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He is, author confirmed it according to other comments. But I hope they were lying. However according to that bitch reaction. He is indeed cheating

Mhhhhh I hope its not reall but I just think this all feels weird somehow

Also the author already trashed his personality (my opinion) cause even if he's a guy. If ML has respect for the MC's sister who he claims he loves(want) he wouldn't cheat. I understand him fucking some women if they haven't met nor declare he likes the sister yet. Not to mention. It's his knights wife of all people. A shitty Lord if I must say. We know he's gonna regret it and shit, either way. I'm dropping. Not interested to see the obvious.

I mean the sister obviously hates him and does not wanna marry him lol... and I am still not convinced about the cheating since other manwhas make it more cheaty while it actually not being true....but we will see I guess ┗( T﹏T )┛

I just hope it really ain't true since it feels so random-...

did you forget heeseung also sa’d potato?

Thank god someone remembers this bc ppl are giving that man such a free pass just because he's not JK

Right so, I literally read everything again and don’t remember him being sa’d by the loan sharks, I just see them treating him like shit, which I hope we might see them 6 feet under, but idk why make Dan’s story worse, idk if that makes sense

Seriously, what JK did was horrible either way, no matter if he was a virgin and was assaulted earlier, like...what justification is it?! Gosh, writing is soo poor... and that shit 'but Dan admitted that he was okay with that', dude, seriously, author crossed a line several times, I hope that it's all an act from Dan end to deal with JK till the match and run away from that asshole!! JK and Heeseung both are damn rapists and should rot in hell!! I'm so tired of all these SA centered porn series without even proper sense and storytelling

Author is trying so hard to make JK 'looks better' that it's disgusting at this point! She could have thought ahead when writing the rape scenes at the beginning of the series, now what's done is done! Whole 'justification' of all these terrible SA acts is seriously pathetic, making it like Dan consented to that?! Wtf?! And like was mentioned above, it would be nice to see Dan running away from JK after the match, man, protect yourself from that prick!

atp i think most readers are just following the top comments, the only time i ever got to deep dive into the nuances the series has was on reddit, trying to discuss on mangago is like jumping into a pool of piranha

Yes I did lol if I remembered I wouldt have included him ┗( T﹏T )┛just cross that part I guess

Yes sadly smth can't be smut without SA or Rape

And I hate that overloaded SA in BL, seriously, there is so many fetishing rape women in authors?! When people understand that consent is sexy, and SA is not an only option for smut

The worst part isn't even the fetishism but the downplay or even glorifying it...that's the part that disgusts me its like "yeah he is hot so it can't be rape"

Omg, this! Sexualizing and normalizing rape, and people are totally okay with that because 'he's so hot' or 'bottom came', i'm sick of it, people are seriously so brainwashed at this point, all they care about is more toxic sex scenes to fap to, they don't care about the context, where for me it's even hard to look at! Have no idea how all these authors can come up and even draw such drastic dragged SA scenes, gosh!
And JK did exactly the same things which that disgusting doctor wanted to do, but when JK is doing that it's okay?! Wtf?! And always that pathetic traumatic past 'justification', what does it matter?! Tough past is not an excuse, when you act like an asshole, you are an asshole, you're taking responsibility for your actions! And nothing can change the fact that JK SAed Dan multiple times, no matter how much Mingwa is trying now to make it like 'nothing happened'

Yeah especially since the background story made him look even more like a prick since he should know how hard Dan struggled and that his life was difficult...he should have came to the conclusion on his own that Dan only agreed since he needed the money...tbh the background story was so random and only made things worse (︶︿︶)＝凸

minghwa isnt trying to make it like “nothing happened” though, her making jaekyung guilty and bringing back kim dans past sa’er is reminding everyone that kim dan has been a victim all along, had this been realistic kim dan wouldnt be getting romantically involved with jaekyung and the doctor probably would still be working at the hospital, kim dan wouldve been cast aside like a used shoe because hes poor and a victim, powerful figures like jjk and the doctor would actually be able to hide everything with money and name, but its fiction and kim dan is the main character so those outcomes didnt happen

but if we just think with a plastic brain, kim dan always had a seed of interest for jaekyung growing ever since they first met up until they had their fight, even though he no longer feels that burning crush in his heart, jaekyung will always be allowed one extra chance, either from the sense of responsibility to repay jaekyung or from having liked him before idk, i just know kim dan has more or less accepted jaekyungs sa because he loved jaekyung

the story makes full use of the fictional rules in the bl world so imo its not a good read for people like you who prefer more realistic stories with better representation, this story rlly needs readers who read it for the love of the game cuz its just so unrealistic

