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I cant unsee it now.

HELPPP I knew they looked familiar

Fr I always stop and stare at their eyes for 1 min and then laugh myself to death

It shouldn’t be used as a joke, it’s straight up stupid and harmful. (It adds nothing to a story or “character quirk”.)

I should start to read this today then I read your comment, can you tell me more? Who is harassing who in this? Is it the main characters? I was actually going to question the gender bender tag on this too.

The Ml harrasses the mc but i wouldnt say its beacuse hes bi. he does it because hes upset that the mc lied

You mean ML is using mc's sexuality to harass him? Did MC perhaps lie that he is a woman or something? Deym, characters like this is sometimes a turn off for me. Is this only in early chapters?

No one is using anyone's sexuality to harass anyone. Basically, what happened is that both characters are trying to get revenge on one another. The wanting revenge is not related to their sexuality at all and could have played out with straight characters as well.

The bottom used to be a great gamer but then got defeated and humiliated by the top.

The bottom then stopped playing for a while but eventually returned to the game using a female character. His intention was to get back at the top by flirting with him as a girl but he was never able to flirt with him because he's way too honest and cursed at the top whenever they were playing together. He also refused the in-game gifts the top was sending him, but because of all that, the top ended up being interested in the bottom after all.

The top kept sending him gifts, and at some point, he sent him a really expensive gift, which the bottom accepted with the idea that he could finally get his revenge on the top. But he ended up feeling guilty and gave the money he made out of the in-game item back to the top and deactivated his game account.

The top didn't take the ghosting very well and went psycho and that's where the harassing starts. He searches the location of his house and starts freeloading there without showing any intention to leave. There are a few forced kisses against the bottom's will, but they don't go any further than that

Ohhh (⊙…⊙ ) thanks for the explanation. Now I'm more interested. Gonna read this now!
Btw, just for curiosity, is there a third wheel?

You mean like a love triangle? At the moment there isn't but the story doesn't look like it's going to finish anytime soon so it's still possible ╮(￣▽￣)╭

“There are a few forced kisses…but they don’t go any further than that.” Wrong, completely. When MC and ML were laying in bed, ML pulls MC into a cuddle (MC detest it, thinking “this is so gay!” And yells at him to “get the hell off…” him) then he puts his hands under his clothes and gropes him. That was literally chapter 18-19, my exact reasoning as to why I even made my comment to begin with because…that’s sexual harassment? Plain and simple.

And even him cuddling MC is? Sexual harassment? MC has stated multiple times that he doesn’t like or want the unwanted contact that the ML places upon him. Forcibly kissing him, groping him, holding his hands (UNWANTED) is sexual harassment. And MC throughout the whole series (up to them meeting) has said that him doing this to him could be because ML is GAY?! ML says his actions are fine (when they first meet) because he could be “swing both ways”???? THAT’S LITERALLY RIGHT AFTER HE FIRST FORCEFULLY KISSES MC??

Ah, my bad. I must have forgotten that part, but that still doesn't mean that his bisexuality is used as an exuse for his behavior.

This sexual harassment still happens in HET smut stories, it happens in yuri stories too, it literally happens in every smut genre no matter the sexuality.

The excuse for his behavior in this story is that he wants to take revenge on some guy who played with him and tossed him away. His bad tendency of obsessing over someone have nothing to do with his sexuality and is just his shitty personality.

Its true that many stories just have sexual harassment just to spice things up but this story is not like that. Considering the other behavior he has shown it fits with his personality. He's the type to like someone just because he's the only one that person is treating badly. He is the type to shower his crush with presents and force them to keep up with his pace. He's the type to refuse no for an answer.

So its not because of his sexuality it's because of his personality that has been perfectly displayed and build up over the chapters.

Yes, I understand that the main lead is explicitly “tormenting” (for lack of better wording) Yeseong because he’s seeking out some sort of revenge. Be it Yeseong berating him, in the game, “scamming” him (or breaking his fantasy he had towards “sesam”) because Yeseong turned out to be a Netkama, then running off and ghosting him, etc. I get that his actions—better yet, his motives—aren’t related to their sexuality, and purely his personality.

However, you can’t just sit here and ignore how the characters directly bring up sexuality when it comes to their interactions with each-other. That’s what makes it completely different, when comparing the harassment to “HET smut stories” and my whole general complaint.

Maybe the wording I /should’ve/ used was manipulation when talking about ML. He deliberately uses “I swing both ways” (multiple times, may I add) as manipulation to “subside” Yeseong’s feelings. That, in it’s self, is using sexuality as an excuse of harassment. Matter of fact, he ONLY says (said) that whenever he is harassing Yeseong! Hell, the first time he questions his sexuality (vocally) is when he sexually harassed Yeseong by kissing him without consent.

They both believe(d) that they aren’t attracted to men (ML in chapter 15. Saying “Noona…I /think/ I might swing both ways.” And Yeseong explicitly giving hints through out the reading,) but yet Yeseong is always, /always/, questioning ML being gay. And that’s usually during being sexually harassed by ML, before he’s harassed, or even after.

