why did this have to go down the dark romance, taboo route? one of the reasons i enjoyed this bl was bc of yujin's personality, his assertiveness and confidence -- i really despise it when the autonomy of a bottom is taken away by the top and the whole relationship becomes a demeaning power trip, especially when the execution isnt done well (and it really isn't in most bls...)
im fine with consuming media containing dark topics but when it is done lazily and out-of-character like here, it really takes the enjoyment out of the story. it becomes unoriginal, it becomes boring. the author could have done something unique with yujin and aaron's reunion; instead, her lack of creativity and imagination really shows with how the plot has progressed this season.
i also realise i've been slightlyy looking at this story with rose-coloured glasses; to be completely and totally honest i think the sexual attraction between the two leads really carries the plot (or lack thereof). but hey, what can you expect? its a manhwa
idk what you mean when you say it's going the dark route coz it was dark romance since day 1? Aaron was always obsessed with him and Yujin is still the same considering how he's still rage baiting that guy don't see any of them acting OOC here
and when you say she could have done something unique, idk he basically ran away from him and considering how obsessed he is Idt there was anyway this reunion could have been soft or happy, Aaron isn't the type to cry (yet) so we can't expect him grovelling on Yujin's feet either (yet)
what i mean is that it's really stepped into the taboo with the chaining/captivity of yujin, and him getting undressed and hickeyed-up by aaron (basically assaulted, because someone cannot consent while unconscious) while he was sleeping. obsession isnt really a dark romance trope anymore, its been saturated and you see that in most romances now
are you really telling me that aaron being a rapist is in-character for him?
being a rapist isn't a character trait, but one of the few possibilities of a dark themed story I wouldn't call this romance anymore (correcting my comment above) because of what happened in the last chapter but yeah based on the past chapters I already had a bad feeling something like this could happen and it did
i'm sick to my stomach at how people are attempting to justify a relationship between a native american man calling himself a slave with a white man being his master. for the author to specifically set her story in the historical context of the american civil war and then pay no respect to the brutal oppression and mistreatment of slaves is so disrespectful and offensive. this is a textbook 'white saviour' trope that will romanticise the historical abuse that slaves suffered and it shows she truly does not care about any other minority but her own
the reveal of myeong-il's complaint letter at the end of chapter 36 lowkey made me tear up. his use of incorrect spelling revealing that he didn't even receive an adequate education + the last line "do what a prison is supposed to do" showing the negligence of correctional systems/prisons, along with the content the letter was about... it really feels like a critique on the criminal justice system. i know the author probably didnt intend to do that and im reading too much into it but i cant help but sympathise with myeong-il and what he represents in reality :((
i made it 20 chapters in looking for bdsm but there was none, can someone recommend something like this but with actual bdsm i want to see a man get absolutely beaten up. preferably one ml, love triangles aren't for me
The bdsm is creeping into this manhwa though maybe you should stick with it.. :D
But some other ones:
- Jiwoo's master (bdsm, pegging, i love them sm)
- Kill me dead (not bdsm but still VERY malesub, SOME play, the ml is absolutely adorable)
- All about dominative and exclusive destruction (art is trash in the most recent chapters though, but boy the male lead does NOT get a break the poor guy, very non-consensual)
- In the doghouse (my all time fave manhwa EVER, both the ml and fl are amazing)
- Make him cry (non-consensual bdsm and very religiously disrespectful, pegging)
- Play Karma (there are multiple MLs but not a love triangle, theyre just all subs lmao, pegging, lots of bdsm but some of it is non-consensual)
There is gay s*x in this one, not too much.
- A changed man (i dont love the plot its kinda pseudo-incest, but lots of bdsm and there is kindaaa a love traingle though, pegging)
There's gay s*x in this one, but for like two chapters.
- Sadistic beauty (i hate this one with a passion but there's lots of bdsm, non-consensual though, pegging)
There's also gay s*x in this one.
- Confidentiality (aka "your secret keeper", some pegging, bdsm)
- S flower (bdsm, i dont like the fl of this one, pegging, multiple male characters though, all subs)
- Welcome to club oasis (absolutely no plot LMAO, but it has everything under the sun in this one)
Lowkey dont remember anything about this and it sucked BUT there was LOTS of bdsm, practically every single chapter.