As you said the story doesn't make sense...also the "guilt" is a bit late ain't it? And the background story doesn't make it better it just makes it seem like they want to make jjk look better since he is pretty, famous and paid Dan for raping him while the doctor didt and didn't even feel guilty

She's doing that by giving us Dan saying in the previous chapter that he was okay with everything that has happen to him, she's shallowing the topic of SA with a disgusting 'there was a contract, Dan agreed to that so no SA', well, nope! People are going around stating shits about that contract at the same level as 'you cannot rape the prostitute'! Dude, that whole contract was wrong to begin with, and because of JK he fell into depression, alcoholism and wanted to kill himself! Seriously?! And the whole part where she made taht JK only understood that he did something wrong because Dan was a virgin?! Because he was blackmailed earlier?! Wth?! It was wrong no matter who it happened to! This shit is even worse than BJ Alex!

But unfortunately people buy anything authors do, just to get more hot characters and sex scenes, everything can be used as an excuse for them, no wonder there is more and more degenerates in the society since they cognitive abilities are so distorted because of that whole shit! Because it's not even what shit is in the story, but how it's perceived by readers, and that's damn disturbing!

And if you mean by 'love the game' readers who are into senseless plot, constant SA smut, no addressing the topics just to get more sex and of course sexy characters, then yep, I'm also out, such readers and the fact that such shitty stories are selling are the main reason why we are flooded with such crap! Fiction or not, if it affects peoples ability to comprehense basic topics, something is wrong, but as I can see base on you response, you won't get it!
No reception!

the guilt is late cuz jjks a dick, thats why everyone was pissed since day one till now, he knew what he was doing was wrong but only started feeling guilty when he realized he liked kim dan, if he didnt like kim dan ik he would just throw him away and get another guy to sate his jinx, the background story is badly planned but still its better then not knowing and just assuming right? both grew up poor and had hardships but one grew up with a loving grandmother and the other grew up using his fists to survive, i dont get why you think minghwa is trying to make jjk look better when hes one of the most hated characters right now we’re literally discussing why hes so bad and poorly fleshed out

comparing two rapists is useless, theyre both rapists and are both bad people, even if one repents they were still a rapist
and jaekyung is kim dans end game partner so of course he has to feel guilt and try to make amends with kim dan thats just how the story is gonna work
everyone knows jjk is a bad character but to finish the story they have to put up with him bro what can we do

ignoring the first two paragraphs because youre just basically rephrasing why people hate a bad character like jaekyung, fyi i dont hail jaekyung as a saint character i already said multiple times hes a bad character and that his lore is poorly fleshed out, same goes for the entire series theres not a single well written part at all


i meant love of the game as in people who read anything and everything because its BL, including those who are into slop or people who genuinely just want to have an honest full review of the series when its complete despite hating the story. Theres a lot of people who still finish a movie even though halfway in they can already tell its a horrible film. The reason why we’re flooded with crap is because the companies that agree to let authors post their bad ideas see the popular point that keeps readers coming back: WELL DRAWN SEX. a majority of the readers are adult women who like to see two men go at it so ofc the market will produce works that contain good gay smut, we’re lucky the market is so big that it has the funds and resources to produce no sex pure romance and sweet love BL’s though

for the “fiction or not” part, the people who actually get swayed by fiction so much that their moral compass goes askew are mostly teens and younger readers girl, theyre not even supposed to be reading such content in the first place but its just a matter of time before they grow up and come back to reread these old series and then understand why its so problematic, same as how most grew up watching inappropriate animes and loved them as children but grew up to find out its the most disgusting show ever

