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Nipsy April 6, 2024 12:53 pm

I definitely prefer the original translation, I actually feel like it makes more sense at times and is more charming... I love this story and I just have to say (although i guess its an unpopular opinion) that I think the seme gets a bad rep that I don't think he fully deserves. Hosik's biggest flaw is that he is terribly influenced by the opinions of others. Almost every single conflict in the story is the result of him overhearing someone or him listening to Jiwoon. The seme even says it at one point, Hosik is always worried about something new after he sees Jiwoon. And Jiwoon does undermine their relationship every single chance he gets. For example, Hosik did like the seme, but when he asked Jiwoon what he thought of a male couple Jiwoon said it was gross and Hosik immediately questioned his feelings and avoided the seme. When he was drunk on the infamous night he told the seme that he liked him and the seme didn't know he wasn't fully conscious until the next morning. I'm not defending r@pe but if Hosik remembered what happened he would not have considered it r@pe. I understand if thats a deal breaker for you, but for a yaoi, I feel like it's not as bad as people are making it out to be? My point is that Hosik wanted to be with sungyeon, didn't want to have an abortion, and was only doing the opposite because he was being influenced by others opinions. Jiwoon forces him to get an abortion when it's clear he doesn't want one and would be traumatized by it! (It's actually common for people who receive abortions to suffer from mental health issues afterward). If I was the seme I would also not want Hosik to hang out with a friend who sewed conflict in our relationship... whatever you may think of it, if Hosik had just agreed.to wear the tracking bracelet and showed the seme that he didn't have to worry or be anxious, like 85% of the conflict could have been avoided. Obviously the seme has abandonment issues ingrained into his very soul, and the solutions for abandonment is not learning to be fine alone, it's solved by total trust and connection with someone! The most autonomy is found in relationship where they are very connected to eachother. Sungyeon really only acts crazy when Hosik is vulnerable, i.e. when he's pregnant and is actually at much higher risk. I would be comforted by know my SO was able to find me wherever an issue arose. Literally it's just Jiwoon nagging him about how the seme is crazy (without ever actually really getting to know him) and how Hosik needs to fight him. Hosik doesn't even have anything to hide... what's the big deal if it calms the person you love when they are stressed? Honest Hosik has a rich husband who is devoted, loving, and spoils the hell out of him. He actually doesn't ask for anything too crazy, his biggest problem is that he doesn't ask, he just does... if he did I think Hosik would agree but it's his domineering approach that makes Hosik resistant but it's almost always out of genuine and understandable concern. My long point is that is Hosik acted on what he felt and actually wanted rather than what he thinks he should want because other people say so, then the seme would probably have cooled down some of his more toxic behaviors... and it's true that they are absolutely toxic at times... I just also pity him and understand the emotional trauma is real
Say what you will about Hosik not needing to compromise at all, but relationships are built on compromise and they clearly are destined to love each other
Also I'm gonna try real hard to resist replying to any responses for my peace of mind I just had to type this out
Edit: reposted cause I have to defend this story occasionally cause I love it so much and I don't fully hate Jiwoon but I think he's a prideful know it all that thinks he knows much better than Hosik

    April 6, 2024 7:31 pm

    You know what, I get it

    I.Need.My.Daddy April 7, 2024 7:09 am

    You are absolutely right. This is my fourth time reading

    Muypicante April 13, 2024 5:43 am

    100% - I've never liked Jiwoon

    HoneyBunch April 13, 2024 7:36 am

    I agree with the Jiwoon part. I think he was not a great friend, yet, people think he was and demonize seongyeon/sunbae ( ̄へ ̄)

    Muypicante April 13, 2024 1:08 pm
    I agree with the Jiwoon part. I think he was not a great friend, yet, people think he was and demonize seongyeon/sunbae ( ̄へ ̄) HoneyBunch

    Facts!

