Wasn't there already ch102 upload? I swear to god I already read this, and then when he gets better, he leaves the apartment but horse face follows him out and they both cry on the street and make up and say they love each other. And there was a bonus chapter or some sh?
Are these different stories wtf is going on?
In Kiss me if you dare Grayson is shown as an obviously bad guy. He traumatized his younger brother so badly that he literally goes in half comatose state when he sees a dog. He said that if need be he would've (and Chase too, should) rape their younger brother that's omega. And now ppl in the comments be saying how parents were actually bad to grayson while Chase and Bliss got the best treatment... While Chase was being traumatized from the start. Like can the author pick and not make red herrings to fit the narrative and make each ML a poor soul that's misunderstood. Like how is it better to tell your brother he fucked a dog, then to tell him he slept with an omega. All the while the brother is obviously having a panic attack. Or to tell to that same brother that you would rape your younger omega brother if that's the last possible option.....like ok he is unhinged but then don't try to make it out like he is a poor abused soul
Just so u know the Author fav character itself is Grayson and she wrote KMIYC and all other miller stories centered around Grayson eventhough she released desire me if you can the last, she had already prepared the story for Grayson that's the reason Grayson is in every single story of all other siblings. No she didn't give a sad backstory she just made people understand Grayson. So Nope she didn't change anything
I think what people are defending is the fact that Greyson is messed up like his mind is very illogical so he ends up thinking a bad or immoral action is the right answer, the problem is that the parents didn't know how to deal with him and only created a harsh environment for him and the other kids, but Greyson and his twin sister manifested their dominant traits from the moment they were born, while the other kids didn't, and it's explained extreme alphas are very weird and cold, Ashley is the living example of a destroyed alpha by pheromones, that's why they need to have sexual intercourse very often to release them or else they get crazy. I think what makes people care about Grayson and others forgive him (I'm not the case though) is the fact he's not evil on purpose (? Like, he does bad stuff but he's genuinely trying to help, for example when he did the dog thing to Chase and the comments he made, he's simply nuts but not bad, lmao.
But yeah, I don't like people forgetting the nasty stuff he did and he does, like bruh, I get it, he's cute and all of that at times but the man is manipulative and knows how to get his way with people's emotions hahaha, like every time he acts in self defense and almost kill people.
He isn't different in this, he legitimately still doesn't understand or care about other peoples feelings. It's why he's 'loved' and ghosted so many people, he doesn't care about stepping on their hearts. That's why it's so nice to see Dane put him through the emotional ringer
Please nite that each stories has their own POV of the main characters, in KMIYC, it is chase's POV.
did you read all the other povs or at least the novel to say all this? or just from the kmiyc manhwa pov? bc he technically was a poor abused soul with a mental condition since birth. Novel readers do not make up things.
It's just a different POV from each characters. Just like how a person we know in real life have different version from us versus their family, other friends, coworker, or lovers. In this series, we just get to know Grayson more. Chase seems to be the only sibling who despise him which is very valid, the other were kind of okay with him. Grayson's twin thinks he's an idiot, while the youngest think he's helpful.
This is why I'm so confused because at the end of the day he traumatized the living hell out of his siblings. They're broken. People in the comment section is saying that he's just misunderstood he has problems too but come on.
grayson couldn't be called manipulative and he definitely doesn't know how to get his way with ppl's emotions like u said, bc he himself doesn't understand emotions and is only basically copying what he sees and watches from others. Aren't these shown in the 3rd chapter I think?
Idk what siblings he traumatized except chase, literally Bliss the youngest loves Grayson and Grayson treats Bliss so well if you read deflower me if you can. Just chase has problems and Grayson was genuinely thinking he was helping Chase but it actually hurt Chase which Grayson doesn't realise so try to read Desire me if you can from a different perspective with fresh mindset instead of sticking with Chase pov cause u won't enjoy the series if u just keep sticking with Chase pov
Are you sure we read the same novel? He knows what he's doing many times, but yeah, he doesn't understand emotions like normal people do, but he knows how to create positive emotions in people like when he loved bombed all the people he thought were his destiny and left them behind when he realized they weren't, or when he acts in self defense almost killing someone because he knows that he's not doing wrong, only acting in "self-defense" the boy is manipulative because he acts in accordance to what he believes will make people act the way he wants, but yeah, he hardly understands his own emotions let alone other people's.
