Oh boy, Yaoi readers sure are soft these days. You’re okay with murder but not a little coerced sex??
You can't be serious right now
Die
IKR. They got triggered by the rape but not the mass murder committed by the characters especially the guy being raped considering he's mass producing doppelgangers to kill off gosh knows how many people in his line of work.
In fact they're practically okay with it I think since I don't see any complaints about it.
U die too
Oh yeah? You first and your family next. I hope they get brutally RAPE before they got murdered and/or DIE in excruciating pain. Your welcome babe.
Looking at ur comments I can tell ur weird and get into arguments a lot, anyway slit ur wrists and jump off a cliff cuz u need to be put in a mental hospital for wishing that for my family u weird psycho, also who tf says babe in an argument LMFAO.. + u have no life no parents no money and no friends <3
Hahahaha stay pressed loser. Humanity doesn't need another existing cancer especially one who green light murder. Also your comebacks are like a lame 9 year old gibberish talk. Doesn't feel good getting clapped from someone way worse than you hmmm. Don't worry babe you'd be in the mental hospital before I do for randomly telling someone to DIE. Anyway just send me updates about your family's painful. Thank you(≧∀≦)
woah y’all these are literally drawn up characters it’s never that serious
No reason to be an asshole too but these did it anyway
*they
Literally. People seriously need to chill and atleast an ounce of respect for others
Well, this certainly isn’t civil, but I’ll try to put my two cents in without being a dick about it like some others.
Not really just “two cents” if I am honest. This is gonna be a HUGE ramble, so honestly most should prob ignore this if they see it. Anyways.
Murder is certainly bad. Murder of innocent people to be exact. Very much it depends on the person, and your own morals. The fact that the main lead is considered someone “bad” and to be “replaced” is a possible question of these morals. A murder, rapist, child sexual assailant, animal abuser, etc, perhaps deserves to be killed, in just my personal opinion. However, you can be considered a murderer for multiple reasons. Maybe you murdered your abuser. Maybe you made a mistake out of your control, but still was directly of your actions which caused death to another. Maybe you were put into a highly stressed and emotionally irate state, where human rationality would not be at your consciousness, and you end up acting on instinct. Regardless, we can always say “who are we to judge?” But humans judge other humans every day.
In this case, its fiction. Humans have always been fascinated by death and those who have caused death. It’s a weird double standard, but yes, we, not just “”yaoi”” readers, as much as I despise that word, are not the only ones who have this dilemma. To some of us it isn’t a dilemma at all, it’s just how we are.
Biggest example I can use, as someone deeply within the community of such, is Modern Warfare 2. There are heavy ships with the characters Ghost and Soap. Both being enlisted in the military and having killed many. Regardless, much of the community does not enjoy or tolerate the romanticization of rape or any such things. That’s just how it is.
The other point I have is that many have dealt with rape and sexual assault in real life. I myself am a CSA survivor, so I especially feel disgust in anything relating to underage sexualization to the point of feeling violent. Not many have faced a close to call to being murdered. Though. Some even would prefer being killed over being raped or assaulted sexually. Far too many take their lives because of experiencing it.
In my personal opinion, rape is worse than murder, because it will haunt you for life potentially. It can make one consider taking things into their own hands, and leaving this world. It can make people become insanely untrusting of others, antisocial, paranoid, etc.
Murder is bad because it is the end of you life, full stop. Many would say they’d rather be assaulted as well so they can continue to live, but that is your perspective and view on things. We’re humans, so we differ in that account.
But getting down to the romanticism of murder vs rape, one of these things are romanticized because of its morbid yet interesting, to some, attractive allure. Someone who takes life is undoubtedly interesting, good or bad.
Another one of these things are romanticized because of a twisted fetishization towards control and abuse. In this case, yaoi communities have many supporters if it because it’s even easier to enjoy gay men, a very different entity to a straight woman, being depicted as abusers and the abused. It allows the reader to separate themselves and feel more comfortable with enjoying rape content. This is not assumptions, this is what fujos have publicly admitted.
