I love our Ruby obviously, but I can't help but to feel bad for the OG Ruby or generally in these stories, I feel very bad for the OG characters before they get possessed by someone else (Usually that's why I prefer reincarnation instead of Isekaid).
Especially because OG Ruby seemed to be in love with Iske and vise versa as well. Im not saying that our Ruby took Iske from OG Ruby but in some way I always ask myself if things didn't turn the way they did (or in another life) OG Ruby was allowed to have a happy life with the man she loved instead of forever disappearing, giving everything she has to someone else. If you get what I mean( ´Α｀)
I totally agree! It leaves my heart aching when I know OG Ruby will always be dead, and has no opportunity for true redemption(?) And happiness. Especially now knowing she was so desperate to reverse all her mistakes and save her loved one's lives with her own I also feel for our FL because she most likely won't return to her own timeline to find growth and happiness in her OG body!! If only it had a modern arc at the end
Oh my god I always think this but especially here!! The amount of abuse and suffering OG Ruby also went through only to end in a horrible death at the hands of someone she could have loved ;-; Obviously I want our Ruby to live happily with Iske, but I wish OG Ruby could have lived a peaceful life and healed..
There’s a theory that Og Ruby and current Ruby are the same, it’s like Penelope’s situation from villains are destined to die if you know. In the novel og Ruby looks at our Ruby and says “You are me” and then our Ruby wakes up suddenly. Author left this to our imagination and interpretation. I believe these two are the soul.
I've always found it obvious that OG Ruby and our Ruby are the same soul. She really messed up in the 1st life so she had to suffer in her 2nd (losing her sister like Iz lost his & having a miserable life while never feeling as if she belonged) now her 3rd life is still a shitty start but the knowledge she retained is the true blessing here. So I've never once thought that there were 2 different Rubies. It just doesn't make sense. Now, if her second life was peachy, then that'd be different. Then I could see she's a new Ruby. Even if the creator told me they're two different people then I'd have to argue that she changed her mind towards the end because all Ruby's becomes meaningless if they are two different souls. (=・ω・=)
Yea exactly! Them being the same soul makes so much sense and it just shows that Izek loved the same soul in every timeline, and also explains Ruby having no holy power because the one from the first time ran out of it while stealing the holy grail and then made a wish to turn back time and to save her loved ones, they’re the same soul idc
I love my homegirl, Haneul!! Oh she' so lovable. I've always loved cute happy girls and I love that she's always standing her ground, is so honest and emotional very intelligent. It slows that a woman can be both cute, soft AND confident. So idk why ppl called her annoying all the time in the past.
For Mincheol... bro get your ass outta here.
Listen I will DEVOUR that chasing arc BROOOOOOOO
I admit that I was a little bit irritated in the beginning with how the story went, but as it progressed I understood why. Bc actually, this was such a good choice, because as the reader you can see that she really gave it her all that she did not just give up, so its on him now!! And now with the second male lead it feels much more intriguing.
For 2nd male lead; I really hated him, really hated his ass in the beginning. But the story proved me wrong. He isn't as bad. He's also just a Character with his own struggles and not just some plot device, very happy that 1st season was an introduction to him with crumbs and some side line B-plot and now everything falls into place. I'm looking forward to what will happen to him. The only thing that I hope that he will also get a happy ending and not stay alone
I also saw that some people don't like the reasoning for Mincheol's behavior and decisions, but I feel like especially when it comes to love and emotions - It's just not logical and reasonable sometimes.
Anxiety and fear can hinder us so much in our decision-making and yes, even though I hate his ass for him hurting my homegirl, I think the author did a great job to make me personally resonate with how much anxiety he has and why he did it.
Because This is a story with a lot of feelings and emotions and emotions are never rational
Looking forward to further progression of Character development
Meant to like aaaaaah!!! Heavy on the e mincheol part tho, sometimes people are stubborn in their ways when it comes to relationships… but at least delicious it’s giving us a chasing arc
i really like the way you explained what i was thinking better than i could have :') it always makes me happy to see someone else who thinks and tries to understand the characters more than just "ah this character isnt behaving how i want them to, fuck them!"
Obviously I love to story already, but at the start I was kinda scared that the author would pull an Operation: True love and peach Sorbe move (I've already made a comment about that A year ago) but this is made really well!!
You know, a story is fire when yoy don't like a specific trope and the story managed to make you think "OH THIS is an exception"
Like you can follow the plot easil, the pace is really good you connect with the charactes and get into their motives and never think: oh that's so random/Oh, it's so rushed/Oh this feels so forced. And everything is falling into place.
Personally, I don't think that this story is generic. It has a distinctive way of handling already known tropes in a very enjoyable way.
Some people say it's easy to predict, but I personally did not predict how the characters would act leading to the current storyplot.