Lmao u will never understand he only behaves and acts like how Ashley thought him for self defence, so if someone's killing Grayson he should just take it wow? Like I don't understand ur just blatantly hating on Grayson, if u really hate Grayson then don't read Desire me if you can, let us Grayson and DMIYC fans enjoy it. You can't change out perspective cause we actually understood Grayson and loved him. And manipulation like bruh he def acts like he is in love hoping that they are his fated partner yes what he done is wrong for those people leaving them after they are not his fate but that doesn't mean he is a very bad character he doesn't realise that he is hurting the other person cause he himself hasn't experienced Love or feelings. I genuinely don't know how to make you understand Grayson pov but nonetheless Grayson is a very good and well written complex character.
He's just unintentionally manipulative, it's not like he means it in fact he doesn't even have any idea what he's doing most of the time. He's not a straight fucked up evil guy, he's not like his grandfather, his problem is the way he perceive right and wrong. His intentions are good but the way he act upon them is messed up.
When did I say I hate him? I love the story and I've read it several times, but one thing is to love the story and a very different point is to ignore what Grayson character actually is, yeah, he's not a bad person but he's not your number one icon, the best brother or best ex boyfriend, he acted very shitty and still do at times but he changed because he's slowly understanding about how others experience their emotions, besides, what Ashley taught him is crucial to who he is and yeah I get it, it's not only because Grayson was messed up from his birth, his parents had much to do in the way he acts, but you can't pin the blame all on the parents, Grayson actually tried to kill Koi, even if it wasn't intentional, and you're telling me it's all Ashley's fault? B fr
Yeah, he's not evil and that's the only reason I like him, like, he's a person who needed a very specific care and instruction, but he very much become a menace to others and unfortunately his dad thought he was just like his grandpa (Dominic) and thus he didn't act like the best dad.
yes but calling it manipulative when he doesn't understand and just practices what he watched isn't exactly the same as actually knowing how things works. It didn't require him thinking of the actual manipulative way to get through situations. It's like an AI getting info from people's thoughts. I hope u get what I'm trying to say.
I guess there's no other way to call it as it appears that way. I understand. It just felt like a wrong term.
Omg you get it!! The only thing he learnt is to do things that would make ppl like him, he doesn't think about the effects of his actions at all, he js thinks it's for their own good, that's why he lied to Chase.
yes coz he only focuses on the positive outcome, not caring about the process
Lmao, chase is also a nutcase and psyco and he was literally known as mad dog. It was so hard to find bodyguards for him cs he shoot them up. And he was totally normal, his Pheromones didn't affected his brain unlike Nathaniel, Grayson and Ashley. He intentionally shoot ppl, he intentionally pushes Henry out of the heli, fully aware that it might take their life. And don't even say that was cs of his childhood and trauma. If chase actions can be justified cs of that, Grayson case is way more justified then. Also chase personality didn't change even after his trauma was over. He never even felt guilty abt his actions unlike Grayson. He just softened for Josh, he still severely injured dozens of ppl in the side stories. Still not feeling guilty. Josh also ignored and just warned chase a bit. Why?? Cs they were some random character whose life doesn't matter??? At least Grayson realises wht he did was wrong even tho that wasn't intentional. Chase never. Oh but Chase is Angel
I mean, manipulation whether used for positive or negative purpose is still manipulation, above in some comment someone said he said all that horrible stuff to scare Chase off so he would release his pheromones, ultimately creating a very negative view on Chase, so he did try to manipulate him to do something he didn't want to. I mean, Grayson is still an adult so he understands at some degree what he does but like I said before, he has his own understanding of emotions.
I'll explain my view again bc it seems we're on different argument tables ㅜㅜ
The manipulation was manipulation, all you said was true I am not denying it, except a bit of the last one. His way was learned by copying manipulation from others. And likely without knowing it IS manipulation. So I said it felt wrong to call him a manipulator since he only absorbs and applies what he learned, all the while without understanding "feelings".
