The story will pick up from now on and the topic will become more aggressive towards the shippers of this couple. People who dislike non con fiction and end up reading this because of the popularity will grow bitter and bitter as the relationship shapes up.
My daily support for the shippers of Seungho x Nakyumn that will for sure be attacked and confronted: The author is a shipper and she is creating this story for the lovers of Seungho x Nakyum. It shows in her art. It's even progressing in her art. She clearly believes in Seungho being someone worthy of love so don't let the shamers trash you for just enjoying what the author also believes in.
Every time you see a post here shaming you for the ship, throwing asshole comments like 'you need help' or 'admit you root for a rapist' or whatever shit these jerks love to say: The author drives this ship and she is no less of a person for doing so. Neither is you.
Just remember that the biggest and stronger shipper of this couple is the author herself. Look at the official art she creates, how much she promotes this ship. Seungho and Nakyum are sold as a couple and this story was always clear about the kind of Yaoi genre that it is.
It's not you who needs help. Disliking something is natural. What is not so natural is to attack people for fictional ships, even more when it's the other people who got out of their way to read something that they disapprove of the author doing.
Ship your heart out. That's what fiction is for. Freedom.
Yess thankk u. U just expressed my heart
The whole merch and selling point of this story is the ship. The official art has become more and more romantic, I guess it's a way for the author to signal the shippers to hang in there.
If the shippers are disgusting, 'need help' and the shit, so the author is even worse by logic. Still these dumbasses pay to read it, or don't pay but create cloud and hype on a story created by someone that, according to them 'needs help and roots for rapists. Go figure how much good sense these haters have.
Y’all are not any better tho lol. If being a hater means still having a sense of morals then fine, I’ll proudly call myself a hater lmao, but to still ship them unapologetically? Imagine this for me what if you were in nakyum’s place? Would you still devotingly kiss the ground that seungho walks even though he treats you like shit and rapes you? (Genuine question on the last part)
The difference being that only you is claiming to be better. "If being a hater means still having a sense of morals"... so you think you have better morals just because we ship Nakyum and Seungho.
So you think you are better than the author as well? Just clarifying that because the author makes money out of promoting this ship with her art.
Why people can't ship unapologetically whatever fictional characters the want?
Do you think that non normative relationships in fictions should be written? Do you think apply the same morals to incest? Do you apply the same morals to rooting for criminals in fiction?
I am not disputing that for some readers, they can't enjoy a fiction unless it has the same linear standard than reality. Our boundaries and our individuals experiences, our emotional triggers all contribute to the limits of things we can tolerate in fiction. I myself can't read incest, it grosses me out, however, I really can't think of a situation where I would start reading an incest story and then keep posting shame on the shippers. Do I think that people who enjoy and read incest Yaoi stories go around fucking their siblings? No. Do I think they think its' fine? No. I just feel am I capable to understand that people may have different mechanisms and limits of their morals in fiction. I am capable of rooting for a murderous man in fiction to get away without punishment. Does that make me a bad person? No. Does people who ship 'wrong' morally things in fiction are immoral? No.
The point is not so much that you dislike something. The point is why the need to shame people just because you can't relate or understand something they ship in fiction? Despite what you just said, being here shaming shippers of POTN doesn't mean you have better sense of morals at all. You are after all reading a story made by the author who promotes this ship, that creates and sells this. You help the story to be even more talked about but hanging in here chapter after chapter so even if your aim was to eliminate these type of stories from the universe, your actions are contradictory because you read this.
So, if it makes you feel better to believe you are above shippers of some kind of Yaoi subgenera, by all means, pat yourself in the back. I think some people have this need and coming to read rape plot stories when they clearly disapprove of the trope is always a good way to boost your self appraisal.
If a man raped me I would call the police. That's real life.
Nakyum and Seungho are not real people.
My favorite character is a Yakuza boss. I root for him to be happy with his hot bodyguard. I don't root for him to pay for life of crime.
If he were a real person I would call the police on him because Yakuza in real life is one of the most cruel organizations in the world and no one associated with them is good.
Alas, because it's fiction, I allowed myself to bend whatever rule I want.
Most if not all of the shippers in rape plots are on it for the redemption story. Maybe for you the rape is the most important part of the fiction. Maybe for the shippers, the redemption and salvation of someone who couldn't be saved is the real thrill.
Regardless, it's not cool, not nice and really messed up to judge people based on what they ship on a fiction, even more YAOI of all things. The amount of 'wrong' things we all ship in Yaoi is what makes this genre vilified but also so alluring for many.