    Blubeagle April 13, 2024 3:29 pm

    Accurate.

    akane006 April 14, 2024 2:26 am

    I agree 100% but, I still like Jiwoon, I think he's funny and I like their friendship jijjiji I also feel the need to defend this series from time to time... I lost count of how many times I've read it

Nipsy January 9, 2024 10:29 am

I definitely prefer the original translation, I actually feel like it makes more sense at times but its still early so we'll see. I love this story and I just have to say (although i guess its an unpopular opinion) that I think the seme gets a bad rep that I don't think he fully deserves. Hosik's biggest flaw is that he is terribly influenced by the opinions of others. Almost every single conflict in the story is the result of him overhearing someone or him listening to Jiwoon. The seme even says it at one point, Hosik is always worried about something new after he sees Jiwoon. And Jiwoon does undermine their relationship every single chance he gets. Hosik did like the seme, but when he asked Jiwoon what he thought of a male couple Jiwoon said it was gross and Hosik immediately questioned his feelings and avoided the seme. When he was drunk on the infamous night he told the seme that he liked him and the seme didn't know he wasn't fully conscious until the next morning. I'm not defending r@pe but if Hosik remembered what happened he would not have considered it r@pe. I understand if thats a deal breaker for you, but for a yaoi, I feel like it's not as bad as people are making it out to be? My point is that Hosik wanted to be with sungyeon, didn't want to have an abortion, and was only doing the opposite because he was being influenced by others opinions. Jiwoon forces him to get an abortion when it's clear he doesn't want one and would be traumatized by it! (It's actually common for people who receive abortions to suffer from mental health issues afterward). If I was the seme I would also not want Hosik to hang out with a friend who sewed conflict in our relationship... whatever you may think of it, if Hosik had just agreed.to wear the tracking bracelet and showed the seme that he didn't have to worry or be anxious, like 85% of the conflict could have been avoided. Obviously the seme has abandonment issues ingrained into his very soul, and the solutions for abandonment is not learning to be fine alone, it's solved my total trust and connection with someone! The most autonomy is found in relationship where they are very connected to eachother. Sungyeon really only acts crazy when Hosik is vulnerable, i.e. when he's pregnant and is actually at much higher risk. I would be comforted by know my SO was able to find me wherever an issue arose. Literally it's just Jiwoon nagging him about how the seme is crazy (without ever actually really getting to know him). Hosik doesn't even have anything to hide... what's the big deal if it calms the person you love when they are stressed? Honest Hosik has a rich husband who is devote, loving, and spoils the hell out of him. He actually doesn't ask for anything too crazy, his biggest problem is that he doesn't ask, he just does... if he did I think Hosik would agree but it's his domineering approach that makes Hosik resistant but it's almost always out of genuine and understandable concern. My long point is that is Hosik acted on what he felt and actually wanted rather than what he thinks he should want because other people say so, then the seme would probably have cooled down some of his more toxic behaviors... and it's true that they are absolutely toxic at times... I just also pity him and understand the emotional trauma is real
Say what you will about Hosik not needing to compromise at all, but relationships are built on compromise and they clearly are destined to love each other
Also I'm gonna try real hard to resist replying to any responses for my peace of mind I just had to type this out

    wackasshoe January 9, 2024 8:15 pm

    WORD FOR WORD!!! So glad someone finally takes time to explain this manhwa, I wanna thank you for that. This is one of my favorite and I'm tired of everyone dragging this down without actually understanding the story. The story isn't perfect and it has a lot of flaws but I still adores it. I am fully aware that this isn't everyones cup of tea, we have different preference and opinions and I respect that. I want to say a lot more but that would take forever. I truly appreciate you and I hope both sides of your pillow is cold and comfortable.

    HUALIAN IS LIFE January 10, 2024 7:24 am

    Damn you said all the things I wanted to say, I appluad and AGREE so much

Nipsy December 26, 2023 12:51 am

The novel is seriously so much better, something is just different when you're not getting it fully from Seoyu's perspective, unreliableness and all. Plus the seme is way more handsome and charming and you get the extras which basically summarize the story from his view definitely recommend it

    Nipsy December 26, 2023 12:52 am

    I'm just not a fan of how the seme was drawn... just preference but they literally mention his inverted triangle figure and by the end its a rectangle it was better at the start

    Tigress December 26, 2023 2:14 am

    where can you read the novel? I checked Story Seedling but the chapters aren't there :/

    soy December 26, 2023 3:19 am
    where can you read the novel? I checked Story Seedling but the chapters aren't there :/ Tigress

