KING_SVKII's Topics (34)

Do we need the bl in the room with us? Dont think so LOL lets the strory flow it self

it was a joke.

LMAO

No? Uke was disowned by his family for being gay and saw how happy seme was when he was around kids. He didn't want him to lose the chance of having a family from being in a same sex relationship (which is literally what happened to uke himself) so he broke up with him because he wanted him to be happy. They got back together and seme told him that that's not gonna happen with him

I thought the comment above this was wrong but scrolling down proved me wrong. DID WE READ THE SAME MANGA?? he did NOTTTT jump into conclusions, he did NOTTTT. MC was scared of the thought of separation because they can't do what opposite sex couples are able to do, and this is honestly a valid response fter being disowned by your parents after coming out as gay. Mc did not mean to push him off the stairs, did you not see him try to grab ml??? He was stressed and overthinking, overthinking the limitations he'll give to ML if they eventually did get married(assuming that they're already engaged). Same sex couples handles marriage a lot differently than the opposite sex couples because of the society, that's what MC was afraid of, not for himself, but for ml!!!! He was not jumping into conclusions and such, it's the cause of society's prejudiced thoughts!!!

he was still... jumping to conclusions. no matter what his intentions were, he still pushed him away instead of just voicing his fears, when the WHOLE conflict would not have existed if he had just communicated... not to mention, he made completely ungrounded assumptions out of THIN AIR and ran with them to the point where he was hurting both him and his bf.. when there was no REAL problem in the first place.. he was never gonna get left for a woman, and they had already came out.

by "nonexistent issues" I meant issues he made up in his head by jumping to conclusions... that made NO sense. no matter what you say, my opinion wont change on this... and I enjoy arguing so try to challenge me if you want

I enjoy seeing other's perspectives too. I know uke could've just communicated but I think he got deep rooted issues. He got disowned by his parents. The people he trusted most. Imagine your family, the people you trusted most can turn their back on you in the blink of an eye, I think anyone would be traumatized by this. I know I do. He voiced his sexuality and got disowned. He had assumptions that his parents would accept him and he's wrong. Yes it could be communicated but he never had that epiphany. He thought his parents loved him the most and then they disowned him. So even if seme loved him the most, the fear didn't dissapear because it happened before.

So yeah, communication is key but when all previous communication with his former family failed uke, he can't help but hesitate.

Sorry about that, I wss supposed to dislike but my phone.fell and my finger touched like instead

Totally ain't no way wtv between these mfs is love it's just sexual attraction or smh anyway this can't be love
Bro leewon is brainwashed he couldn't even feel safe around his "lover" wth

a reason behind his behaviour shouldn't be treated like an excuse.

rape, is rape. it was not intentional, but it is still rape. don't be so ignorant as to say it isn't. he had sex with someone who did not consent to it, he raped him.

Bruh... Are u not hearing. He was drugged and it was a lot too. And since he never took drugs before the effect on him was super strong so he literally didn't had any control and beside after he got some of the effective off, he realized his mistake

Bruh... Are u not hearing. He was drugged and it was a lot too. And since he never took drugs before the effect on him was super strong so he literally didn't had any control and beside after he got some of the effective off, he realized his mistake.
Like I get what u trying to say but still.

It was rape, but Matthew is not a rapist. Do you understand how hard drugs work?

Cocaine affects the part of the brain which makes decisions, and degrades a persons rationality. Meth causes people to also become violent and wild. So even the most gentle soul with no bad intentions, someone who wouldn't even hurt a fly, could become a psychotic and violent person on meth.

Plenty other drugs affect the brain itself. Our morals, rationality, decisions, etc, are thrown out the window. It's null.

So, the situation was indeed rape. But Matthew is NOT a rapist, because he did not choose to take the drug, and he would have not done this in any other case where he was himself. They are both victims in this situation. Already he has to live with the fact that he did this while he was out of control, completely against his will, and in delirium.

neither of them could consent. Matthew was ON DRUGS. if someone is on drugs, and not in their right mind, they CANT consent.. if this is rape, then theyre both victims. you keep trying to condemn Matthew but THINK for a second. have you not been paying attention to the story at all?

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Greatly put!

do you know the millions of people who take drugs and don’t commit rape. drugs don’t throw out your morals they just show you don’t have any. you can’t take drugs rape people and say “sorry i was on drugs” because if that was excusable don’t u think millions of people would be getting raped. being a rapist defender is disgusting. mathew said it himself he thought it was a dream the fact he could do something like that even in a dream is disgusting. keep the same energy because if you got raped and ppl said you didn’t get raped because he was on drugs it’s would be a different story

are you slow? drugs can DEFINITELY make you do things you wouldn't naturally do.. they can DEFINITELY make someone commit a crime.. you should really do some research before you come talking shit to me. What Matthew did was messed up, and shouldn't have happened.. but that doesn't make him a rapist. Calling me a rapist defender because I have common sense is really crazy..

If someone is on drugs, they cannot consent to sex... if someone is drunk, they cannot consent to sex... how do you not know this? people commit crimes while inebriated ALL the time.. be forreal.

Did you forget the part where his mind was playing tricks on him? Where it showed Jin telling him to slow down / stop (something along those lines) but what Matthew saw was him telling him he wanted more?

Mathew didn’t take the drug willingly. He was in delirium due to the drug, and didn’t even willingly commit rape through his dream. In his dream he thought Jin was consenting. AND, Jin told Matthew in the recent chapter that it was not rape, that he willingly “spread his legs” for him. While I do still consider the consent itself to be an issue still, with Jin’s statement this would be classified as “dubious” now. He’s decided that he was okay with the violent sex.

Many of us here are completely anti-rape, and while I should not have to mention this, I myself am a CSA survivor. This situation is touchy and nuanced, that is for sure, but at the end of the day; Matthew is not a rapist.

Read my first comment on the thread and do some research. Drugs are not made equal. PLENTY wipe out your morals and rationality whilst you are on them. I mentioned in another thread how a woman tore her fucking eyes out while on Meth. Look that case up. Even alcoholics begin to lose their morality over time, though, all of these cases are where people willing took the drug in the first place. Matthew did not.

I’m tired of this misinformation bullshit.