, they weren’t watching child porn, you donut. also salty lust is pwp, waterside night was a Stockholm syndrome story about a g... helicopter schlong
They literally said that bocu no pico was peak anime in their comment. What is wrong with people on this site with their selective reading and completely off reading comprehension? Are they illiterate or what?? Plus they kept defending this anime even in their other comments, so it's obviously not just about the meme topic. They went far and beyond the MEmE tOPic defending this anime, it you didn't catch that madame oblivious. And I am obviously talking about writing quality. Salty lust is definitely pwp, but it also has problematic themes and plenty of dubcon that was written to titillate the reader with fan service. If we are going to nitpick, you liking salty lust doesn't really justify your 'superior reading standards' lol. Waterside story has miles better writing quality, and no one is denying that it has problematic themes which i have talked about before. So does killing stalking. Does that invalidate how well they are written? Readers have the privilege of distinguishing between nuances and appreciate one thing while denouncing others. What, Are you five? Do you think everyone thinks in the same black and white fashion as you do? I love reading Lolita by Nabokov even though it also has dark themes but regardless, it's one of the most well written pieces of literature of the 20th century. Well that was the whole point of Nabokov writing that story, he wanted to draw such an intimate and thoughtful picture of a pedophile that readers found it difficult not to sympathize with him, and he managed to polarize the readers. Thats why that novel is so popular and controversial. Not everyone judges media with the same conformity riddled two bit logic and shallow, juvenile one dimensional understanding that you do. It's important to notice these nuances and talk about it without defending what's wrong, and without dismissing what's well written.
They literally said that bocu no pico was peak anime in their comment. What is wrong with people on this site with their selective reading and completely off reading comprehension? Are they illiterate or what??... Tonikaku
except waterside night was literally romanticizing it?? i haven’t read salty lust for a while, so now that my frontal lobe has developed, i can recognize the problems with the story. salty lust is definitely poorly written, but so is waterside night. comparing that to Lolita is an ant versus a hyper nova. the poster of that comment literally said “peak anime intro”. you can enjoy music from a problematic media without enjoying the media itself. people like the intro of ybc too, but not ybc itself. if the poster genuinely enjoys boku no pico, then im wrong. but from the ss you took, it looks like you may have taken the user out of context.
except waterside night was literally romanticizing it?? i haven’t read salty lust for a while, so now that my frontal lobe has developed, i can recognize the problems with the story. salty lust is definitely ... helicopter schlong
Waterside night has problematic themes and the use of rape as a BL trope (which it very much is and can be found in many commercial BLs people love and enjoy including you, so this hypocrite alert is for you and anyone who thinks like you) is not well justified, I will agree to it before you so you don't have to take the moral high ground with me. But it does resolve the uke's suffering to an extent better than most other commercial bl manhwas because its written well. It portrays the character traits in a believable fashion, the characters are nuanced and the narration follows typical BL emotional beats in a believable manner as well. the writer sets up the context, inciting event, character development, resolution and conclusion in a proper way, it is so visible that this writer knows what they are doing and they are doing it well, irrespective of the theme of the story. If you think you kNoW how storytelling works, you wouldn't have started this argument with me. I know readers here aren't knows for their discernment but readers like you who insist they do when they absolutely don't is laughable. You are proving how little you know about storytelling. But none of this, absolutely none of this justifies people watching/reading pedo shit. Waterside story is written for adults, and it explores the dynamic between two adults, adults readers can read something problematic and have the discernment to disapprove of the themes. Pedo shit like bokunopico is written by pedophilic adults for other pedophilic adults and such media have no other value to it than that, it has no story, no progression, it's pure smut. It shouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole, so you comparing that with adults writing shows how much your understanding of the world is ridiculously surface level. Trying to save face on mggo isn't doing you any favours. And I am not comparing Lolita with waterside, what I am saying is that readers can like different things about a story, themes, writing style, individual visual flourishes, character treatment etc. bokunopico has none of it, it's just porn. I didn't take the user out of context and you would have known that if you had read their other comments where they are explicitly defending bokunopico. Shame on you for defending this person.
