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I like it when I found my people like this.
You phrase them so well I can’t even add anything..

Hiii not argumentative but don't you think if the author was trying for realistic portrayal of uhh rape, why would they also romanticise their relationship as they will in the next few chapters by the end of the story all will be forgiven, nobody will even remember that they had th uncomfy noncon sex I don't think it's very realistic or safe to have the victim falling in love with their rapist as the end goal of the story of we are going for realism but that's just meee. Thanku for listening byeee

Right I felt that to season 1 literally gave me goosebumps reading but it just feels icky

Romanticise? I did not see any romance. All I saw was two guys trying to one up each other. If people saw Romanticism, such as yourself, then obviously you missed the point. Secondly, we still don’t know what will happen at the end of the story nor what the future chapters will look like and I highly doubt anyone would forget how they had non consensual sex. Either way I still do not know what the author is going for, just stating we shall see

People are the ones that romanticize it, not really the author tbh

Wdym not romanticising it when the end goal of this story is for them to become romantic couple lmao it's fine, we have diff opinions.

So you are romanticizing it? Or are you saying the manwha is? I’m not stating the author isnt but I thought you were talking about the people. I think my sentence is worded wrong tbh -_- I said I wasn’t romanticizing it cause this chapter reminded me of people hate fucking

“no guys you dont get it him being raped is actually part of the plot for this romance manwha”

It becomes romantic or not in the end, at this point I think they just want to show where they stand. Lorenzo just find it interesting and endearing to confront Rian through sex and want to make him surrender. While Rian use sex as a tools to get away from problems, at some point he also wanted to use it to charm Lorenzo. Say it was a rape is a bit…
Maybe they see this action as some kind of battle of power vs charm?

It is objectively rape lol. It’s not even a debate. Rian never consented to bottoming, being lashed with a belt, having rough sex, or submitting to Lorenzo. Everything he’s done so far (including the parking blowjob) is because he’s scared of what Lorenzo would do if he refused or fought back (cut off his dick, hurt Shadow, break his ribs).

There’s no power play here. Lorenzo has all the cards and Rian did not agree to anything within their dynamic. He’s being dragged along by Lorenzo the entire time.

Bro there’s no way there’s ppl who are not incarcerated and running free in society like this person dude, cause they deadass just said it isnt rape but a battle of charm and power about a guy that was locked up and literally raped

this is what i mean when i say trivialising rape like this has real life impacts cause this person actually exists and thinks like this its so over we’re never gonna be free and this planet will forever be the planet where Epsteins buddies got away with all his shit i need to log off

Epsteins buddies are pedo’s. Lorenzo isn’t a pdf but a rapist lol. Secondly, what can you do about? Korean Yaoi will always be this way, same goes with jp too. There is literally nothing either of you us can do about this situation. I stopped complaining after a while of this fact simply because I’m reading this on a free site so I’m practically complaining to air than I am to the author. I’m not hating you but this statement will only be collection of other comments similar to yours, and be pushed under the rug because that is the type of thing the internet will do because it is the internet.

Epsteins are rapists too but I’m stating lorenzo isn’t a pdf (sorry my sentence was worded wrong there)

Youre literally part of the problem calling this shit “hate fucking” also thanks for making that important distinction between rapists and pedophiles… bruh

Sure, if you say I’m part of the problem then of course that is just your opinion. Obviously mine is clearly different then yours and I don’t plan to change your mind cause you stated it clearly how much of a waste of time you’d be. Aye, but I do appreciate the response back. It sure made me cackle, love you broski <3

Oh it doesn't matter at this point but since u asked me a direct question, I just saw- I'll answer it...

I don't know if you are being obtuse on purpose or not but this manhwa is marketed as romance. Not said by me, it IS written to be a romance in the end-- by the author. You seriously think for one moment that the author is planning on making this a story about rape survival or even something like killing stalking? Which is not BL btw. But this particular story is marketed as boys LOVE, by the author. They will definitely be endgame-- so you tell me now, should a story that trivialises rape if it ends in forgiveness and romance- be considered "realistic portrayal". And if it is-- it's dangerous. Ppl can argue until they are blue in face that fiction cannot affect reality-- but it genuinely does. In your subconscious, it trivialises and normalises rape for you-- especially for ppl who don't have their frontal lobes developed yet. (I didn't mean YOU in particular btw. I'm just saying in general )

