Lanny's Topics (5)

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Physiotherapists and doctors are two different healthcare professions with different educational pathways and scopes of practice. That being said, not knowing those stuff at his big age is crazy

I mean they say nurses and doctors are the worst patients for a reason and also I think he knows where it is. I think he’s going through denial. I think he’s purposely lying to himself because he doesn’t want to face reality.

My best friend got a masters in nursing and she be asking the dumbest medicine questions I ever heard

I think the cognitive dissonance comes from the fact as to how much he is praised and highly valued in the hospital where he works, how much his colleagues and ML keep him in such high regard when it comes to job performance and thoroughness, except for that jealous person but his jealousy is itself indicative of how insecure he is supposed to be to act like that. Same point. It's contradictory behaviour, and it does read too obviously visible for reader to allow the discrepancy without giving it an explanation not hinted at before anywhere in the story itself, ie, some doctors ignore their ailments. Sure, he is a physiotherapist, but one can be excused to not have taken seriously such major and unprecedented changes in one's body if they were a non medical regular person, how a doctor as prized as he is, it does read unconvincing. that explains the reason for cognitive dissonance. Plus it's not uncommon in BLs to have shallow logic. It's more common than not.

Baby girl the denial is not just on a medical basis like yes, you will see a lot of very valid points and that was half of what I was conveying but the other half is that he doesn’t want to believe that he is Omega. He doesn’t want to believe that he is exactly what the person he loves the most hates the most he wants to lie to himself and not face the reality that he is becoming an omega because he loved this person so much he would rather lie to himself to keep his love than to face the reality and hurt his love and himself not to mention he’s been obeyed his whole life, and he’s been surrounded by all of this omega discrimination it’s like in K-pop demon hunters rumi is lying to her self and her best friends and betrayed her duty bc she doesn’t want to be or believe she’s a demon

First of all, I am not baby girl. I didn't call you a name, I will appreciate if you didn't either.

What I am talking about happens before he is diagnosed a pregnant. I am saying one thing is explicit, ie, his being a superior doctor which is 'explicitly' portrayed in the narrative. He might have not wanted to admit he is an omega and the denial was there for a couple days AFTER HE IS TOLD, NOT BEFORE, but even that bit missed the point. He is a doctor, but he didn't really put that information he learnt in school to use despite being a medical professional. He didn't put two and two together, and for such a smart medical professional, it reads like a bad writing choice. Because fact is he does admit reading such anecdotes in college but didn't remember them, when he is discussing it with the doctor. So what this means, is that there are precedents that such cases happen even if they are rare. And cmon, they live in Omegaverse , why would such a crucial piece of common knowledge be that strange to A DOCTOR? Now this information might be a big deal for someone not in the profession, but for a doctor to bypass it so easily is definitely a writing oversight. Also, another very important thing. - The storytelling rule is that reader connects the dots about the story and the characters with what he is being told and shown explicitly plus the subtext. But even in subtext, he comes off as calm and composed. He definitely doesn't come off as disturbed given how quickly he adjusts to it, how efficiently the takes the information and becomes proactive as to how to deal with the ML. Even his hospital lady friend remarks on it and shows frustration at how well he is taking it. He definitely doesn't come off as some vulnerable, incapable, emotional person struggling to contain his problems. He takes reigns of his situation pretty quickly. He overcomes his immediate issues very well, which only suggests that he should show similar proficiency in his medical instinct. It's very common for BL writers to give a weak excuse to go to the next arc to move the story forward but don't deliver it properly. Not all of them are that thoughtful and fail to make it convincing.

It's easy for readers to give imaginary explanations to a character, something which isn't not foreshadowed, hinted, or presented coherently in the narrative. But storytelling rules work with writing tools and a thoroughly knowledge of human behavior and perception of human behavior. The better the writing is, the more convincing hence enjoyable/satisfying it is. The writing directs perception, you dont draw your conclusions from what might have happened, you use what's told to you by the creator through their visual and textual and storytelling tools. You cant simply make things up in your head to correct inconsistencies because they are more convenient. Good writers know that how to give information about characters through playing with the right scene building, context building and with the help of supporting characters. And this is a universal rule for storytelling, it doesn't follow the whims of readers. Writer definitely messed up the messaging and perception of the uke's character, and the users are obviously noticing it.