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Waterside night has problematic themes and the use of rape as a BL trope (which it very much is and can be found in many commercial BLs people love and enjoy including you, so this hypocrite alert is for you and anyone who thinks like you) is not well justified, I will agree to it before you so you don't have to take the moral high ground with me. But it does resolve the uke's suffering to an extent better than most other commercial bl manhwas because its written well. It portrays the character traits in a believable fashion, the characters are nuanced and the narration follows typical BL emotional beats in a believable manner as well. the writer sets up the context, inciting event, character development, resolution and conclusion in a proper way, it is so visible that this writer knows what they are doing and they are doing it well, irrespective of the theme of the story. If you think you kNoW how storytelling works, you wouldn't have started this argument with me. I know readers here aren't knows for their discernment but readers like you who insist they do when they absolutely don't is laughable. You are proving how little you know about storytelling. But none of this, absolutely none of this justifies people watching/reading pedo shit. Waterside story is written for adults, and it explores the dynamic between two adults, adults readers can read something problematic and have the discernment to disapprove of the themes. Pedo shit like bokunopico is written by pedophilic adults for other pedophilic adults and such media have no other value to it than that, it has no story, no progression, it's pure smut. It shouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole, so you comparing that with adults writing shows how much your understanding of the world is ridiculously surface level. Trying to save face on mggo isn't doing you any favours. And I am not comparing Lolita with waterside, what I am saying is that readers can like different things about a story, themes, writing style, individual visual flourishes, character treatment etc. bokunopico has none of it, it's just porn. I didn't take the user out of context and you would have known that if you had read their other comments where they are explicitly defending bokunopico. Shame on you for defending this person.
Holy shit... These comments?? I hate Waterside Night as much as the next person but how are we comparing child porn to a manhwa about adult characters? Liking something that has rape doesn't mean you get off to rape. At least Waterside Night actually has a story and as poorly as it handles rape it doesn't just completely gloss over it. Are people seriously comparing that to an anime that's purely about graphic depictions of children getting groomed, assaulted, sexualised etc?? Someone please nuke this site!!
It's difficult to acknowledge the precariousness of a house of cards.
Omg hello, do you not hear yourself?? The last sentence is literally the description of waterside night besides the children getting groomed. Do you think it's okay for the manga to have rape just because its adults? Liking something that has rape doesn't mean you like it, as much as I hate to admit, the same could be said for that nasty ass anime. There isn't really much of a difference between the two, you like the story, but it has HEAVY rape..And they like boku no Pico but it has HEAVY child porn. Yall are literally two sides of the same coin
If you think child rape is the same then please seek help. Children are innocent and sacred. Sexualising them is a red line that should never be crossed. Adults can be sexual. They have taboo fantasies that include other adults that they don't necessarily want to act out. Boku no Pico has absolutely no value as a work of fiction. It has no story. No progression. Just pure porn. I absolutely don't see any reason for people to like it other than kids getting diddled. "The same could be said about that nasty ass anime" Do YOU hear yourself?? Children should not even exist in a pornographic context. If you think adults writing fantasies about other adults is the same as adults writing about children please re-evaluate yourself. That's not a point I'm willing to argue.
Lol what?? No it's not the same, you are diluting the issue just to justify comparing something that has no justification. None of the pro comments here denied the problematic aspects of waterside night and no matter what you say, this manhwa tells a actual story that follows the rules of actual storytelling, and it does not gloss over the rape completely. One can enjoy the writing of a story without neglecting the problematic aspects of it. And that can be said about majority of media that people enjoy, including you most probably. Japanese media, especially the most popular shounen and seinen, is chock full of problematic themes such as misogyny, homophobia and a lot of popular anime characters are pedo coded. and it is important to call them out which contemporary audience does. Nothing is black and white, and if you deliberately ignore the nuances just to have the last word, that's not the most valid response. And it's also stupid to denounce the story just because it has dark themes, literally 90 percent of korean and japanese bl has dark themes in some form or the other. And I dont condone most of it. But dark themes are as valid as lighter themes, no matter what you think. Thats what real life is like, so stories depicting these dark aspects are also needed as long as they are written commensurately without romanticizing these themes. Some writers simply make it a money project by doing fan service at the expense of the story, some others do better in that regard, like waterside night, even if they could have done better. No one is saying it doesn't have its problems but it's not the same as enjoying media that does nothing but ROMANTICIZE CHILD GROOMING AND DEVIANT SEXUAL BEHAVIOUR WITH A MINOR. are you hearing yourself?? Lol seriously this site is bonkers.
