Well the thing is that it's fiction. In fiction, fictional things happen like pigs fly or zombie eats a vampire (idk) and rape is not fictional, neither is death or murder, yet sometimes it happen in yaoi as well ecchi, smut, yuri and any other mature content. To say that rape is wrong is absolutely true but, so is murder yet, people say murder is ...... 3 reply
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So, what would you call people who love watching killers themed movies?? Psycho? After all, killing people happen in real life and it's such a horrible act. Does that mean they are okay with that?
What would you call people who love watching BSDM? You might say, that's just a play and people involved in that fandom doing things with consent...... 6 reply
Yaoi fan girls in this thread are literally admitting to getting off on seeing gay men get raped, yet wonder why gay men are uncomfortable with fujoshis as a group 5 reply
Yess exactly. Well I can't change the old mangas. Because when the yaoi industry started people used to like the aggressive plotlines rather than slice of life ones. I still see old mangas with rapey or forcible affection plot with 8-9 rating but good old mangas with 7. Maybe we were not that up to date .But now after we had the knowledge of what t...... reply
So, I appreciate that more and more people are becoming frustrated with rape in yaoi. It's good that people question the stuff they see, and don't just treat it as normal. However, I think the people who are fine with rape in yaoi are more describing their personal feelings towards it - so more brutal rape may make people feel uncomfortable, whilst...... 4 reply
honestly ya have got a very good point here but idk I would just let the rape trope slide off now cause its kinda common to see it. I mean famous mangas like hidoku shinaide, ten count, killing stalking also had same forceful semes in their plot but still they rose to fame so damn easily probably cause of the good art and popularity.I just dislike ...... reply
IKR. WHO THE HECK LOVE THAT MANGA WHERE HE BROUGHT HIS TRASH FRIENDS TO RAPE THE UKE AND YET DOESN'T WANT UKE TO BE WITH OTHER GUY. FAK THAT LOVE SHUTTLE AUTHOR. (╯TД T)╯╧╧
Anyways, it's pretty much everyone being hypocrite. If the manga takes place that it's omegaverse, it's can't be helped the uke get raped by seme. That seme at least ...... reply
Simple answer: it's a fetish. Doesn't mean you want to actually be raped, but the fantasy of being controlled by someone is a turn on for people. reply
I'll state it out loud. I hate rape. Still, that does not mean I'll prohibit others from enjoying reading a manga with rape (if that's really your taste, sure go ahead, I'll just judge you silently behind my screen).
What I hate about the yaoi community with regards to rape is that most readers don't even acknowledge when something is rape or not....... 2 reply
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But you wrote that only my genitalia would change... but then that would mean no ovaries, no womb, no vagina, my hormone balance would change....
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Wow.... but would I even look like a man? Because if not, there wouldn't change much in my role and place in so...... reply
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i don't condone rape and i get extremely uncomfortable when reading it. i also don't like the fetishization of gay men in yaoi which allows this. kinda weird, if you ask me. 3 reply
I feel like some people read my post wrong *face palm* when I mentioned 'other random guy' I meant a character in the story not in real life. I'm not questioning rape in real life but in the story.
I know in the end everything is fiction so I'm not really bothered by the rape but in my post I was questioning whether people are hypocrites for think...... 2 reply
lol you lowkey called people who read the trope (like me) sickos? lmao. It's pretty bold to assume that people who read such a trope are actually okay with something like that. If i were to answer personally, i half the time don't care about the trope whilst reading not because it's 'always there' or its 'just fiction' but because the subject is ne...... 1 reply
I don't care about the rape trope much, I personally find it a lazy way to advance the plot as a writer myself but people are right, it is just fiction. At the end of the day it's a story, it's not deep, people will read what they like. reply
Mmm I wouldn't say it's hypocritical. People just like what they like. I would guarantee you most people that read yaoi and see that the seme rape the uke would know it's wrong, but it's a fantasy and a safe fantasy because it's written and not experienced. Also there are people that like hardcore stuff too, and that's fine too.
I would only be wo...... reply
I honestly wanna know this too. I've been reading bl for years now but fell out of reading manga until I turned 21. As I started reading manga again I got back into bl and realized how many bl stories have the "rape to lovers", "sexual harassment", "blackmail", and "abusive boyfriend being excused as protective" tropes and it fucking kills me. I of...... reply
I'm just saying one (a bit embarrassing, maybe) thing: I like reading non consensual things because it's one of my biggest fantasies and it excites me a lot. That doesn't mean, of course, that I think rape is ok or that I desire to be raped. It's just something I fantasize about, therefore I like seeing it in a story. Doesn't matter if the rapist i...... 4 reply
So I've seen people complaining about rape and people complaining about the people bitching about rape but lately I wondered whether the people who didn't mind rape in yaoi are hypocrites.
I get the impression that people don't mind rape if it's not violent (eg. beating, torture) and isn't treated seriously in the story but what if the one who raped the uke is not the seme but some other random guy? would you guys still say that rape is okay? If it was during the beginning of the story and the seme and uke have yet to develop feelings for each other but the uke was vanilla raped (not violent) would you think that it was fine?
I don't know, the main argument that people who are fine with rape in yaoi usually say things like - "it's fiction" or "it always happens in yaoi anyway" but I think they're fine with it because the uke usually ends up with the rapist anyway (aka seme). I feel like there is bias towards seme rapists and are given a free pass and are usually praised at the end of the series but if they weren't the seme they would be trashed upon.
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