The fact that we have choices should be cheered not shamed. If rape plot stories triggers me or the shippers of it, I shouldn't read it.
What you guys do is to chase this obviously rape plot trope, knowing very well that the 'rapist' will get a redemption and end with the victim so clearly this is not the kind of story your 'morals' allow to accept ... and your pleasure is this one: to shame shippers as if you were the judges, the moral police of what other adults should ship or not.
Think about what you want: you want other people to tell you what you should ship or not, to tell you what is acceptable for you to read. That's how China does. I bet they believe themselves masters of morality but really, this is about taking upon yourself the rule of telling other people what is acceptable or not to read or ship or feel. How is that in any way 'having a sense of morals' when the line is always defined by the next shamer who sits above you?
Tf is this "you were in place" shit? This is a fictional ship and a story this is not real?? And if it is real then, shit ur right but it really doesn't make any sense that you attack people for shipping two fictional character :d if you don't like it then don't read it??? This is a FICTIONAL ship pls just think about this before commenting and hating on ppl. Ik what ur saying and I understand it, but my point is that this is a fictional ship "fictional". Its not that me or the person you are hating on is supporting rapists or like shit where ppl gets raped, no. People who ships nakyum and seungho does NOT support rapist or like rape. This is a fictional ship like I said a fictional FICTIONAL ship. Its really weird that you hate on ppl for liking a fictional ship lmao
Yes and since it's fiction, anti Seungkyum shippers are also free to express their minds!
You have all the right to be anti Seungkyum and express it, but there's no need for you to be anti Seungkyum shippers. If you target people because they ship something you don't, you are a jerk.
worded it wrong. I have nothing against the shippers, I just hate the ship
I don't know why people insist on wearing hats that are not meant for them.
If your opinion against the ship doesn't include the common shaming of the shippers this post shouldn't be of your concern.
Every time we call off shamers in here, people come talking about 'expressing opinions'. I have no idea why people choose to read a clearly non con trope if they disapprove of the trope but alas, how they waste their time is their business. However, not only are they engaged on something they knew they would get, it seems that the vast, the vast majority of the haters of the ship can't express their opinions without the extra step of shaming the shippers.
If you are by the way one of these readers who defend the shamers or pretend to be blind to the kind of topics I am talking about ( the 'you need help', the 'you all should be ashamed', the 'I demand an explanation' and all the shit, then please move on. I am so fucking tired of people pretending that the shaming of shippers in here is not rampant.
The author is a shipper. You patronize the genre by reading it. This is even more contradictory than the shippers who are just reading what they expect. If you hang around a non con story though with the only purpose to trash shippers under the veiled disguise of giving an opinion, you will be called off.
I don't like incest, I don't think anybody give a damn that I don't like incest stories. But it's one thing to waste my time reading an incest story ( I won't because I really can't relate to wasting my time on stories with relationships that I dislike) and it's another thing to post topics shaming the shippers.
You don't like the ship? Who the fuck cares? We only care if you park your moral police van in here and start lecturing people on who they should ship and trashing them for it.
Sometimes I think the story would be better if it didn't have the whole supernatural drama.
I keep losing track of the plot. Maybe it's too complicate for me.
its just too complicated for you >->
I won't argue with that. It's too complicated for me.
beeg bren
My daily reminder: FUCK YOU IF YOU ARE READING THIS STORY JUST TO SHAME SHIPPERS.
GROW THE FUCK UP. YOU ARE NOT SMARTER. NOT BETTER. NOT CUTER. NOT SUPERIOR.
You are just a child lost in a dark corner of fiction you had no business venturing yourself.
I CAN"T BELIEVE ADULT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF NON NORMATIVE RELATIONSHIP FICTION so I can only think that these poor sods hanging in here torturing themselves reading a rape plot story that will stung them to the end are children reading this just because it's popular and they can't stay away from it.
Did i forget to say Fuck you to the people who post shaming posts in here? So, yes, FUCK YOU AGAIN.
Hahahahahaha totally agree.
Noona is cool and all but one thing that is giving me the creeps is that she too thinks highly of In Hun and probably is in the dark about how much of a snake that bitch is.
If only she knew that InHun used to beat up the gay out of Nakyum, made him give up his passion for painting and that he was all too happy in pimping Nakyum to Seungho as long as he spied for him.
My fear is that Noona, believing InHun actually is the good person she thinks he is, will try to put them together or be manipulated by In Hun.