*which isn't foreshadowed/hinted

So I used a term of endearment I’m sorry that offended you it would been the same if I called you dude and yes I agree that doctors should have almost basic understanding but you are not taking to count that he is not a body doctor in the sense of secondary gender, jeans, and things like that he probably took a basic medical course because he’s a specialized doctor for physiotherapy. He works with bodies that have been through trauma and surgeries and things like that. He’s basically a muscle and bone doctor to get them to whatever physical capacity they need to. Second of all it is rare for you to present at such a late age. The doctors even said and then take that with the fact that the person he loves hates omega’s and that he’s seen nothing but omega discrimination of course he’s not gonna wanna be an omega. Of course his subconscious is going to try and blame it out. Of course he’s gonna make excuses and he’s gonna be in denial specially when he’s been a beta his whole life and has never shown any signs. It’s just like how people try to lie to themselves when they get other serious illnesses like cancer they’re going blind. They tried to be like no that’s not possible why because it’s easier to lie to yourself to face reality Dr. Singh oh I know so much about health and I know how to be healthy. How could I have got this or there’s no way it’s true I would’ve noticed sooner but it doesn’t always work like that. You’re trying to fit everything into a tiny box to make it seem like oh he’s just an idiot when there were other plausible explanations they just don’t fit the narrative you are imposing and being a good doctor isn’t just about being the smartest they like that he’s good with people. He takes care of his patience. He talks to everybody his boyfriend funds the hospital, and he’s good at his direct job. He’s good kinesthetics He’s good at physiotherapy. He is a practical person, but he deserves the grace to be a normal regular person too. I am in child development I had to take very common and basic classes to pass. I don’t remember a lot of things that happened in college. I remember my specialty I remember what I had to train for and just because I am good in child development and therapy. Doesn’t mean the best in adult. I learned about it but different time periods different malleability I would have to go back to the spot that I was and yeah, sometimes doctors are stumped. I when I was 19 years old developed a lung tumor and it took three days in the hospital of oxygen, leaving my body for one doctor to figure it out and then he told me basically I can’t help you. I was barely able to catch this mind you he’s an ER doctor. He goes through all of these things. He said you’re so young. it’s crazy that I wasn’t even able to see that this happened and I need to go to a specialist the specialist my pulmonologist said the same thing that he was so shocked and that this is rare that it happens to somebody this young normally this happens to very much older people and I was kind of in denial because I’m 19 years old I’m in college. I’m partying I’m playing sports and all that had to be cut off and changed. I had to start taking medicine I had to be on a daily regimen. It was a lot to take in and to be honest at first I didn’t really feel or care to think I was sick. It took the pain coming back for me to actually deal with that reality I sat with a lot of people who told me oh like you handle it so much better than you thought or they were crying and grieving for me and was because I couldn’t face it myself. It’s hard when your whole life has changed and uprooted from what you have known loved and lived you’re giving him no grace because you as an outsider feel, he should fit into a nice clean little box. It’s not how life works not how the human mind works. Sometimes people need to lie to themselves before they could cope with the situation. And a lot of times when people don’t react certain way people think they are being mature that they are taking it well well he’s not. He’s just internalizing it at all. He’s sad he’s hurting. He’s just not displaying it outwardly he decided he has to buck up and do what he has to for his baby which we see a lot of mothers do. I mean, you could even use examples of when we find out that people have other sexual organs down the lines when people figure out their intersex they go through an identity crisis. They go through shock they go through denial they wanna lie to themselves oh, I’ve been a girl this whole time. How could I be a boy or vice versa
And perception is a matter of opinion and a lot of what you’re saying is hypocritical because you’re pushing your own interpretation, perception and opinion and denying mine. I said I agree with you, but I said I could also see why he would do that and maybe that’s because my profession I studied you in mind so maybe I could put it into a different perspective than you identity sexuality gender is one of the largest confusions of the human mind and a large developmental process each gender and my challenges and gets confused with gender and or sexuality so it is not that big of a leap for me to say yeah he’s denying his truth not only for himself, but for the one he loves the mind is a crazy place people literally block out and perceive things the way they want to to protect their reality I think you’re taking little details and running with it putting your own sub context on it. People could be good at their jobs and still not be in touch with themselves their emotions in their body. I’ve met therapists who need therapy and then will deny it because they have a good understanding of the mind. My friend literally had a mental breakdown at her internship because she couldn’t realize that she had BPD. She was top of our class. She was one of the smartest people I know, but the logic of oh it couldn’t happen to me or oh. I know this too well tends to cloud people’s judgment like I said at this point it kind of feels like you’re ignoring everything else to just say oh why is he such a good doctor and Missed something so simple because he’s human human makes mistakes humans lie to each other to themselves and being a good doctor doesn’t mean you’re the smartest and smart people can do dumb things intentionally or not and there are many types of intelligence it doesn’t always carry over and emotional intelligence and maturity is one of the hardest things to measure/learn or innately have especially in men