Exactly! When people said, "Oh, it's the usual plot", I was like, "How?"
The characters are so distinct. Their dynamics are distinct. The humor and storytelling are so distinct. （￣へ￣）
It's a good 6/10 quick read if you bored but don't expect too much (emotional depth, logic, sometimes even Comedy).
Maybe it was because of all the hype and ppl claiming this to be peak, but I went into this having high expectations, especially because it was on my want-to-read list for quite a longe time + I already dropped it once but picked it up again after lots of hype; yet I got met with disappointment
Not necessarily because the Manwha was super bad or anything but because it was painfully mid (for my taste). I super duper like the cutesy adorable girl X dry stoic crazy bastard guy trope, but this one didn't hit at as hard. (Mainly because the storyline and characters was sometimes really off-putting)
I feel like, everytime the story build up some emotions like the scene where he discovered she lied to him, the conclusion was not a payoff at all. It's like the sneeze you anticipated so badly and it never comes, that's how unsatisfying the arc's felt to me. Everyone is saying, her communication gets better, but I don't see it (I stopped at chapter 65)
I mean, the way how QUICK the Manwha handles conflict by brushing off how he hurt her and her hurting him, by just saying "I love you" and everything is fine again? This not a payoff for me; I want the talk, I want the why's, I want the crys.
Instead it's rather fast paced, returning to comedy every time it's too serious.
A scene that stresses this issue out the most and also bugged me the most, was the Fake lover arc..urgh...
I mean he was literally about to kiss eotoile, another woman?? And had Ridely not stop them.. ? So you're telling me, he would have done it if she didn't had? Even if he just did it to provoke her, this would be so foul, who would even get the idea to do something like that in front of your girlfriend??. The whole arc upset me so much, especially because it showed us her feelings now and how insecure she still felt seeing them PLUS oh my god how hurt and upset she was seeing him doing this ..and YET there wasn't even a single talk about it afterwards OR apologizing for even trying to kiss another woman instead and it got finished with an "comedy"-haha-whatever seal.
Also the chapters where so poor on quality and translation
Manwha sounded really interesting and refreshing, but I feel like I'm reading a old English book with too many unnecessary pompous and highfalutin sentences and dialogues I want to relax and turn my brain off and with this it's too much to figure out
Disclaimer: this is a genuine question, I'm just frfr curious about others options
Like genuine question to everyone who dislikes the ML, the story line and still kept reading, why?
I also do this, don't get me wrong, but I am aware of it and I know it's my personal guilty pleasure since I usually am still intrigued by the story, but some people genuinely hate how this is going so why bother?
Second question, why do you dislike these kind of stories yet keep reading them? + if you dislike it, are you aware that it's personal taste and not because the story has to be necessarily bad? (You are entitled to dislike things)
Lots of ppl call it bad but personally I don't see why the story is bad, the characters action make sense, the plot is interesting, you can get emotionally invested, there's no weird pothole or ridiculous action. And by reading the comments it looks like ppl are calling the story bad because the ML is a red flag or they don't like the MC BC they don't like these kind of characters but then.. why are you reading this genre?
Personally I like these kind of stories because I like conflict, I like angst, revenge (everything that does not happen if the characters are flawless from the start) I want all these messy feelings and character development, and as long as the story doesn't get problematic (for example ML doing ) I even welcome red flags, so there is stuff at stake you get me? There would be no plot without it. That's the story.
If I wanted a wholesome immediately 'everything is cute and fluffy, green flag yay' then I would have read something different, not every story can be wholesome and easy. Yes he is an asshole but the pay off will be great, there's chance for character development even for FL, so I do not wish for her to get with the second ML.
PS: obviously my opinion will change if the MC is doing completely dumb things for example IF the ML would cheat on her and she would forgive him or smth like that, for example Operation True love was also great in the beginning but got really dumb imo. BC the development just got bombed and trashed. All the investment for nothing.
disliking one thing abt a story isn’t gonna deter people away from reading it bro and every single time i see people complaining abt others putting their opposite opinion on a problematic story its always “why do you keep reading” how do you know someone is continuously reading after that? genuinely doesn’t make sense you’re putting more time and thought into assuming people are picking bad stories just to shit on them and continue reading them. and also TONS of people lie about story’s on tiktok i’ve literally been tricked into reading incest, so people will leave comments warning people
As someone who does read even if I hate the ml. It's the investment of time. There was some kind of theory behind it but I forgot what its called. Anyway, in the end, we all have different preferences so why tf should it matter? Lmao. Also, just think of it like this— although it's fiction, you think of the mc as a friend. Would you want your friend to go through this? Although even if you do say the "pay off" is great in the end, was he really worth all that? She deserves so much better than that. I also don't really see how ml deserves to be with her after what he put her through.