God i love you so much

What? I never said the author was planning to make a story about rape survival. I said that if you, or like the others are trying to romanticize the story, then obviously you missed the point of trying to differ between consent and non consent. I wasn’t talking about the point the author was trying to make. As for my other statement about what we don’t really know for sure what the author is going to do next because that is true but it can be inferred. Of course I knew that but I wasn’t saying I normalized rape lol what? I never said it should be considered a realistic portrayal. What? Never once do I consider Yaoi as an exact portrayal or demonstration of real life same sex experiences since I have a fair share of my own on both sides of the coins. I read Yaoi simply for the entertainment, obviously ones like these ones are quite painful to read but honestly I’m literally only reading this one specifically cause I want to look at the art lol. I literally don’t take Yaoi 100% seriously because why would I when I known it’s fully fictional and a mediocre display of real life. The rape part is always going to be there because it’s korean bl. Obviously in real life I can do something but since this is the internet and since majority of the BL Manwha is stationed in Korea. I can’t really do nothin. I’m not normalizing rape. I had people close to me irl who had those type of experiences and had some close calls of my own. Me stating that there is literally nothing I can do on the internet to stop people from normalizing rape does not mean I’m normalizing it lol

"I said that if you, or like the others are trying to romanticize the story, then obviously you missed the point of trying to differ between consent and non consent. I wasn’t talking about the point the author was trying to make.-- "

You realise you are contradicting yourself here and purposefully missing what I said-- so I'll explain in baby language: Author had the male lead rape his love interest in her manhwa. I said that this is romanticising rape in fiction which is icky and should not be defended. You said:

"Romanticise? I did not see any romance. All I saw was two guys trying to one up each other. If ppl saw romance it's their fault not the authors"

First off ur now saying that u weren't talking about the point the author was trying to make but I AM. My whole comment was about it. It is the fault of the author and she does want ppl to see her manhwa as a romance where she has her male lead as a rapist. If u are not disagreeing to anything I'm saying then what are you even disagreeing about. You say something and when I reply to exactly what u said u are like "oh that's not what I'm saying"

As for "oh I'm not able to change anything, what to do" I never said you have to lol. That's not even my point. I read rapeslop such as thing one too, I just don't want ppl to be deluded about it, defend the author or like the OP-- like it "realistic portrayal of rape"

Bro these people act like they dont know their ABCs when you actually confront them. This is a BOYS LOVE story meaning the guy thats brutally RAPING the other guy right now is the love interest. That means that even though this man just violated the main character of this story because this is a ROMANCE story it will be amended in the end and “forgiven” (using this term very lightly because the rape isnt even gonna be treated like a rape, it will never be discussed again let alone forgiven). That is why we are saying ts is romanticising rape.

Youre free to like this absolute garbage bullshit and continue to engage with stories that push and elevate rape culture but at the very least stop denying this is rape or romanticising rape

Why do you guys keep engaging with something that is clearly triggering to you? I don’t like the direction this story is going in either, but if it was legitimately ruining my mood irl I would cease engaging with the work and the comment section.

At the end of the day, yes it’s rape. No debate. But also dark fiction will never go away regardless of how much you want to debate it in the comment sections of a piracy website. People will never stop engaging with dark fiction. Also, it’s FICTION.

Please just move on. You’re responsible for your own triggers and feelings. That’s perfectly fine. Part of being mature is knowing where and when to pick your battles.

Bruh the moment yall run out of arguments its always “youre triggered” and “why are you reading” like newsflash people read things and then comment on it… thats how media works, its not just here for mindless consumption but well maybe for you it is

I don’t even care to argue about this (what even is the argument exactly??) but okay (⌒▽⌒) keep engaging with it or don’t. I don’t see why you would willingly want to make yourselves frustrated but have fun I guess.

Ohhhh okok. I see what you are saying, nvm you’re right. I was wrong, I apologize. Completely my fault for misunderstanding your intentions. I had to go back and re-read everything because something wasn’t right. My brain wasn’t braining and connecting the dots.

Honestly one of the more productive conversations I've had, ily

I appreciate your patience. Thanks for putting up with my idiocy lol. Hey, hope you have a good day :]

Aww so sweettt you too! Have a great day!!