like relax jinx is alr well known as a bad series

You all have a point here. And yes, I agree on that, Jinx is just a really bad written story with no well throughout characters, like many other BL series, everything here is just a typical toxic BL trop! And of course many people can see that, but there are also those who blame Dan, just to 'clean' JK's name... and it's like that with many black/red flags 'hot characters', where readers wants to justify their actions and make them a 'good guy', because they are so 'hot'.
Btw, Mingwa seriously could come up with anything at the last moment at least, to make it from Dan's end just an act, as he wants to survive till that final match and then disappear from JK, and then we'll get some 'chasing' from JK, because we all know he's the end game... hard to say, this is just so badly written that mostly impossible to do anything sensible with it at this point...
Don't get me wrong, I like toxic stories, but well written, with a good redemption part, chasing etc, and I can even like black/red flag character because of a good character development and so on, but it's not erasing whole shit he did.

The problem with this industry is not only sex focused authors, but as you mentioned - platforms, they also have strict guidelines when it comes to the content of series, I remember reading such platforms authors' interviews and comments, they need to stick to many rules regarding the content, well... sex sells, and as long as people buy such content, platforms will use that as an easy money, that's how it works. And in such webtoons, where everything is based on an easy 'scroll through', visuality is the most important for many recipients, so good art and sex, and this is how it goes unfortunately. And here SA, cheating, whoring around etc give both factors at ones, angst and sex scene, easy doing for authors, where majority of readers don't care if this is consistent or not, as they're not for storytelling. And I've noticed that mostly Asian series/platforms have this trend for angst and SA (even pushed late in a game without any context), international ones have it more balanced to be honest, but it's true that Asia has the 'thing' towards toxicity in general (I never forget Junko Furuta case and the fact that in Asia it was used as a porn topic - disgusting)

And yes, thankfully there are also good stories, focused on storytelling, good characters profile and also good consent smut, a whole package!
As a BL reader for over 20 years, I see the trend very clearly, and I hope that all these comments cheering such toxic behaviors and series are just minors and not grown up people with fucked up minds (I saw even many for sick series like No reason or Non zero sum - I have no words), it's sad that at the end of the day, those badly written toxic series are the most popular only because of art and hot characters... because there are those good, well written series, not as many as those toxic ones, and unfortunately mostly underrated...

Lmaooo ur weak stand up no one should have a relationship that has a base of lying or manipulation like it doesn’t matter what it is now it started with impure intentions just bc he’s nice doesn’t erase or rewrite his wrongs and she deserves and has the right to respect herself set boundaries and not stand for anything that hurts her like your thought process is shallow just bc I was treated bad in the past I should accept whatever is thrown my way now like that’s pitiful and pathetic

Shut the fuck up

Implying his changed behavior shouldn't impact any part of this completely is rather short sided...why would anyone change then if they are only ever going to be judged for mistakes they made in the past? I think it isn't fair to either of them to ignore how he has changed and their situation has changed. What her ex did is on an ENTIRELY different level...

My weak stand? Bro, first chill out it's just an opinion on an illegal website, and he made changes for her sake? So that's not creditable? And my whole point was that human relationships of any kind have ups and downs and are hard and sometimes gives you headaches that's how it is and she throws the towel imidiently cause it gets to hard...because of smth she herself belives wasn't a lie like she knows but cause it gets to hard she throws and that's kinda stupid- why try having a relationship if you don't wanna work it out??? Also she made a lot of progress and I thought the author wouldt use this stupid standard drama trope since they have been writing their story pretty solid so it's sad to see how this turned out. And if youuuuuuu so freaking want bad to hear smth bad about the ML I am also annoyed he just freaking left and didt go after her etc. I just didt want to write a goddammn paragraph since it seemed we all were on the same page anyways from reading other comments and comments on previous posts