Rape does not bring interest either. It tells you everything you need to know about the character or person who has gained that title, rapist that is.
A murderer is something morbid but interesting. Who did they murder, why did they murder / what was the intent, was there signs they would do it, does the way they did it symbolize something?
But I suppose most importantly, when I witness an artist or writer who is into murder boys and manic fuckwads, they tend to enjoy the very fictional nature of it. “Crazy murder man falls for unfazed dude who stumbled upon him mid stabbing and just watched. Now they fuck.” While on the other hand, those of them who enjoy rape tend to enjoy very realistic depictions of it, victim shaming the one being abused, saying the rapist character should be even more abusive to them, celebrating the cruelty and disgusting mindset of a rapist. OR. These people treat rape like its no big deal. Its just another form of sex to them, completely choosing to not see it for what it really is.
People into murder themes know murder is bad and rarely support it. I can’t say the same for people who enjoy rape themes.
Dubious-consent is a bit of a different story. I know some who are masochistic and enjoy the concept of being “forced” to do services and what not, but that’s why its “dubious”. They want to have the forceful nature of it within their boundaries, but essentially are consenting to it or reading about characters who are in similar cases. My own boyfriend is this way. That is not rape romanticization, it’s just masochism, for those who may be questioning that.
Perhaps I have a heavy opinion on this because I am a gay man myself, and seeing how much gay men are fetishized into rapists makes me deeply disturbed, but I myself enjoy a good edgy murderer theme. So yeah. My morals aren’t confused. They are what they are. Murder is fine fictionally if theyre not trying to fucking convince us that a murderer of innocents is actually to be sympathized with and forgiven. Enjoy the morbidity of it. Just be raw.
In no case ever should a rapist be enjoyed for who he is, let alone put into some sob story to make you feel bad for him. He should be wiped from the earth, real or fictional. End of story.
LMFAO ngl I was just bored
Ik ur not talking about my comebacks when you dont even know how to Talk English right. I just had a stroke tryna understand what u were saying.. anyway stop defending people "being soft" about rape .. "
Oh I'm sorry please excuse me for hurting your feelings that you even had a stroke for it. It sucks that you didn't end up DEAD though lmao. Anyway I don't see you complaining about the MURDERS as if mass murder gets a free pass for you(psychopath) and to be fair English isn't my mother tounge but the fact that you responded means the message got through at least. Btw how is your family? are they DEAD now?. Get back to me when they do die. Thank you (≧∀≦)
Yeah right. I agree
I never said that wasn't wrong.. I'm saying that ur agreeing w people being too soft about rape, n the only psychopath is u cuz who's gonna wish someone's family to get brutally raped and murdered.. hopefully u get the help that u need and u go out and see the sunlight, maybe even tough grass (≧∀≦) get back to me when ur done cutting ur wrists !
it was probably easier to 'grasp' it since we didn't actually see the characters murdering anybody. we haven't seen them actually do it. of course it was hinted with the stalker, but the author didn't show us how the guy went about killing him did it?
ur a fucking weirdo dude. you ramble on about how people are so 'soft' with seeing someone get rape and yet you proceed to give death threats to people? it would make sense why everyone finds the rape unnecessary because it doesn't need to be included in the story anyway. THE MURDERS makes sense because thats part of the plot, its the reason why the ml is even targeted in the first place because he supposedly killed people (did or did not its not clear yet)
if anyone is soft here its you guys, whining about how people are okay with the murder when its basically part of the plot
Alright, yeah. I should have expected this thread to continue down the path it was already set on. I’m going to allow myself to be a bit harsh here, given how tired I am of this type of incompetence.
I hope the two arguing here can realize how utterly childish and moronic they look right now. Yes, both of them.
Take a moment and think about it.
“I hope you die (≧∀≦) !”