You can also read dramas with conflicts and angst with an ml who's NOT a red flag???? I don't really see how that's supposed to be point lmao. This is not just about the manhwa being "wholesome" and "easy", it's that the ml was problematic in our pov. But I guess you wouldn't get that because you think differently from us, which I don't understand as well but okay ig?
Tbh I said everything in the comment already so
I said in the comment myself that I also read stuff that I hate, and I'm aware that I do it out of guilty pleasure, but I just don't comment BC I know other ppl enjoy it and ALSO you said in your comment yourself that everyone has different preferences so why are you contracting yourself immediately by saying that there can me drama without conflict. Yes I'm aware, I said it in my own very comment, it's great that there's diversity on stories, because that's my point, not every story can have the same plot right?
Also I never said he's not a red flag, when have I said that, I know he's a read flag, like huh? But so there's a gap for character development and growth, I don't get why everyone is so pissed and get so offensive over that question, yes of course I understand why wouldn't I? Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I don't get it.
I mean just because I like lemons because they're sour, and I like them, doesn't mean I don't get it.
Tbh, I didn't have any sleep so I probably misunderstood the red flag part. And tbf "having drama without conflict" does sound contradicting at first glance, but my point was: there can be drama without toxicity. I answered the question you were so curious about, that was the point wasn't it?
But what was the point of asking these questions anyway?? For what purpose? I don't understand 'cause you act like you're asking questions, but you already have your own opinion that you're set on... Like, you ask but then you proceed to say things that SUGGEST that you're invalidating our views (you didn't say it, but it was heavily insinuated); and justifying the aspects of the story that we don't like (which is our opinion that you say you get). Do you truly get that we have different opinions? Then why are you saying things that seem like you don't? That's our opinion, and yes, I get that you have your own. But you literally said "they don't like the MC BC they don't like these kind of characters but then.. why are you reading this genre?" Lmao. It's honestly so hypocritical of you to say that when you say that you read stuff that you hate.
Guys.. these comments about Cesar like okay if you simp for him just based on his looks (tho for me personally he's so disgusting that not even the looks are making up for it) alright you do you, I guess go enjoy girl, if you want him for YOURSELF.
BUT SOME COMMENTS.. like the fuck?? Wdym RUBY SHOULD HAVE CHOSE HIM or worse.. he should have her?? Are you mental?? We drew some weird asd ppl in this fandom
Hate the development fr. Like what the actual fuck.
Idk man, I love angst but not when fricking rape is involved, it could have been so nice, angsty and full of regret and reconciliation but noooo
So I've been letting it marinated for a bit and will continue to do so, but! sometimes I like to scroll through some chapters that's why I don't understand every plot point since I just fly over it sooo..
Can someone explain to me how he's able to touch her and have sex with her ?? Like from the outside perspective is he railing air? When he cums inside her is it disappearing or is the cum just floating in the air? Does someone has a speculation or guess or maybe there was some explanation in the chapters that I missed? Also he's so fucking hot like that body is shredded??! but did he said something with going to the gym lol??
PLEASE It's itchy in my brain because of these questions!!
ik he has the power to interact with ghost but thats all we know rn LOL
//These are literally just thoughts that I want to share
So, Im on chapter 13 now, I found out about the story through Instagram seeing the artist page.I was almost expecting this kind of quality, but due all the respect she's amazing for even drawing all that. And I won't be criticizing the art just because its already impressive enough to do all that.
But its the story that's iffy ig? It's.. uh average? Spiceless? I mean it's build on clichés and feels like a copy mash up version of various cliché Manwhas.
Yk like someone who only read those type of stories and felt like writing their own version of it, but just doesn't know how to make it special or remarkable. It reminds me a little of myself when I tried to write my own stories on wattpad at the age of 13.
You can tell that author has little experience and knowledge about storywriting. The pace is pretty fast, there's no time to take in the little bit of characterization that we get (since characterization is already pretty dull/small).
The characters action feel sometimes very unbelievable or unnatural, which is why the chemistry also feels a little forced.
There are enjoyable bits in the story but it's overall pretty corny and heavy on clichés (even though she tries to make fun of them from time to time or giving it a twist).
I feel like it's still kind of fun to read BECAUSE its so corny and cringe and you can't help but want to know how the author will continue this, even though I'm pretty sure the author's intention was not this at all. I mean I guess that's what makes it so cringe/corny bc as a ready you can kind of tell that author tries very hard rn to make this or that scene serious and packed with emotions.
Okay EDIT: AFTER reading chapter 28 I admit the story definitely got more death and has actually very touching elements and bits. I need to give credit where credit is due.
My points still stands though that the execution and pace is still iffy but damn there was improvement! Also the uncensored smut was a bit surprising (in a good way?)