    If you tried novelupdates you have to have an account so you can view the chapters but here: https://storyseedling.com/series/130648/1/

    Tigress December 26, 2023 9:20 am
    If you tried novelupdates you have to have an account so you can view the chapters but here: https://storyseedling.com/series/130648/1/ soy

    thank you! you're a lifesaver

Nipsy November 11, 2023 6:45 pm

The novel is so good!! You get to hear their thoughts, so it feels more fleshed out and they have stronger characters. Unfortunately the translation is not too far... I found a Vietnamese translation that mtls pretty well and is way past the manga thankfully

    serialyaoi November 11, 2023 7:11 pm

    Do you have the link with English translation? ヾ(❀╹◡╹)ノ~

    Lily November 12, 2023 7:55 am

    Can you send the link to the Viet translation you used??

    Nipsy November 14, 2023 8:37 pm
    Can you send the link to the Viet translation you used?? Lily

    https://zingtruyen.pro/story/bl-novel-thang-12/315555344.html

    But I noticed novel updates has a translation site listed that's on ch24 so it may be worth googling that if you haven't used the site before

    Nipsy November 14, 2023 8:39 pm
    Can you send the link to the Viet translation you used?? Lily

    Also if you read it in chrome it'll just translate the whole page so there's no copy pasting just fyi

Nipsy November 11, 2023 6:02 pm

I desperately want taeju to prove himself worthy this time! Glad he's so smitten and restraining himself for the ukes sake! Hopefully that lasts until the uke comes onto him I don't want the uke to feel pressured again! I'm forgetting his name right now

Nipsy October 8, 2023 6:24 pm

Omg I love the game they were playing, it's called Rummikub and it is so fun!! The tile hording strategy is actually super effective lol

    Lyreen October 9, 2023 12:40 am

    Lol I think to a certain degree, I wouldn't be too worried about having too much in hand but it's also luck based, so someone else could win the game faster than you by luck

    Nipsy October 9, 2023 8:22 pm
    Lol I think to a certain degree, I wouldn't be too worried about having too much in hand but it's also luck based, so someone else could win the game faster than you by luck Lyreen

    Obviously you need to play your tiles at some point... but certainly holding on to face tiles is good strategy. And it's nigh impossible for someone to go out when you have a third of the tiles in your hand lol of course it can happen but that'll be the case with any strategy. Your comment is so obvious I'm not sure why you had to make it...?

Nipsy September 19, 2023 10:35 am

So the uke has been marked already?? Not a fan of that typa angst...

Nipsy July 8, 2021 6:26 am

THAT POOR BABY NEEDS TO BE WITH HIS REAL PARENTS NOW

    somanymango July 8, 2021 6:32 am

    HE NEEDS A REAL DAMN NAME TOO. SMH BIGHEAD?? I can't

Nipsy June 12, 2021 3:59 pm

Is this angsty or wholesome? Is there any cheating?

    Byul June 14, 2021 5:14 am

    None its cute and all hihi

    Nipsy June 14, 2021 6:09 am
    None its cute and all hihi Byul

    Nice thanks!

Nipsy June 12, 2021 8:36 am

Any cheating? Like do they sleep with anyone besides eachother?

    Bl for life June 12, 2021 8:50 am

    No actual cheating but Raymond( the seme)
    Is a playboy, so he sleeps with lot of women
    But it was before he and Ian love each other
    So can't say that he is cheating

    Nipsy June 12, 2021 3:54 pm
    No actual cheating but Raymond( the seme)Is a playboy, so he sleeps with lot of womenBut it was before he and Ian love each otherSo can't say that he is cheating Bl for life

    So he sleeps with the ule and then sleeps with other women, but he stops once he loves the uke?

    Bl for life June 12, 2021 4:18 pm
    So he sleeps with the ule and then sleeps with other women, but he stops once he loves the uke? Nipsy

    Yeah it's like that, but when he slept with those women it was mostly out of business

    Nipsy June 12, 2021 6:48 pm
    Yeah it's like that, but when he slept with those women it was mostly out of business Bl for life

    Okay thanks for telling me!

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