Also, in the end I said I understand you for calling him that.
But for me, he manipulates? Yes. Can we call him a manipulator? No, if considering all the variables. Maybe yes, if we simply don't wanna think deeply and just fuck with the term whatsoever.
Omg girl I totally forgot about that, holy shit, thanks for knocking me into my senses, most of Chase's fans are blinded by his trauma, forgetting how he was literally called a mad dog, even way before his trauma, I was arguing with someone who made Chase seem like an absolute angel Mary Sue defending him js cuz he's the only "normal" one in the family, at the end of the day he still act like a dominant alpha. He's js seem tamer bc Josh is an absolute menace.
Exactly being normal and doin all those shits can be forgiven lol.
Yeah I get it, I mean, he's the result of his environment and his upbringing, ultimately he's a person that has done bad things but didn't mean bad, I just don't understand if by the end of the story he actually believes he's done wrong? To me it seemed he was just following Dane's instructions to become a better person, which is not bad, but it left me feeling Grayson didn't truly change, I might be wrong though.
That's the point, he was always a good person. It was his teachings and no guidance that made him do things accordingly. He literally had lots of therapies and treatment but his condition couldn't be cured. So its medical issue not a character issue. It would actually be wierd that if all of a sudden his condition got cured which couldn't be in all those years. That's why we are saying he was a good and kind hearted person from the beginning, he just needed a good guidance that he got from Dane. That's why I like this story a lot. It feels real unlike all those baseless redemption arcs those toxic mls got after graping mcs amd get forgiveness in an instant.
not just the upbringing, it's a condition since he was so young and couldn't be treated so they resorted to the solution of making him learn by watching. This is important. He wasn't a result of a trauma only. He has the mental condition even before he was abused and that was the cruelty done by the parents. Whether he actually believes if he's wrong or not, the important thing is he gradually learns with the guidance of others and his innate goodwill never changes.
He's actually a really nice guy. I wish everyone ends up together happy. Unnie is being kinda manipulative, I hope she doesn't hurt MC
I’m hopeful that she won’t tbh she seems fine
I think the author has to go back and reread their own story, because from volume 1 chapter fucking 1 it's established that Shagar DIDN'T consent to the seal. Not to mention he didn't look fonldy on it either.
Chapter 2 he even says he should've probably burned down the whole Kingdom, maybe that way he would find peace. He said that after someone used the energy he share with them for killing someone. He not only had his energy sealed, now they were on his neck for using the only way to survive, which is sharing the energy. He didn't mean he would literally burn the Kingdom, but in those moments where he was constantly in pain he had those dark thoughts.
Luso as well. He is not a good guy. Shagar even says in first chapter that he used to be nicer to him. Chapter 1 it's implied by Luso himself, that he let's Shagar get to s critical staze of energy overfill so when he comes to take his energy, it's stronger and more potent.
In chapter 2 Shagar explains that excess or lack of energy can cause serious problems to the body long term. Luso was intentional ly damaging Shargar's health for his selfish reasons. It's not healthy, in the long run, for Shargar to reach his upper limit and vomit a pool of blood repeatedly. Not only did he vomit a pool of blood, he was also unconsios and unresponsive for a while until larver amount of energy was take out him. This is literally abuse. Luso has (had) power over Shagar's life. Sure he could go and give energy to someone else, but it would take too long and it could be dangerous for him.
And now let's touch up on the Kingdom yet again. In the latest chapters Shagar mentioned he liked that his energy was sealed. Bullshit. Also said his energy wouldve been harvested if he lived somewhere else. Also bullshit. He is danger, now more than ever. By having his energy sealed, he CAN'T use magic, something even avarage people can use. What do you think could happen when a person with so much energy, but ni way to use it can't defend themselves? Power hungry people abuse them. Idk how he wasn't already kidnapped and ensalved. Thank god it didn't happen, but it doesn't make sense it didn't happen.