My whole original comment was about my distaste towards that very thing whenever it appears in media, a character sexually harassing (or being sexually harassed by) another same-sex character and it being tossed up (or joked about) as them “being (possibly) gay.” It’s very common to see it in comics and it’s just saddening. This comic is no exception to it, and that’s all that I was pointing out.

I dont know if youre up to date witht he chaoters but i think when it changes to the semes pov i think it kind of changes the meaning behind what the ml is saying. though i do agree with you

Yes, I’ve read up to that point (Chapter. 49-50) :)! While it does change the meaning of what he said, I still think what I said doesn’t. ML is completely manipulating Yeseong with sexuality—I won’t say “with /his/ sexuality” because he genuinely hasn’t said anything related to being bisexual, unless bringing it up to manipulate Yeseong—just to reenact his revenge….And that’s gross :D! He says that to “lower down” Yeseong’s guard so that once he actually falls for ML he can break his heart like “Yeseong did to him.”
Quote, “He was a lonely person, after all. So if I kept saying things like, ‘I don’t /mind/ that you’re a /guy/,’ ‘I like you,’…He’d fall for me in no time.” (Chapter 50) His revenge is by doing “the exact same tactic (same chapter, 50) Yeseong did to him. Which is, fucking hilarious because Yeseong didn’t employ (sexually) harassing and blackmailing as his Netmaka plan So what the hell is he even yappin’ about.

And, off topic perhaps, I find that whole motive to be utterly dumb (plot wise) LOL. Like, I would be more understanding with his plan if Yeseong was actually withholding vital stuff he gave him (like actually extorting thousand of dollars from him, etc.) But Yeseong…quite literally felt guilty about what he was doing. Even more so after he asked how ML would feel if “Someone he thought was a girl, turned out to actually be a guy.” After Yeseong heard his response, “…I’m not a sick freak that pulls that Netkama crap.” He literally tried giving back the things ML gave to him (besides the staff, although he gave him the money he received from trading it so that ML can try buying it back.)

And yes, I understand in the ML point-of-view he perceived Yeseong’s actions differently and the whole situation is a toss up as miscommunication. My feelings towards this is completely because I can think of 100 different ways the plot can play out so it isn’t this cheap alternative “ML (sexually) harasses MC so that MC /MAYBE/ falls for ML and gets his revenge by then breaking his sorry little heart, just like how MC “did” to him. And they /TOTALLY/ don’t develop actually feelings for one another.” I find this to be rinse and repeat, a “nothing new” burger, so it’s just disappointing.

“DO YOU KNOW HOW…HOW GUT-WRENCHING THE WHOLE THING WAS FOR *ME*? YOUR LIFE ISN’T A CIGARETTE BUD, YOU FOOL!”

And then throwback to when he belittled Mokhwa, called him a fish in his net (dehumanizing), a mad cow, brutally raping him and stabbed him with a glass shard. I mean, the list goes on forever. It’s just ridiculous at this point, like be fucking for real. This chapter (36-37) is him being soo pathetic, which yes, I know that’s the point. He’s spiraling because he’s realizing that losing Mokhwa would actually “ruin” him or whatever, but I just can’t take his feelings seriously. And why should I? He’s a walking fucking hypocrite.

“Get a clean bill of health and come back” and then flash forward to be blowing him up like a looney tunes character.

I pull out my hair

HE WAS NOT FUCKING WORKING AT THE FLOWER SHOP WHEN MOKHWA WAS IN THE HOSPITA——BEEEE FUCKING FOR REALALALL AHHHHHH

Oooh he no longer has his hair slicked back. Ooooh he’s wearing casual clothes now, ooooh he’s so baby girl, sooo sweet- SHUT THE FUCKKK UPPPP IM GOING TO VOMIT

“No one has ever waited for me…As loudly, and proudly, as this guy”

MOKHWA—MOKHWA THAT’S A FUCKING LIE????? WHAT ABOUT YOUR UNDERLINGS????? YOUR FUCKING NIECE???? MOKHWAAAA PLEASEEE DONT PISS ME OFFFF

i dont think he sees it the same

Ik! That’s what makes me sad/ upset because he doesn’t equivalent them (his niece and underlings) as having, for the lack of a better word, that dedication towards him than his shitty as rapist. Like, that’s just heartbreaking.

Like his*

ml is pretty persistent thats probably why

I KNOW, IT’S JUST SAD.

“With that, my involvement with this case will be over. Adios, flower shop, Adios, flower man.”

Look me dead in my eyes and tell me what the fuck this dude’s plan was. Cause what the FUCK is THIS?!

Chapter 24 actually makes me want to blow a casket. CAUSE HUH??! YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN’T BE SERIOUS-

trust me.. that man got a character development frfr

Yeah. All those sad musings of his, I fucking relish. Bwahaha.

I’m sorry, him bashing his hand in with the end of the gun and pissing and crying when he thought Mohwa died did NOTHING for me LMAOOO IN HONESTY, I JUST LAUGHED AT IT. And them going “I haven’t seen *him* in a *week*” that whole fucking panel just made me full on tweak. I couldn’t take it HAHAHA