Whalee's Topics (19)

You might be dumb

What is it that you don't understand?

The feelings shared

The feelings between the characters? Or what feelings exactly?

Yes , it's not love for sure , i mean the main character with his partners, what is it he's looking for exactly in relations and am confused whether he's in love with the short black haired dude or is it just attachement

Ah, you mean Takatora and his feelings. Well, I think Takatora had genuine feelings for Kameyama (Kameyama also, imo, helped Takatora live out that alpha lifestyle by having someone he wants to care for and pamper, but Kameyama isn't the type of person for traditional gender roles, so they were too incompatible at the end of the day), but because his own insecurities around his omega identity and very different world views got the best of him (especially wanting a child, knowing Kameyama wants to be child free), it broke them apart. I think what Takatora felt for Arisaka (his first relationship in high school) was more so lust, maybe some feelings and care mixed (as shown when he was talking about wanting to take care of Arisaka and his dreams), as he was his first intimate experience with the same secondary gender after his omega manifestation, and the first omega Takatora could practice the alpha gender role with imo. However, what Takatora displays a lot besides some actual feelings towards most partners is some sort of possessiveness and his partners are often used for him to play out his alpha performance fantasy, so sometimes, it feels like partners are more so accessories than actual people for him, which opens up this emotional rift between Takatora and others. But I think Takatora truly admired and respected Kameyama (black haired guy), and learned from him. As to Takatora and his relationship with Osuzume, I'm a bit unsure what he feels with the information we have now, but I'm guessing Takatora sees his own alpha image ideal in Osuzume, which draws him to an omega who seemingly doesn't look like his usual type (Takatora usually goes for the dainty, small omegas). That for sure indicates some complicated feelings, but they're yet to develop imo. As of now, to me, Osuzume feels a bit like a rebound, almost a consolation prize for Takatora after the 7 year (I think?) relationship with Kameyama. I think Kameyama was his one genuie love so far.

I think he does actually have feelings for Kameyama, with how deeply he's affected by their breakup. It's just that with the fked up way he's raised he is def not the most introspective of his own feelings? Nor is it make him less prone to making the most unexpected turn of a decision whenever shit happen. Theres also the implication of him possibly being polyamorous so...

Thank u for explaining in such great way and for the good analysis + i think takatora understand the world of omegas but deeply can't accept he belongs to it

He definitely is

You're very welcome and you're very spot on with that observation about Takatora! That's actually a very precise way of putting it. He understood it more and more, especially with Kameyama's deep insight and the omega highschool class, but he struggles with accepting it for himself because he was socialized to be an alpha.

At this point I think Takatora is semi-consciously cosplaying toxic masculinity/alpha gender roles because he can't acknowledge how the need to control and subdue his lovers reflects how insecure and fragile he feels. Having been on both ends of discrimination, he knows better than to keep trying to seduce capable omegas into sacrificing their goals. He still believes omegas stay single and struggle only after failing to attract a provider. At the same time, he is gaslighting himself to rationalize clinging to the crumbs of support and status his family provides and accepts to pay the price, not realizing he already has the means to grow fully independent from their expectations. He licks the boot, thinking he's entitled to wear it after fulfilling his role, but he will NEVER do so—the ones holding the power enforce the belief omega traits surpass any accomplishments or abilities.
Feelings aside, he sees himself as an elegant pragmatic saving omegas from their misery (according to his selfish perception). Suisei with his strong body, submissive desires to perform as an omega and financial stress, is Takatora's perfect match. As a bonus, he can keep tabs on his exes and not feel burdened by a romantic relationship because he's fully aware that Suisei kinda hates his guts. Takatora can placate his ego, appease his family, solidify his status and overall profit from Suisei without sacrificing anything and providing the bare minimum. The only feelings present (currently) in this relationship are probably just envy, jealousy, heartbreak and a savior complex sprinkled with a misplaced sense of duty.

I just wanted to say that god damn you're so well-versed. Like, after reading what u said I really was like DAMN. Right on the moneyyy. (also coming from a place of someone whose english is not their first language, and your comment was really easy to understand)

Well saiddd

Someone cooked here (honestly, this explains the dynamic splendidly)

For real, we don't want another wipe out and Sage first message scared the shi out of me

It is ultimately selfish. The past students, no matter how hard they try develop their individuality, will always experience things that link back to Prof. It's a reoccurance thats builds deep resentment. It seems that Compton might have been the closest out of all students aside from Garam, and from his personal injustice he feels he needs to liberate all others affected, its something so strong it blinds him. He thinks he's free but he is the most in shackles out of his own personal vendetta. The visuals show that as much as he hates Kim, he has ultimately become him... in a lesser extremity

Yea like garam had a looong way to reach this close point with prof i hope he doesn't let himself being controlled by compton