- killer beat (not really bdsm but still VERY malesubby and the art is peak, play)
- man slave (not necessarily bdsm, some play, but mainly plot tbh, and some SA but also towards the female characters)
- doggey lovey (bdsm, pegging, not really much drama though and its quite short.)
Hope something in this list appeals to you!! (These are all manhwas, i have a fewww mangas if you want.)
Hi, sorry, that is unfortunately not within my tastes so I dont know any , the only one that comes to mind is "boo-tiful nightmare".
They are an extremely freaky couple, and try some bdsm in some later chapters where the girl gets dominated. (There is a little bit of female dominant in it but she kinda fails at that LMAO). Besides that, it is VERY male dominant.
im not really surprised that tj is endgame but i do find it truly devastating when you can tell where the author's heart lies. its clear that jo was never even considered an option, but just a plot device to progress ian and tj's relationship.
there is a lot more depth, history, shared trauma, and codependence between the latter two which makes it much harder for both partners to move on from such a strong relationship. i will say this is realistic - toxic relationships are the hardest to leave from and overcome. but jo was meant to represent progress and healing, and ian running back to tj just kind of feels like there was no point to jo's character in the plot at all.
jo, you are an angel in this absolute mess of a story. you deserve better than a man who refuses to show any character development
s1 was really good, but then it started going downhill when she explored the past of ian and tj while discarded jo most of the time. then s3 started and the scenes between ian and tj was just purely sex in the bathroom, the confession on the road, and then suddenly showing them kissing on the house ian built. how can you tell that is a good writing?










apparently youngjo will be making a comeback in s6? im conflicted! on one hand, i've been waiting for their reunion, but on another i get so anguished over his character. i can appreciate his writing, don't get me wrong, and he's written so realistically it honestly works against my better judgement -- he reminds me of many men i know in my life whom i dislike. hard for me to mentally distinguish the two and with how much pain he's caused to garam. it was also a shock to me how many people in this fandom like youngjo -- but it's a pleasant surprise, i'm glad that people don't just resort to hating on him because he played the role of an antagonist
also, am i the only one sad over how compton's arc was resolved? i'm aware he treated his orchestral members horribly and was projecting his unresolved rage on them for years, but he was a mentally tormented man who wanted to find solace in shared trauma and for the professor to run a smear campaign on him and force a hiatus on his conducting is really cruel. idk, compton really grew on me, and this may just be a side effect of reading from garam's perspective for 200 chapters but i can't find it in myself to hate him.
yeess!!! all tje characters are just so beautifully written and so terribly multifaceted-- it's almost impossible to hate on them because theyre just so human.... compton really deserves better ...
He’s not really an antagonist thou. He’s just a troubled kid with a lots of unresolved issues. He did some bad deeds but that’s doesn’t make him a bad person at all. At the end of the day, every body is an angel in their own story. I mean if you look at it from Naeun’s angle, Garam is almost as bad as Heejae. Just because she’s extremely privileged, doesn’t mean Heejae can take away her opportunity like that. That’s the beauty of this story. A lots of imperfect people in searching of their dreamed version of perfection. I love all these men/ women is this story honestly & he has a special place in my heart. That being said, I dare say that among all those men, Youngjo is def an industry plan, BDK’s fav. And why I’m saying that, he is the only men that makes appearance in the official merch along with Heejae ^_^
"antagonist" doesn't mean a character is evil; it just means that they act in opposition to the protagonist. it's about what role a character is serving in the narrative, not necessarily a commentary on their morality. so it's absolutely accurate to say that youngjo served as an antagonist in the first season
ditto!
Nope. My point stand stills. Like I said, he’s not exactly antagonist. He serves as equal as 1st season with Garam. If anything, he is more deuteragonist. He has hus path BOTH in supporting & cornering Garam in the story line.
what??? he's absolutely not set up as an equal deuteragonist alongside garam. the story is told from garam's perspective, and youngjo's entire arc is about thwarting garam. we just get some scenes from youngjo's POV to explore his perspective and motivation. but all of that perspective and motivation is tied to his purpose of being an obstacle for garam, the protagonist.