Please. This is some 14 year old type of shit. Ironic or not, it really makes both parties come across like yapping children. Why the emoticon? Trying to look quirky? It makes you look like a child. Not to mention the continual “I hope you die” to “I hope you AND your family dies! And are raped!!”
Seriously? Do you not see yourselves and how fucking cringy this is?
Pro tip. If someone tells you to “die”, the strongest response you can give is either nothing, ignore them as if they don’t exist, “Nah, I don’t think I will”, or “Damn bro, you care this much?” If you really want to bite.
If you feel you want to comment on the opinion of another person, be a fucking adult about it. You can be snarky, but I promise you, when you start pulling out the edgy remarks over some fucking characters / a story, you’re making yourself out to be the idiot in onlookers eyes. None of the points you make come across when you start saying some utterly idiotic shit.
Seriously, it’s not that hard. Plus, telling someone to “die” or for their family to “get raped” is far from harmful in my opinion. Offensive? Maybe. But it just sounds like some poor attempt to insult someone.
Another tip, instead of that, say shit like, “You deserve a free trip to a mental ward”. “I fear for anyone who comes into a mile radius of you”. Or even “Bro said nothing”. “Lol bozo, L”. They’re either more personal, or simply emmulate a sense of “lol look at this moron” rather than “omg your opinion sucks YOU SHOULD DIE!!!”
Ive said my piece.
true true, why did they even have to say
“come back to me when your family is dead”
they can js apologize except for saying a death threats to their family （￣へ￣）
finally an accurate person, you’re the best at explaining (๑•ㅂ•)و✧
FRR bro they're mad weird
What
Anyways you could've prevented all this clown fiasco if you didn't send death threats to the first place.
I didn't... all I said was die then the other weirdo said I hope ur family gets brutally raped etc etc
You still did. Don't ever try to justify that saying "die" isn't a death threat to the OP.
K
So sorry we dont like rape
lmfao what?? okay let’s be for real here Coercion is forceful persuasion. He got bashed in the head with a clock. Boy didn’t even get the chance to get “coerced”.
bc there's a reason for murder but no reason to rape someone
Coerced? Bro aint even get the chance for that, what is you talkin about??
the fuck are you on?
I like this take. There are definitely people in this world and reflectively so, in their world, which do not deserve to exist (cough cough, rapists) therefore, murder can be justified. but there is NEVER in no fucking circumstance or situation where rape is alright, okay, understandable, or acceptable. It's always going to be something abhorrent no matter the context, and those who commit it should face death or worse.
If you genuinely do not understand what I am trying to say, I'll put it this way, nice and simple;
Don't tell people to die, don't encourage self harm, and / or suicide. First off, it will make others get pissed at you, who would otherwise be on your side, and secondly, you can make way better insults which does not harm your side of the argument. Ones which aren't promoting or joking about the death of another person.
I myself share the same opinion as you, that rape is not a "soft topic", but heavily disagree with how you went about expressing it, therefore can not in good faith support what you have said. Just as an example.
If you do understand what I said however, and your response was an attempted jab at me, then at least that was a show of some improvement.
Haha I appreciate it! Just vomiting out my thoughts at length when I am bored, I'm glad others enjoy it!
Hilarious. How does it feel to get a taste of your own medicine scumbag ..bitter right?. You started telling people to DIE then when they do the same to you.. you started howling like a dirty hound HYPOCRITE. Whether I curse your family to DIE or you it's all the same..semantics and all that anyway you are a disgusting piece of shit who shames other people because they can't speak English right. I'm pretty sure your the type of cancer who shames people for being fat or other minor details you could pick on. People should stay away from you and if anyone needs a 'Kill yourself' appointment it'd be you loser. Speaking of, is your family dead yet? I mean you did get back at me so they must be right? Lmao
@sebastian
Dude, shut up already.
Don't tell me what to do. I can do whatever the fuck I want bitch
LMAOOO You can't be real dude. You really think you're all that? The joke writes itself. Sure, keep commenting and showing us how much of a badass you are, bud.