Although I think Nakyum's admiration for the teacher dimmed a lot since he saw InHun planning on spying on Seungho, I think he is still eager to please his sister and the teacher if she trusts him.
I- THANK YOU
Maybe I'm getting old and losing patience with younger people who flock Yaoi.
I fucking hate, despise people who hang around adult rape plots, stories that they know very well was non con and nag and post shaming posts.
To all of you who entered a door that had big read leaders of rape plot and still choose to enter and have this huge urge to shame shippers :
A BIG FAT FUCK YOU!
Grow the fuck up! If you can't understand that fictional character and stories can AND SHOULD be a free zone from censorship, including this fake hypocritical morality police that hangs around here from chapter one whining about rape plot THAT THEY CHOOSE to read, the problem is you.
SHOUT IT LOUDER FOR THE ILLICIT DUMB FUCKS IN THE BACK WITH COTTON IN THEIR TNY EARS
You said what I've been wanting to say for a long time. I just never did because, like you said, people wont grow up and will attack you for it. Please dont include me in the young people lol (I'm 17)
They are going to grow even bitter because from here the story will start building on the relationship.
I can't wrap my mind why people pick stories that so clearly upsets them and make their only pleasure to trash the shippers.
U have said it all to well , the bl community can be extremely annoying about this ... like don't sign ur self up for a book u know is not suited to u and then complain u just look stupid
Seungho is rightly hated and chances are great that he will ended up chopping someone's else head until the end but...
Let me just say however that besides Nakyum, there are at least two souls who hold some kind of emotional filter on Seungho who allows them to 'cross' a line and live another day? Jihwa by the way crossed and recrossed and it's even funny how many times Seungho promised a revenge that he never took it.
Then we have this astounding dare from Mr Kim dragging Seungho.
Even more that Seungho was already charged with bloodlust coming from Jihwa's place, Mr Kim couldn't have chosen a more dangerous time to break ranks.
Still, Mr Kim lives. How? It's quite possible he will get a beating. Or maybe not. Either way, I think another revelation of this chapter is that Mr Kim is himself someone who has a certain distinction in Seungho's emotional circle .
Another surprising action from Seungho. In previous times, he would have stormed that room and dragged Noona out. He obviously overheard her telling Nakyum to run away with her. Seungho;s whole life now is about locking Nakyum in his house. His biggest fear is Nakyum running away. His suspicion against Noona turned out to be true: she intends to take Nakyum away. And what does he do?? He turns around and walks away.
How is that not an exciting chapter not only about Nakyum but also about everything that it reveals about Seungho?
How about Nakyum still cherishing his damn teacher and patiently waiting for his come back? That for sure was the less exciting part of the chapter. I just wanted to shot myself at that part. When will NK finally realize how selfish his teacher is? It seems we're still far from it... After seeing the role In-Hun played in Nakyum tormented childhood at the brothel, I am afraid it will be even more complicated for SH to win NK's affection over In-Hun.
I may be wrong but I think Nakyum was trying there was to not tell Noona the real reason why he didn't want to leave.
If you see, Noona is demanding an explanation on why Nakyum doesn't want to leave... Nakyum tries to use the In Hun motive. Even because that was the original reason why he stayed, he probably felt it was not lying. Deep down Nakyum knows this is not the reason anymore, so much so that Noona herself doesn't believe this could be it for all the reasons she talks back....
Only then Nakyum explains the real motive, it's Seungho. Nakyum was embarrassed and confused and he didn't want to tell this to Noona and I think putting on the teacher was his way out (didn't work with Noona though).
The thing that holds me is all the official art where Seungho and Nakyum are happily together because I just can't believe the author would inflate, promote, capitalize from the ship so much if the intention was to make them miserable.
The scene in the doctor's office where Seungho confessed that Nakyum has made a wreck out of him and then he is sleeping and Nakyum is touching his face is what leaves me bitter ... if it wasn't for that useless dumbass hobo assassin kidnapping Nakyum, what kind of morning talk we would have?
Here is hoping that the author feeds us a little bit because all these posters with loving Seungho and smiling Nakyum are like a carrot on a stick and it's a bit cruel if all this is only to keep the shippers hooked, lol.
I think we're gonna get a long and miserable slow burn story.
Since we live in modern times, this detail may not be noticeable but to me what is more incredible in this chapter is how many rules Seungho has broken with this.
Nakyum is a lowborn. Jihwa is a noble. His father is an elder and a noble.