The average EQ of readers here is quite indicative of the level of discernment in readers, from what I can see in the comment section, who cannot comprehend the real problematic mentioned in the post. And I am pretty sure this sentiment is coming from 'showing me' or 'checking the op' rather than actually gleaning the real issue here. And then these same people blame the Hollywood elites for their depravity as if they don't ignore it or even defend it. Its easy to check all of these accounts and find something problematic and hypocritical in their reading list or favourites. If that weren't the case, they probably wouldn't have been here. So the double standards are funny to me. At least I own it without neglecting the problematic parts of the story, and if you want a discussion on that, I am game. Heh. But you using that as excuse to encourage a pedo is low behaviour, even if you dont realize it. If you are triggered by this comment, you are the problem.
OP really thought they ate
This post was never about eating. Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. I like killing stalking as well. It also has dark themes and I enjoy reading dark themes as long as it's well written and I have no difficulty admitting that. There's a world of difference between that and enjoying literal child p*rn. Comparing the two like it's same and not considering the latter as literal dangerous precedent and felony deserving behaviour is a heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that distinction in this political and social climate is far more serious than you give it credit. People don't think so well on this site but i knew that. So that's on me I guess.
they want to be right so bad, they didn't even include the question just for them to be labeled as the "winner"
also, i'll take my win bec they alr blocked me.
Hehehe. I have literally put the link in the post. Ah i can see you are so agitated and guilty you didn't even notice. Lol.
You actually thought that being a rape porn enjoyer makes your opinion, valid in this situation? Shut the fuck up, man.
You actually thought that being a rape porn enjoyer makes your opinion, valid in this situation? Shut the fuck up, man.
LOL, I SAW THE QUESTION! YOU CLOCK THEM SO HARD... I'M ALR LAUGHING RN, SEEING THE OP TRYNA DEFEND THEIR SELF IN THIS THREAD. What a pathetic son of a bitch...
It actually seems that you’re more agitated than the person you’re criticizing. The number of replies you’ve made in this thread suggests that you’re quite invested in the argument, and it ends up coming across as unnecessarily defensive rather than constructive.
The average EQ of readers here is quite indicative of the level of discernment in readers, from what I can see in the comment section, who cannot comprehend the real problematic mentioned in the post. And I am pretty sure this sentiment is coming from 'showing me' or 'checking the op' rather than actually gleaning the real issue here. And then these same people blame the Hollywood elites for their depravity as if they don't ignore it or even defend it. Its easy to check all of these accounts and find something problematic and hypocritical in their reading list or favourites. If that weren't the case, they probably wouldn't have been here. So the double standards are funny to me. At least I own it without neglecting the problematic parts of the story, and if you want a discussion on that, I am game. Heh. But you using that as excuse to encourage a pedo is low behaviour, even if you dont realize it. If you are triggered by this comment, you are the problem.
Getting blocked for what? OP's indeed the one being AGITATED.
lmaooo they didn’t even read the original question and just attacked that guy
Rape vs child porn.. Mangago users man
Those two things are definitely not the same or comparable in this context. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. I like killing stalking as well. It also has dark themes and I enjoy reading dark themes as long as it's well written and I have no difficulty admitting that. There's a world of difference between that and enjoying literal child p*rn. Comparing the two like it's same and not considering the latter as literal dangerous precedent and felony deserving behaviour is a heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that distinction in this political and social climate is far more serious than you give it credit. People don't think so well on this site but i knew that. So that's on me I guess.
OH HELL NAH
no winner tonight chat
I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. But calling CP garbage and not literal dangerous precedent, felony deserving behaviour is heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that issue in this political and social is far more serious than you give it credit.