Like God forbid a girl wants a relationship based off of truth and integrity especially after being in a relationship with a man who was disingenuous like she’s already been betrayed before and nobody which way you slice and dice it. This is another betrayal. Also mind you he knows how shitty her life was bc of that man like what he did to her reputation what he did to her physically mentally emotionally like he literally had to peel her out of her shell he knew the rumors and that was part of the bet and that all just seems disingenuous to be like that doesn’t matter bc he’s nice he knew everything. He knew her hurt and pain yet still approached her with impure intentions and never corrected them nor did he even do a good job at explaining himself so let that man grovel and I think you’re also forgetting that they aren’t in a real relationship they have voiced that they have feelings for each other, but they aren’t together and this is her standing up and protecting herself she’s not folding bc of her feelings or him being a okay person it’s obvious that she recognizes his effort but it’s that it wasn’t sincere and she doesn’t have to deal with that especially when she’s doing what he taught her to do he told her don’t let people mess with you have self-respect stand up for yourself and she set a boundary and mind you he knew that this was wrong and he should talk to her about it because he literally had a stress dream and he still didn’t do anything actions have consequences and he was complicit the whole time now does doing one bad thing make you a bad person that depends but in this case no but this was a really morally bankrupt thing to do to somebody who’s already has such a shattered sense of self and reality and has been hurt and the relationships have ups and downs but you shouldn’t have to suffer and be hurt to be loved and mind you they aren’t together and she’s already been through a humiliating demoralizing dehumanizing traumatic experience. Why would she settle for another one when it’s a contract relationship? Also, I like him as a character. He’s a good person most of the time. But that’s like bare minimum to treat somebody well or to help somebody out when they’re struggling all this is very bare minimum when you care about somebody

Like no one wants to be the butt of the joke they aren’t laughing with her but at her and just be he doesn’t think it was serious doesn’t mean the other person involved don’t it’s like someone knows ur insecurities and then uses it but it like I didn’t mean it in that way you can know that they weren’t trying to hurt you and were just kidding but that doesn’t make it hurt any less understanding doesn’t mean accepting and forgiving doesn’t mean forgetting he’s being held accountable by the standards he taught her

Literally just imagine getting out of an abusive relationship and then you meet a nice guy and fall in love and you find out he originally approached you because of a bet. Forget your omniscient reader's viewpoint and actually put yourself in her shoes

The point is that the response to this is VARIED. People can have all kinds of reactions to this, and not all of it would be to drop the guy immediately. That is all anyone is really saying. Perspective is a broad thing and this isn't a one size fits all situation. Especially again because everyone wants to pretend he has zero say in this and his opinion doesn't matter at all. Again, he is a nice guy who treated her well and is a college kid who made a DUMB joke with his friends. God forbid.

Being held accountable would mean TALKING to him properly, not running away without a word of his own. Accountability would be allowing him the chance to change or make up for it. After a bunch of time and space for her to process? Sure, girl take all the time she needs. But ignoring him because of one mistake in the beginning isn't the big moment of self defense you think it is.

That may be what YOU'RE saying, although it didn't come across that way, but a lot of people aren't giving her any grace for a non-perfect response the way they are doing for him. She's being mean and unfair by not hearing out properly (she listened to him explain himself and found it insufficient), but his lacking response is understandable because he's just a swet college boy who makes mistakes :(
Like she isn't a college girl? He's literally older than her, why is she required to be more mature than him and hear him out more or it's bad writing?
That's what's getting me. The bar to not be seen as annoying is way lower for him than it is for her when you look at the readers' reactions.

Do you see that you’re giving him so much grace but none to her like OK he’s young, but he’s still older than her and he’s a grown man you aren’t allowing her to have any room for imperfection while saying he’s just a boy like your opinion is rooted in misogyny. None of this is her fault but you’re putting the blame on her. Mind you in the conversation he did not explain himself. He doesn’t even really try to go after her. Do anything he’s just like well. Her feelings are hurt. Send a text leave a voicemail leave letters you could do so much but he’s just like oh whoa is means I’m so busy like he fucked up she doesn’t owe him anything and no he doesn’t get a say if she doesn’t want to be with him like that’s her right like he fucked up womp womp people make mistakes but that doesn’t mean bc it wasn’t on purpose doesn’t make it hurt any less or hide the intent behind it like she has every right to not wanna do that to protect yourself to stand up for herself to implement what he taught her. She’s setting boundaries having self-respect and love you just want them to be together because he’s nice. Nice isn’t everything. Your making excuses to validate his behavior when he himself knows he was wrong and he fucked up and deserves it he fumbled it on him

