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Call me woke but I thought of this too T-T I was scared to say something cause I know the fans don’t play about dada

I’m confused bwat work is fine to me ??? Why do you not like it

your criticism is completely valid. the way korean authors portray brown /darker skinned person as savages and uncivilised while the white person as civilised and delicate it does feed racial stereotypes which is infuriating. orentalism and colorism is so normalised in fandom spaces if you talk about it you'll either get ignored or fans of the work will try to silence you

Asians are poc too but I get what ur saying

bwat has a long history appropriating arab and south asian cultures with no regard for the cultural context for clothing ,religion, accessories etc coupled with racial stereotypes(taming the tiger) that i already mentioned above so i will touch upon their current work which is quite literally orientalism 101. they made their brown lead character by giving him blonde hair and blue eyes which is often done to distance the character from being brown for aesthetic appeal with a disappointing representation for a group of people they're not even part of and attributing european characteristics to him as if to adjust him to what will 'appeal more' THEY DIDN’T CARE ABOUT THE IDENTITY!!you see arabs and south asians have different cultures ,clothing etc they mashes it together because these cultures are typically being brown which is textbook racism that's why his attire is a bit of this mixed with a bit of that to make it visually beautiful nothing more or less.bwat also depicted 'harem' in it's orientalist root as something sexual but actual harem is residence housing not only for concubines who are expected to bear child but servants,wives,children and don't get me started on how they appropriated belly dancer clothing for harem. the depiction of the main goddess and religion is very similar to south asian religions like hinduism and other regional religions where goddess 'kali' has multiple hands and can be manifested as destructor but they reframed her simply as an exotic, bloodthirsty monster and mindless violence.besides that they also traced a real mosque for the palace .numerous other instances exist where authentic cultural representation is reduced to a fetishized and racist caricature. so pocs mainly from those cultures and regions have every right to upset with orientalism and exoticism being depicted in media cause it has been used as colonial tool to expand western imperialism in those regions.

umm i know nowhere i mentioned asians aren't poc like i am literally an asian i'm crine

Thank you for this honestly looking at the stories different now !! It’s crazy how we can miss so many racist stereotypes and the minimization of cultures simply for them to profit smh !!

It's also rooted in pedophelia.
Have you noticed how all their white female characters are frail and hyper feminine, meanwhile their brown female characters are beastialized and treated like background characters not worthy of love and spot light

late to this, and i so hard agree with you, i have so many problems with how BWAT portrays different cultures, but unfortunately for me, I'm a fucking hypocrite cuz i actually love "taming the tiger" and "blossoms of the white knight" so cancel me it's valid why u dislike some of BWAT's works, and im not defending them in any way. Kinda wished I didn't enjoy some of her works that has orientalism/racism problem:'))

You said “we poc” as if poc are just ppl with brown skin. It’s not that hard to use context clues.

She said WE POC yes she is Asian WE includes herself you’re just looking to fight bc if she herself is Asian and said we she is obviously including them as poc as well

honestly i thought their current work's weird ever since the whole child marriage thing like they always find a way to incorporate these weird problematic segments into their story but as yk their braindead fans will gobble up anything brainlessly while parroting 'it's fiction'. now coming to the glaring racial stereotypes of hyper-masculinisation of brown women where they are depicted overly muscular and aggressive by stripping them off conventional femininity as a justification of exploitation and hard labour, even if the creator manages to depict brown women as dainty or hyper feminine ,her daintiness is never viewed as innocent like the victorian white ideal instead, it is framed as exotic.so this isn't just about this one bl manhwa but media in general ,orientalism literally kills people.

You are right.
Whenever I criticize it, their cults come at my throat.

yes and we as in all pocs including myself who is brown i'm calling on all the pocs out there to call out such orientalist artwork instead of letting it be ignored, to prevent harmful stereotypes of south asian and arab cultures be rooted into audience's mind .all they need to do is apologise followed by a proper research the next time they're drawing brown characters.

Wtf is wrong with u ppl...the slave line is clearly a sarcastic remark and not him being submissive. U always want to find faults in everything while this story has barely even started. We all know that this won't be a slave/master story but here y'all are bashing it and calling it racist. The blonde dude even set the other workers free, not intending to keep them as slaves and one sarcastic line from the ml got the story and author bashed. Pls stop acting like justice warriors for every little thing bcuz this isn't the race slander y'all think it is. Have u never watched western movies? This story has a setting that happened irl but it doesn't mean it will be written as a mock to the ppl who suffered and were exploited back then.

It's like people want to rewrite history simply by being pissed at it...

Don’t piss me off you stupid bitch this is deep, rooted history. That’s still affects Black people till this day. Why the fuck would a Korean woman know anything about the antebellum south? It’s clear as day that you people are so fucking uneducated and didn’t pay attention in school. The premise of the story is absolutely Disgusting why would a woman who doesn’t know the first thing about slavery and it’s facts on the black diaspora to this day. Decide that it’s OK to write a dumb ass BL slob story about gay sex genuinely what is wrong with some of y’all

I’m honestly shocked by how fast people jumped to conclusions. Depicting a historical setting involving slavery is not the same as endorsing it. If we start treating every uncomfortable element of history as “forbidden,” then we can’t write historical fiction at all.And the argument that “a Korean woman shouldn’t write about the antebellum South” is not progressive, it’s gatekeeping. Since when are authors only allowed to write about their own ethnicity or their own country? By that, nobody should write fantasy, sci‑fi, historical fiction, or anything outside their personal experience.The line in question was clearly sarcastic, the blond character literally frees the workers, and the story has barely begun. Condemning the entire narrative, and the author, based on a single line taken out of context is unfair and intellectually lazy.If the story later mishandles the themes, then criticism will be valid. But attacking the premise before chapter one is even finished isn’t activism. It’s reactionary moral panic.

And she shouldn't even write about gay guys then. (〜￣△￣)〜

How is this even about slavery? U are acting crazy over exactly nothing bcuz nothing in this chapter said the author will use slavery as grounds for gay sex?! Also, how are u so dismissive of a relationship between two men that could've happened during that period? This isn't a historical documentary, it's a love story between two men that happened during the civil war. U're acting like she's going to show the white dude whipping and mocking black slaves and using them as sex slaves

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Logic out of the window for these ppl bcuz it was never about understanding a topic or being interested in educating or supporting a cause, it's about cursing others on the internet and name calling under the pretense that they are being severely affected, while us obviously racists can't understand the struggle. Not like almost all other countries on this earth had a painful past filled with colonization and erasure of identity

Once again, you are the dumbest person I’ve argued with all night In what world would a white man and a Native American being in a relationship in the antebellum himself I’m sorry it’s just not possible and there is no historical documentation of it but that’s It does have to deal with racism because if you opened your fucking eyes, you would see that in one of the final panels the main character freed the slaves asked if it was nothing then you have the ML swooping in on his horse, calming himself the master slave shut your fucking mouth you stupid whore

AH HAH I CAUGHT YOU YOU STUPID FUCKING RACIST AT THE VERY END. YOU JUST GLAZED OVER THE FACT THAT EVERY COUNTRY HAS ITS OWN PAINFUL PAST, BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT AMERICA’S PAINFUL PAST SPECIFICALLY THE ANTEBELLUM SOUTH SO THE FACT THAT YOU THINK DIFFERENT SUFFERINGS ARE COMPARABLE IS EXACTLY WHY I KEEP ARGUING WITH YOU SPECIFICALLY DON’T WORRY I’M GONNA GET YOUR ACCOUNT BANNED TRUST AND BELIEVE YOU STUPID UNDERCOVER RACIST

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