Uhuh. Nobody asked you to comment. Your not even the subject of my contempt. Take your own statement for yourself. You are in the wrong place projecting your ' holier-than-thou act, voice of reason or whatever you call it. Idgaf about you. So go ahead feel free to yap away till your hands rots. Shameless prick running his mouth presuming things about me. LOL you don't know me asshole.
All of that holds absolutely no water.
"Nobody asked you to comment."
Same to you.
"You are in the wrong place projecting your ' holier-than-thou act"
I'm in the wrong? Was I the one that told someone to die, for their family to be raped and killed? Am I the one that is truly being a "prick"? Or am I just being a prick to YOU for good reason?
Also what is so "Holier than thou" about it? It's just common sense.
"-presuming things about me. LOL you don't know me asshole"
And? You cried about me letting you do what you want. I'll do the same. I base my assumptions upon how others present themselves, and address it accordingly.
Seeing how pressed you are over some shit like this is wild. A loose glass canon, and very little self-awareness. Many of the things you're saying literally applies to yourself. Get some perspective, or go get a reality check you hermit.
I was gonna mute this convo but damn you ate that up
Yeah sure babe nobody asking you to not do anything either. I did say feel free to type away until your hand rots. Preach all you want i don't really care and seeing how pressed you seem to be.. send your useless wall to someone who actually cares. It's not gonna work on me not that I even bothered to reading it. I'll say it again you were not the subject of my contempt and apparently you didn't have the common sense nor the perspective to fuck off. Anyway if you really do wanna tango that bad then you found yourself a partner.
Thanks my man!
You text like some wannabe MC lmaoo, that other person already blocked your ass, considering you couldn't tag them but you continued to throw a weird ass hissy fit
Isn't that contradictory? You say "no one asked" and "Keep typing". Pick one my guy, but either hill is not worth dying on.
What am I preaching? Or are you pointing fingers and claiming all these things without any actual merit or structure behind it, because you don't have any reasonable, sensible, logical, whatever the fuck, argument to back yourself up? That's rough.
You bring up the point of contempt again, I did not address it because I am well aware I'm not your original target, but I really didn't care about that. I see something stupid I feel like involving myself in, and if the other party reciprocates, then its game.
You also seem to try and deflect a lot. I claim you're pressed, you claim I'm pressed. What am I pressed about? Messing with a brainlet?
You say you didn't bother reading it, but referenced points I wrote. Then said "Tango". Fucking golden is all I'll say there.
It's not really a "Tango" though. It's not even a debate. This is just a comment section, and I'm fucking about for the hell of it. Maybe this experience will be a start to your wake up call, or not. That depends on you.
If this is nothing but some conversation you'll continue to piss and cry over, then it's your loss. Nothing I can do about that.
You COULD ignore this, and spare yourself the continued embarrassment, maybe even reflect, but rarely do people have the balls to actually look themselves in the mirror, and usually are too lazy to consider reevaluating themselves. I'm telling you now, it would serve you greatly to do exactly that. Not that you even have to agree with any of my personal stances, but simply sharpen your conversational skills, your awareness, and become a respected voice within a conversation.
If that doesn't interest you, and you enjoy continually making a fool of yourself, be my guest.