Can you see how much you contradict yourself? You’re like oh it’s perspective all of these things and then you’re like oh but I want it to be this way. You wanted to fit in this nice clean box and that’s not how it works. Especially with feelings and emotions involved she has the right to feel betrayed and manipulated. She has the right to not want to be involved in a situation that hurt her. If something does not serve you you have every single right to remove yourself. And accountability isn’t talking. Why would accountability equal explanation accountability is I understand my actions have consequences and I have to take responsibility for that accountability is saying yeah hey I know I fucked up and you have every right to feel the way you do not to force a conversation because your feelings are hurt and she has every right to take time in space. Her feelings were the ones who were hurt. His feelings got hurt because of his own actions. This is his repercussion. This is his ramifications. It doesn’t matter if it’s one mistake it’s how it makes her feel. It’s how it could push her right back to where she was before and she doesn’t wanna do that. You are like so on his side because he’s a nice guy that you were trying to justify and validate and make it minuscule because you feel. But it’s not about him or you it’s about how she feels. She doesn’t have to allow anything. She doesn’t owe him anything. She owes her herself after putting herself through all of these things she owes it to herself to protect herself. And it really is a big thing to know that somebody approached you with impure or ill intent knowing everything that you’ve been through and it’s basically playing you until they seen. Oh this is a good person. Maybe I shouldn’t humiliate them dehumanize them and make them a joke. Maybe I shouldn’t play with their lives in emotions and manipulate them for my amusement and the entertainment of my friends. Oh person doesn’t deserve to be treated like that. But that’s all decisions he made on his own. And then imagine you’re like oh I think this person is so sincere so genuine so real so honest so upfront to figure out that his friends have been laughing at you the whole time because of something he did and even if he doesn’t feel that way anymore, this whole time behind your back his friends have been wagering on your love, life and emotions

Like I don’t see why you think he has the right to a conversation I don’t see why you think she’s unreasonable because she brought it up to him and he could not explain himself properly he’s not even really fighting for her and there is no way to justify or defend what he did I don’t see why he deserves so much grace but she doesn’t. I don’t see why he’s just a boy but she’s not just a girl. And she doesn’t know him anything she didn’t even have to bring up the conversation she could’ve just called told him she could’ve moved out, but she talked to him and the conversation didn’t go well and she doesn’t owe him anything. It was a contractual relationship. Yes they had feelings for each other but how do I still have feelings for somebody when I know that they were tricking me that they were deceiving me how come it’s oh he was such a good person, but she’s been a good person to him too. She’s been there for him. She’s tried to change and all well. Going through everything emotionally physically and living through that trauma. She’s still opened up her heart to him and it’s OK for her to wanna close it like I feel especially in this day and age we should be proud of a woman for breaking cycles and not living in her trauma and not accepting anything less than she deserves women don’t have to settle and not every right cancels out of wrong she doesn’t have to forgive him. She doesn’t have to accept him. She doesn’t have to do any of that. She told him I understand, but I choose to end this to protect myself and to preserve whatever feelings I had towards you before and it’s crazy that you want her to reward bare minimum treatment of somebody you care about weather, the relationship is romantic platonic, or familial you should be a good person. You shouldn’t do things like make somebody who’s already having a hard time a joke she deserves true apology she deserves growling, she deserves him to recognize and admit to his wrongs and yeah, he could deserve redemption, but she doesn’t have to give that to him and I hope you know that this trope is literally done before she’s all that one of the highest gross rom com of the 90s like look into the source material

First of all I think you are taking this a bit personal...just seeing the amount of your comments : ) and as I said I just think it is sad to see she isn't really confronting him even though she started confronting the problems in her life (what I think is a good thing) and she learned from her past miserable relationship...also these are not reall people...they are all made up by one person, the author. And I think it is sad to see that the author used a generic "misunderstanding" trope to "spice" up the story. I liked that the author went the unconventional route with those two and then they do this...that was all I am sorry you have misunderstood next time I should write a whole essay I guess ╮(￣▽￣)╭