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trash vs garbage
From someone who thinks salty lust is peak. Lol. I know waterside story has problematic themes and i identify it as such. I understand these themes are not to be glorified or justified, and have never done so. But I appreciate storytelling when it's done well, which it is. But calling CP garbage and not literal dangerous precedent, felony deserving behaviour is heavy dilution of the issue and people not understanding that issue in this political and social is far more serious than you give it credit.
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hello??? the question was about meme songs. the theme song itself was a meme song, they weren’t watching child porn, you donut. also salty lust is pwp, waterside night was a Stockholm syndrome story about a guy falling in “love” with his rapist who tried to traffick him.
They literally said that bocu no pico was peak anime in their comment. What is wrong with people on this site with their selective reading and completely off reading comprehension? Are they illiterate or what?? Plus they kept defending this anime even in their other comments, so it's obviously not just about the meme topic. They went far and beyond the MEmE tOPic defending this anime, it you didn't catch that madame oblivious. And I am obviously talking about writing quality. Salty lust is definitely pwp, but it also has problematic themes and plenty of dubcon that was written to titillate the reader with fan service. If we are going to nitpick, you liking salty lust doesn't really justify your 'superior reading standards' lol. Waterside story has miles better writing quality, and no one is denying that it has problematic themes which i have talked about before. So does killing stalking. Does that invalidate how well they are written? Readers have the privilege of distinguishing between nuances and appreciate one thing while denouncing others. What, Are you five? Do you think everyone thinks in the same black and white fashion as you do? I love reading Lolita by Nabokov even though it also has dark themes but regardless, it's one of the most well written pieces of literature of the 20th century. Well that was the whole point of Nabokov writing that story, he wanted to draw such an intimate and thoughtful picture of a pedophile that readers found it difficult not to sympathize with him, and he managed to polarize the readers. Thats why that novel is so popular and controversial. Not everyone judges media with the same conformity riddled two bit logic and shallow, juvenile one dimensional understanding that you do. It's important to notice these nuances and talk about it without defending what's wrong, and without dismissing what's well written.
except waterside night was literally romanticizing it?? i haven’t read salty lust for a while, so now that my frontal lobe has developed, i can recognize the problems with the story. salty lust is definitely poorly written, but so is waterside night. comparing that to Lolita is an ant versus a hyper nova. the poster of that comment literally said “peak anime intro”. you can enjoy music from a problematic media without enjoying the media itself. people like the intro of ybc too, but not ybc itself. if the poster genuinely enjoys boku no pico, then im wrong. but from the ss you took, it looks like you may have taken the user out of context.
Waterside night has problematic themes and the use of rape as a BL trope (which it very much is and can be found in many commercial BLs people love and enjoy including you, so this hypocrite alert is for you and anyone who thinks like you) is not well justified, I will agree to it before you so you don't have to take the moral high ground with me. But it does resolve the uke's suffering to an extent better than most other commercial bl manhwas because its written well. It portrays the character traits in a believable fashion, the characters are nuanced and the narration follows typical BL emotional beats in a believable manner as well. the writer sets up the context, inciting event, character development, resolution and conclusion in a proper way, it is so visible that this writer knows what they are doing and they are doing it well, irrespective of the theme of the story. If you think you kNoW how storytelling works, you wouldn't have started this argument with me. I know readers here aren't knows for their discernment but readers like you who insist they do when they absolutely don't is laughable. You are proving how little you know about storytelling. But none of this, absolutely none of this justifies people watching/reading pedo shit. Waterside story is written for adults, and it explores the dynamic between two adults, adults readers can read something problematic and have the discernment to disapprove of the themes. Pedo shit like bokunopico is written by pedophilic adults for other pedophilic adults and such media have no other value to it than that, it has no story, no progression, it's pure smut. It shouldn't be touched with a ten foot pole, so you comparing that with adults writing shows how much your understanding of the world is ridiculously surface level. Trying to save face on mggo isn't doing you any favours. And I am not comparing Lolita with waterside, what I am saying is that readers can like different things about a story, themes, writing style, individual visual flourishes, character treatment etc. bokunopico has none of it, it's just porn. I didn't take the user out of context and you would have known that if you had read their other comments where they are explicitly defending bokunopico. Shame on you for defending this person.