Keep up more of the walls and preach to solidify your statements which I don't really give a fuck cuz all I see is BS. Love to see you come up some even more than claims under common sense, blah blah,. I thrive from your thesis and your time wasted on me and for the record when i said you were presumptious prick assuming things about me when you know nothing i was referencing how you assumed I was talking this way cuz I wanted to be badass and whatnot as you have claimed. I'm not. You're like a manufacturer of words producing ways to elevate yourself in a higher plane some of it branching out irrelevant stuff making it a complicated irregularity (bitch it's not that complicated and your way over your head as in get off your high horse) and capitalising on that to suit your own convenience gaining an upperhand transforming the scale into a right or wrong disposition fto put down the other party just to feed your useless ego.Yeah I've met lots of assholes like you. Twist and turn the play on words all you like but I see right through you. Gosh if someone told me you were a leader of a cult or something I'd believe them in a heartbeat.Oof pretentious bitches like you going 'ooh I'm in the wrong/ am the prick?' 'wait lemme deconstruct your phrases like it's a math problem to be solved' bitch shut the hell up. Your head is so up your ass you'd need a rope to yank it out. You knew it's none of your business about me and the other dude yet you just barge in and tell me to shut up? Who the fuck are you to tell me what to do asswad. Alright Mr. Universal embodiment of common sense and voice of impartial judgment and reason lemme make a suggestion for you. Why don't you print your responses then choke on it haha. Let's keep this going just until this thread is muted or otherwise deleted.
P.S like you said you also could have SPARED to ignore my responses when it wasn't for you but you couldn't contain yourself and had to cross me instead of SPARING yourself the trouble. That I could agree on. Now here we are dancing the same dance under different tunes.
Yeah. That's a whole lot of coping.
Look. I tried to give you some advice. You saying how people have talked like this before to you, which, FYI; Is how people normally talk. What the fuck are you on about???
-anyways, people have talked like this to you before. Maybe that indicates something. Like I said, I assume based on how you present yourself, you know, like all humans do. That's how life works. Do I have to say it slower for it to get through your thick skull?
Complicated how? Irregular how? You don't address anything, you don't clarify or actually read the words I have written, and comprehend them. At least I approach this by actually engaging with what you're saying. Dismantling it is sorta the point.
Cult leader? Trust me bro, I'm not all that special.
But hey, I appreciate that you hold me to such high regard, when I'm just another dude on the internet. According to you, I'm some fucking magician with my enigmatic word play and articulation. Some super egotistical prick hot shot. Very flattering, I could just kiss you.
Deflection yet again. "I'm not trying to be a badass", as you make lukewarm insults, call this shit a "tango" or "dance", say shit like "I can do what I want bitch!"
Bro I am begging you to look at this shit. Get real.
Yes, I'm capitalizing by talking to a blockhead in some yaoi comment thread.
You keep recycling the same shit, and there is zero depth to what you type. The saying "Talking to a brick wall" has never been more true.
The extent to which you take this whole conversation is mind blowing. It's not a dick, you don't have to take it so hard.
K why ess
Good good keep the energy up. Make it more lengthy though about 24 pages worth enough to get 'through a brick wall'. Btw I didn't know you were giving me advice well excuse me for not noticing and sorry for not comprehending whatever crap you were on since I noticed that your adept at tounge twisting and Wordplay since i only skim at your trash essays. You could just cook up BS from whatever response I throw at anyway good to know your dumb ego is flattered that you'd wanna kiss me for it. How bout you take a break. You need a good 9 inches on you. Your responses aren't what I'm expecting in the first place. I could not care less. Carry on motherfucker.
@sebastian. That's it? I thought there would be more. Welp clearly there won't be any follow up from you other than sounding like a broken record. So for good closure all I can tell you is just DIE and go to hell and take ur stupid family with you!. （￣へ￣Good luck.
Go back to twt with yo nonsense like be fr no one's dying because of some angry ass kid on an illegal site told them too goofy ass
Oh wow who is this mysterious character. I'm pretty hardly angry and yeah that's true maybe some divine intervention or good karma would do the job. Are you his friend by any chance ..you seem like the kind of asshole who would randomly tell people to DIE for their opinions and whine about it when being done the same unto them.
Lmaoo you are insane. I dont know anybody from this site and be fr YOU are the one telling people to kill themselves and their family. So that would make you the asshole, by your definition. Go take a nap or go to school, either you're stupid from lack of sleep, or lack of education.