Seungho just stormed into another noble's house with a sword making threats to him. Not only that but he didn't backed down when the elder of the house, someone that he probably would defer because of seniority, and he could have said anything to make a threat but he openly declared for anyone, the servants and the father, what was the reason he was there. He really said with all the words that Jihwa, a noble, would be killed if he harmed Nakym, a lowborn.
I'm not a historical or Korean etiquette expert but it looks to me that this is like the kind of scandal and behavior that a society like that would not tolerate. A few chapters back Seungho wouldn't admit to Min or himself that he cared for the lowborn. Now he is openly daring to kill another noble for the boy.
I imagine if this is not the kind of plot that would bring Yoon Father to town.
Yeah, SH broke a lot of rules(⊙…⊙ ) i'm sure his dad will come cause he don't want to hear his son rumor. Yay i want ss3(⌒▽⌒)
The author said multiple times she doesn't care for historical accuracy, don't give her too much credit
lmao he dressed in all black for Jihwa's funeral
If Jihwa lost hair every time Seungho warned him not to cross an imaginary line just for Jihwa do something even bolder each time, Jihwa would be bald by now.
Imagine if it had been Min who had crossed all those lines.
What I got from Jihwa and Seungho so far is that when it comes to Jihwa, Seungho barks and threatens retaliation a lot but can't really make himself to finish up his childhood friend, even because Nakyum. The Lord Song thing plus this thing with Nakyum would have been death to anyone else.
I think Seungho knows very well his temper and that he can do something he will regret. If Seungho really wanted to kill Jihwa, he would have went after him until he got him. Instead, what he is doing here? He is sure bloodlust for revenge but instead of luring Jihwa to make the kill, he is making sure to keep Jihwa away from him and his rage because this time his anger is worse.
I'm curious to understand from where some readers get the idea or hint that this story will end up as tragedy or anything even similar to a Killing Stalking?
The only think Killing Stalking and POTN have in common is that they became too popular and hyped because of the art and attracted readers who don't necessarily enjoyed the story or the genre but hang around because everyone else was talking about or reading it.
Killing Stalking was psychological horror, gory and the MCs became more unhinged and damaged as the story progressed, not the other way around. The author hardly promoted any happy ending in her official art. The extra art usually depicted the dark dynamic.
POTN is no psychological horror, not gory. Also, among the non con group of fiction that we all know it belongs to, it's not even one of the darkest ones in here (Although sometimes there is the impression that for some readers this is their first non con trope where MCs end together).
Besides that, the more the story progresses the clearer it becomes the trope is following the traditional path of a relationship for the MCs becoming stronger, not weaker. A redemption for Seungho along with Nakyum falling in love with him. Better deal with it.
Biggest hints that this is not ending in tragedy: What the author says and what the author promotes as part of strategy of keeping readers following the story.
Maybe this is not known to readers who don't follow the author's but she already said in a Q&A that Nakyum and Seungho would be happy (their own way) Unless one talks in philosophical terms where tragedy means happiness, I don't think she meant any of them will have a horrible or even sad ending.
As for how they will be happy, for anyone following the official art, the depiction of the shipping and the couple has become closer, happier, not the other way around. If before there was more of a lust and domination, now they are depicted in tender moments, smiling, enjoying each other beyond the sex. The author is the biggest shipper of the couple and the official art that is being released is like a parallel story of its own. A story where the author is trying to keep the faith and teasing the readers that if they stick around for the tough part, they will be rewarded with that couple they see in the official arts.
EXACTLY!
I think it's because of tiktok lol
You spitting straight facts here. A lot of people only read PON or KS because it somewhat got popular on tiktok and they are just here because of the trend and hype of Yaoi and BL. They seem to not understand the genre and plot that comes with it. They immediately jump the author when they see something that doesn't suit their taste or read something that is too much for their liking. Inexperienced readers can be a pain in the ass sometimes because they assume too much and rant when they feel like it.
Exactly..also i hate readers who attack the author their so dumb just because the story didnt get what they wanted to be so immature
SO TRUE LOL
they should've just made a manga themselves ffs all they do is complaining #－.－)
Yahhh i want to say grow up kidsssss lol
*clapping* (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
honestly lol, they don't even have a similarity yet people still compares them. Like bruh can you not see the genre? if it says psychological then expect the story to be dark, if it doesn't, it's not. And It's getting hella annoying when people on tikt0k asks you "why do you like this manhwa it's literally just rape" while they be shipping Sangwoo and Yoonbum. Mkay shawty
Cause Killing stalking is Popular and almost everyone ship them so others will do it as well i guess