So in the end I’m just saying he’s a complex character and that he’s within the realm of duality and his dynamic can’t be shoved into a neat box or a subjective narrative he has humanity to him I’m not trying to fight just saying that there’s other elements explanations and perspectives it’s like when somebody’s cheated on and they don’t wanna believe it even though they are presented with so much evidence, but because they love the person and believe that the person loves them back, they’ll lie to themselves even though they know the person so well, they don’t wanna believe that they are capable of that and they could be a lawyer, a doctor it could happen to anybody I need rather lie to themselves to preserve an idea and the false reality or to not disrupt their life and yeah, we could see it is stupid yeah but it happens a very human experience. That’s why we know what denial is. And hindsight is 2020 we are the observer. We are looking in with more information than the subject. Im not saying you are wrong just a bit judgmental and closed off to other interpretations bc not one person is king many artists say people never truly get their meaning message or process but can see the other interpretations some they hate, some they don’t see sense in, others they love even more than their own but it’s all subjective at the end of the day

Also sorry for the typos I was rushing

With all due consideration, that's not how the story reads. What I said still stands. Stories have form for a reason. But I think I have said what i needed to.

I don't think he will ever be redeeemed either. He will just become slightly better because the person he wants to be with abhors this version of him. So, he will be kinder to appease the person he is obssessed with. That is all there is to it

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ml becomes an extreme green flag when he realizes his feelings for mc. this is a novel about regret/grovel/tragedy. ml falls in love with mc, whom he used/abused, for basically no reason at all, and that becomes his karma and weakness. admittedly, the change is very jarring bc of the vast difference between his past self and future self; but soon after he realizes his feelings an incident happens (which is entirely his fault) then there is a 5 year time skip where mc pretends he is dead and ml is consumed with regret/despair to the point he tries to commit suicide, so with that in mind, the 180 personality change (only with mc) that partly came with elation upon discovering mc was alive kinda makes sense. that aside, imo the redemption is pretty good. ofc, the fact that mc never forgives him 90% of the story, and other characters and even the narrative itself never let ml forget what a scumbag he was is doing the heavy lifting. but the story ensures ml suffers the consequences of his past actions, and reminds him that it is his karma, and as a result, he becomes a groveling simp who would do literally anything to earn his forgiveness. he would lap up any scrap of attention mc would give him, even knowing it's false. he doesnt give a crap when mc tries to kill him multiple times. he would even voluntarily die if that's what mc wants, which finally moves mc. at the very last chapter, ml lets mc go and says mc can return when he has fully forgiven him and can move on from the past, which only occurs after 6 years. ngl i quite enjoy angst novels with groveling mls, but im pretty picky... but this story was really satisfying and cathartic.

for me the idea that you could ever make up for something like that is what is wrong. that being sorry makes up for it. i want a story where the seme goes through what he put the uke through and still ends up alone. any recs