Oh? I only did the same but more harsh because some dick told me to DIE for what expressing my opinion? and your defending this bitch? birds of a feather?. Shut the hell up if you don't know anything. Yeah I'm an asshole I won't deny that but I don't initiate random death threats just because I don't agree with others. If they tell me that kind of shit why shouldn't I do the same? it's only fair. Your either brain dead or lack a braincell clearly your education failed you if you side with someone like that. Stop touching grass LMAO.
Not you just spitting out the same things over and over again, its like you never get tired of repeating the same shit you say.
Im not defending anyone lmao, you're just mad at anyone for siding with someone who wasn't you. You're someone who continued to act idiotic and come at multiple people for calling you out on what you have said. You know two wrongs don't make a right, you both were wrong, but you never thought to stop it. You made yourself look worse in this little argument you were mad at.
The fact that you just copied what i said just to try and throw it back at me is so hilarious idk what you're deprived of but you needa go solve that shit personally.
It's called consistency. Did I forget to mention that I said I'm an asshole too?. ,If I'm going to be one I might as well be vindictive about it rather than to half-ass it not being thorough and you just didn't like it. 'two wrongs don't make it right' oh please were way past that kind of morality. It's silly how people specifically called me out for it but not the one who began it. That's what they get for spouting unpleasant shit.
I don't have anything to unpack maybe you do.'i'm not siding with anyone' he says yeah right keep telling yourself that.
Consistent in being immature, thats a talent im sure
What can I say I'm a petty bastard so is that your final pot shot for my truth. Great meeting adjourned.
Bro you sound so cringe rn
Why? cuz I'm speaking about facts? Sure I'm cringe but maybe you shouldn't add emojis when you say something like this like is that suppose to mean/represent/symbolise etc. something.. not that I want to know. Well whatever that's your thing I guess. I don't feel the need to criticise you for it.
Okay hypocrite lmao
I really said all I had to say, if I’m not mistaken. Others have done the same. So there’s not much else I can spoon feed you, unfortunately. I’m also not one to endlessly repeat myself, like yourself. If you don’t get it, womp womp.
What r u even saying bro LMFAO
Big woop all you had to say is 'Your done'. Is it really that difficult
@ghost LMAO your referring to yourself?
@sebastian Dude eat shit and die
You’re one of those yaoi readers gtfo and get a life pls get a grip of reality
i can't believe i read this all and surprisingly i agree with all of your points and i think you worded them amazingly and hope other people will take a few minutes to read this since it's a mindset i think a lot of people should consider props to you!
That dude is high up on the delusional spectrum goddamn
Never said I wasn’t? Maybe you should limit your Internet usage if you’re easily offended.
I'm surprised others decided to read it as well honestly! But I appreciate that so much man!
I don't know if many else would, due to it being as long as it is, but I am grateful some do, like yourself! Just sharing my silly takes for the hell of it, lol.
The most I expect is someone disagreeing or getting pissy with what I say. So this reaction is typically an unexpected, but very welcome surprise! Thank you.
That like the longest thread of argument I have ever seen on mangago history
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neither rape or murder are justified.
Are you sick??
*Reads smut yaoi* *complains about smut* So funny when readers complain about too much sex. Maybe the genre isn't for you lil snowflake lol
The problem isn't the sex scenes. Learn to differentiate things, sweetie. It's impossible that you're too stupid to understand that nobody wants to see sex scenes in the situation the story is in now. First, resolve things, then those scenes make sense. But no, all we're seeing is sex and more sex and no story.
Self identified snowflake
The problem isn't the smut, the issue is that we're on chapter what now, of season 5, and we still have no clue WHY he left. Could it have been the grandfather? Possibly. Most likely. And what exactly did he do? Threaten him? Abuse him? Or was it someone else entirely?
There is zero plot. Just smut. This was not a smut-filled story, it had a level of depth to it. That's the issue. It's a whole other story.
Also of course there was never smut until the later series, so some people love this story NOT for the smut, but we could put up with it if there was also plot, not whatever this car crash is