ella's Topics (17)

Please remember that this is one of her earliest works so give her some grace too, if you read some of her latest work you can see the difference and similarities over the years. But I can understand your point of view, looking back when I first read this in 2020 compared to now.

Thanks for answering.

I actually thought it was drawn like that intentionally and people liked that style as its been tagged as "beautiful art". Its more abstract which is not a bad thing and it doesnt mean the art is bad or that its her inexperience. Im reflecting on my perspective and the emotions it elicited which made me dislike it.

My issue is with how the mc was drawn, he has this dumb pouty surprised expression on his face and its a look that makes him look stupid and too young, and it makes me really uncomfortable. That is what I hate. I find it hard to believe that the mc was drawn like this due to her lack of skills or inexperience.

I was kind of curious about other peoples perceptions, and analysis.

PS s he has drawn good looking ml/mc in her later work - and shallow me appreciates that.

I like the art, it's distinct. But art isn't objective

i did mention its my subjective view and its not the art - its more why they made the mc look so dumb with a constantly surprised look with that open pouty mouth - is it to make him look stupid?
Do you like that?

does it matter if i do? you're the one who posted the question and if you keep reading, he doesn't have that pouty look later. Also why are you gripping? just don't read it, i doubt you can write something like this, can you?

i posted the question out of interest and for a discussion. Frankly if you are offended then you dont have to answer. Personally i dont enjoy discussions with retards who cant tell the difference between gipping and discussion and take it personally.
Now kindly go fuck yourself and waste someone elses time.

I don’t understand why you people are so okay with romanticizing a painful and disgusting past when it comes to black and brown people. Let this story have been about a Japanese soldier in WW2 with a Korean man, or a Nazi German and a Jew in the Holocaust, and all hell would break loose. It is NOT your place to question why this was cancelled. It’s disgusting you even thinking this story should go on.

Set some slaves free………..just delete

Its in my place to question if i want to understand the issues and the logic. That is how people learn. If you are going to judge anybody for trying to educate themselves about issues involved and the logic for cancelation then you can FUCK OFF.

And as a south african i understand the past when it comes to black and brown people. I am more aware of the issues than you.

I still dont understand the issue here because dramas (films/tv series) have been made featuring romantic relationships in settings of slavery as well as holocaust. I didnt see any romanticising of slavery in ch1.

Why ? Do you want to be offended by that comment???

There are people who are supporting and cheering on the genocide of Palestinians and where children are being targeted, their is a genocide going on in Sudan and Congo. So much suffering but this is what gets your attention.

Let me humour you. He didnt free some slaves, He freed his slaves. Does that grammar work better for you? Do you feel less offended now?

That sentence, or changing my sentence does not have any effect on my view slavery, genocide, or any other abuses on human rights.

So fuck off and get some perspective on what you should get offended by.

Shut up you’re full of shit. “Why has this been cancelled. I just read ch1 and he set some slaves free. Is that controversial? Did something else happen to warrant a cancellation??
I mean we have so many tv shows about slavery and war so I really dont understand why this received critism”

NOWHERE DOES IT INDICATE YOU WANT TO LEARN. Your first 2 sentences reveal that much. You’re not slick. Revisit your own history and see if Apartheid is something that should be romanticized about.

Do u want me talking about suffering of Palestine, Congo, Sudan, Ukraine, Lebanon, Somalia and many others in the comments of pirate manga site? Believe me I will if some dumbfuck gonna draw yaoi of Israel/Palestine and im gonna talk about it on other platforms too
Your weird wording got my attention what that have to do with genocides??
Dumbing down the whole conversation to “he freed some/his slaves”is a problem, eslaved people being just a background, a setup for hot yaoi is a problem
Maybe it doesn’t change your view, but your comment is public, if u ofc ok with the fact that people will think that u r fine with enslaved people used as a prop in a story…then u do u
But I can fucking think u weird as hell for that

Because thats what you are good for - getting enraged about yaoi instead of events that matter.

Get some help - go see a shrink to get some fucking perspective instead of obsessing over a sentence. Your projecting your fucked up psyche.

But im glad i can enrage fuckups like you over nothing.

Stop projecting and making assumptions fuck brain.

Your the asshole for making assumptions. You interpreted it that way and got offended. That is your psyche and your perspective - and you jumping to conclusions because you think that way.

My view is being swayed that it should be cancelled.

BUT im still trying to understand why so many movies and dramas have similar themes and there is no outrage

Well and I do on the platforms and in the conversations where its actually has place

Are u okay? I literally said to u what was the problem with this work, why we r angry, and u stuck on the fact that i didnt like how talked about slaves…just talking about anything but the main point
Just move on then if u don’t care
And enrage is a big word

Huh? I read what u wrote, where did I made assumptions?

Well, i disagree, i see a lot of outrage about other media, and in a lot of discourse, the problem is outrage gets overridden by the bigger crowd of people who don’t see the problem (like I’ve seen more people who r protecting this work than critique it, especially after author chose of discontinuation) and its freaking sad
I think this one feels bigger because it is in such genre that didn’t had a similar situation happening(even though there were some racist works before it didn’t come to this, I think bcs jaxx is like a big and loved author)

thank you for responding.

I am not supporting this manhwa and respect authors decision but I cant really understand the controversial issue because i have seen so many dramas/movies with similar tropes. I was sincerely trying to understand. I kind of get it however and my consideration would be how the people who are affected feel. But im also sensitive of a lot of white people feeling outrage on behalf of black people - the performative activism.

I wish we would have as much outrage at unjust things actually happening in society - at our politicians, putting our efforts at making a noise at issues that lead to actual differences and address injustice currently happening.

No I fully agree with you on this, I wish people would care more about stuff that going on right now in real life and talk about it more

I’ve seen a lot of black americans and native americans(here and on social media) who were really hurt by this depiction and use of their history and ancestry
and I think there is a point to talk about it and do make authors understand that this not gonna be overlooked, and people just can’t make money on other people suffering
Im just trying to do both, talk about issues that prevail in real life, and don’t let things for fun and leisure to reach a point where it makes someone don’t feel safe

ps i also meant to apologise for attacking you.

all good, I understand

Ogus's Law was the first one to make me realize this. Most of the issues with manhua are the translations. But if it's translated right, the pretty drawings and loveable characters are just bonuses to an amazing plot. They require more substance to become popular enough to make it to us.