It's established that the reason Shagar had his energy sealed, was for peace. Other Kingdoms couldn't have him keep his power because it wouldve been a constant threat to them. The logical solution was to kill him. By keeping him alive, but with his energy sealed, it literally makes it so any person with enough strenght can abuse him. They can just kidnap him and take out his energy by force to use it for their agenda. How wasn't he targeted by other Kingdoms, underground gangs or mafia? He is literally a sitting duck. He is like a rich person full of money, and no way to protect themselves, walking around in plan daylight in the worst parts of town. He is a prime target. So how is that no one tried to attacked him, kidnapped him, or that the Kingdom even allowed him to leave the palace? Sure he saved the kingdom, but it doesn't make sense they would just let him walk away without keeping him tied to the place somehow. Otherwise their biggest asset against aggression from others is now gone (or worst can be used against them by their enemies).
Its just a bunch of plot holes. Why didn't they contact him immediatley when they realized Fio can't regenerate magic fast enough? If they cared about him as much as they claim, they couldve called him instantly to make Shagar his teacher. It would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Fio gets energy to use magic AND the best teacher to learn said maigic. Sure, Shagar was sick and tired of the palace, but that was BECAUSE of what they did to him. After the war, he was jaded that he lost so much, used to much to win the war, and had all the blood on his hands, and he got treated like that? Who wouldn't want to get as far away from the place.
Also there is s plot hole in chapter 2 and chapter 7.5
In chapter 2 Shagar is thinking about Fio and how it's possible that he couldn't find work because of discrimitaion of darker skinned folk, but that it shouldn't be that bad because the remembers he heard the King married a Southern Princess. BUT IN CHAPTER 7.5 HE WAS THERE WHEN FIO WAS ALREADY BORN.
End of chapter 7.5 we see Shagar blowing up a part of the palace. Fio was already at half s year old. He was there when Shagar blew up the palace. So it doesn't make sense for Shagar to act like he HEARD that the king married the Southern Princess when he should 100% know that. He could still use magic when Fio was born, and he was still at the palace when the King got married to Fio's mother. So not only should he know all of this, he probably should've known Fio as well, because they found out early on Fio couldn't use magic. So Shagar wouldve still been at the palace st that time. He should've done the age math and put 2 and 2 together. . A young man of southern decent that ran away from home, with expensive jewlery and powerful protective spells on them (+ tracking spell), has almost non existant energy regeneration.
U should read the vol 1 this one has alot of the story cut out
?? Dude I am talking about volume one. I read both volume one and the recent chapters for volume 2. That's why Im saying that the plot in volume 2 doesn't make sense, with the established information we have from volume 1
Agreed. Volume 2 is just trash at this point
After this I want side story (or another manhwa all together) for his younger bro and the best friend. I NEED THAT HATE FUCK. Especially since the omega is in control
pls I was searching for their panels all day
did you find the one where the brother infers they slept together i think on the trip which is around like chapter 47
Honestly, he got the best chemistry with the twins. And they actually did everything he wanted. Respectful kings
factsss
How is his body like this? When you look at his previous body it's obvious he was at least the same size as Mephisto, but now he looks like a twink? Like, he looked even bigger than Mephisto, he looked closer to Nergal but without the broad shouders and muscles.
Might’ve been the magic he had.
Since he doesn’t a large amount of magic anymore that probably shrunk him.
I like how she is saying she went into Jinx trying to do and get better and the only thing that is better is the art. Everything else is the same if not worse. The story telling, the pacing, the plot, the unconsensual SA. Hoenstly when you compare the 2 stories they are basically the same.
First season MC is in love with ML and gives it his all for ML. ML uses MC for his own gain. End of season, MC leaves and trys to forget the ML. ML gets hit in the face that he actually likes MC. Between all that shows up a friend of ML that shows interest in MC (in BJ Alex it was a fake out because the other streamer actually liked MC's friend and not him) but either way it's the same thing, they serve as a plot device to push ML towards MC. 2nd season is ML "groweling" to get the MC's love back. At least in BJ Alex, Alex wasn't physically intimidating. He is bigger that the MC but he there weren't scenes where he was using his physique to overpower him or make him comply.
And in both stories 2nd couple has healthier relationship. Although in Jin we don't know how the relationship between the Potato and Actor will turn out, since he had ulterior motives, but in BJ Alex the 2nd couple is peak.
Meant to like :(