Genuinely I don't get it. First of all barely anyone acknowledges the trauma that Jaeha went through. Like boy was a freshman being told by his professor that he loved him and got manipulated into having sex at school often even though he was uncomfortable with it. Which ultimately led to someone taking a photo of them having sex, him being outed, getting bullied, and the man he thought loved him leaving him.
Like yeah this man has commitment issues dude who wouldnt after that??? Also so much easier said than done for him to deal with his trauma like who can he talk about this with? His friends? Family? A therapist? Like mental health and being gay are both taboo in korea so this man had nowhere to go. Not even mentioning that his father was abusive.
Is he a perfect character without any flaws? No. He clearly has problems with being loved and trusting others in relationships. He hurts people as a result of his insecurity and guilt. But also he's a human being. He's not meant to be a perfect character. Straight up being honest only reason he ends up being happy is because Eunho is such a persistent bitch who is constantly showering Jaeha with love and showing him that he will never leave regardless of his flaws thus ridding him of the insecurities, trust problems, and commitment issues.
But also I don't get the constant slut shaming. Like he genuinely thought the professor loved him. Then straight up when he first meets Hanjun his first words to him are "I don't date men though". Making their relationship as friends with benefits very clear. If Hanjun still pursues him romantically after that thats his problem not Jaehas ok. Hanuun went into it knowing he was fighting a losing battle and that he was gonna get hurt lets be so real. He was also loyal to Hyeson and truly loved her, author says he's bisexual and truly cared. The reason why they got divorced was not because he was cheating (of which he never did), not even due to the photo. It was because he was too scared to put all his trust into her due to his baggage, and she felt like there was no changing him at that point. That she wasn't a good enough wife if he couldn't trust her. Like Straight up let's be for real this man has 4 bodies only. He's 30 with 4 bodies. Half were deadass relationships: his professor and Hyeson. Only 1 being a full on sex friends situation: Hanjun. And the last 1 being sex friends to committed relationship: Eunho.
Like he's a grown man. Didn't cheat on anyone. I don't fucking get this shit. If you hate him for his baggage and hurting Eunho that's fair like whatever man we can agree to disagree. But the slut shaming is crazy.
Wow.... Tht was whole lots of things..
Well I also agree tht atleast he was not a slut..
But he had serious trust issues and that's wht I kinda hated about him... Cause he knew how much eunhoo loved him but still he was acting like a coward... Idiot... It was nice tht he met his ex wife and she put some shit in his brain.. And then he got together with eunhoo again...
LOUDERRR!!
I agree, why must people slut shame... If you make it clear what you want from a relationship, why must you be blamed for it?
claps for u
Youngwoo is a horrible person. First of all no way they just "happened to kiss somehow". I full on believe that he kissed him while Taejoo was drunk cause he didn't think Taejoo would remember. Then Taejoo is drunk and vulnerable and he took advantage of his confusion (thinking Youngwoo is Yoon) to have sex with him. Like let's be real Youngwoo had dubcon sex or in my person opinion raped Taejoo. Then misleads Taejoo into thinking he is the rapist????
I feel so bad for Taejoo, and I see some people being like "oh he made his choice and he regretted it too late". Like let's be real he was heavily manipulated into that choice. Just imagine thinking you're a rapist and that you need to take care of your victim. He didn't want to let Yoon go, but his guilt towards Youngwoo made him prioritize Youngwoo's wants and needs rightfully so. Now does this make him a perfect person without any blame? Obviously not, but also did he deserve any of this? No.
Taejoo so clearly loved Yoon too. Like when he breaks up with Youngwoo, Youngwoo says they've been together for almost a year. Meaning that Taejoo kept looking for and missing Yoon for more than 4 years straight and the only reason why he had to stop is because he thought he raped Youngwoo. He wasn't like perfect by either obviously asking Youngwoo to stay even though he wanted to go but I mean his fears were proven correct when Yoon got hurt and disappeared for 5 years straight. Like even when they broke up properly the second time Taejoo was just such a good guy. Wholeheartedly believe that if Youngwoo didn't fucking do this shit that Yoon would still be with Taejoo for sure.
Not saying that I don't like Kwon I just feel for Taejoo you know? I feel like he suffered so much, to lose your boyfriend for 5 years and not knowing if they're dead or alive, then thinking you're a disgusting rapist, just to find out your boyfriend isn't actually dead but you still can't be with him, to then find out you were never a rapist but it's already too late to be with your true love. It's just depressing.
Yes Taejoo! ┗( T﹏T )┛
At least show us his happy ending TT
But it's been years since this story was completed and no extras or sides fml.
Re-read today and I still feel so bad for Taejoo.
He suffered most and his sufferings was not shown much so we could sympathize more with MC (Yoon)...
Darn imagine feeling like you're not a priority, always having to wait for a lover that goes to dangerous places all the time, then suddenly losing connections for 5 years without knowing what has happened only to get pieces of his items back, then 5 years of suffering and searching for answers, then being taken advantage of when he was vulnerable (drunk), then seeing his beloved back alive but he can't let go of the ties he made with that bitch because of the leash this liar put on him without him knowing the truth, then pushing his loved one away because he felt responsible for this liar, being suffocated by the liar's demands and manipulation he finally went to give himself some space to breath ONLY to be bothered by the liar that keeps guilt tripping him and then he FINALLY finds out by accident that he wasn't a rapist but it was all TOO LATE.
┗( T﹏T )┛
Aigoooooooo I love the story a lot and I'm glad for Kwon and Yoon BUT Taejoo's sufferings was really downplayed a lot. Readers sympathized a lot with Yoon because we were exposed to his own sufferings but Taejoo's sufferings were only showed with tiny flashbacks. If Taejoo was the MC here and we were shown his pov we will probably blame Yoon more lol.
I understand Yoon loves his job but for Yoon his career was the priority more than love and family. He's lucky to have Kwon who understands that.
I need a story with Taejoo being HAPPY!!!
I have NO sympathies for Youngwoo. He was toxic as fuck and clearly suffocating Taejoo. If Taejoo didn't hear Youngwoo and Mr. Park arguing about his lies he probably would never know since Youngwoo was set on not letting him go. He could've thought about telling Taejoo the truth but nope in the end he only had himself to think about.
He also wished that Yoon was dead. Like OMG. Red Flag. Even if I have some kind of rival in love I would never wish for their death just to monopolize a lover. I had some sympathy for him from the beginning but after he mentioned that he wished Yoon was dead I lost all my pity for him.
Everytime yoojin and sung hyunjae interact I physically have to remind myself that this isn't bl
no real Σ( ￣□￣||)
I let this marinate so that I wouldn't be edged like this and I should've read the comments before I caught up shit
OH MY GOD YES
Do you want me to spoil youu? I've read the Novel up to 800 chapters
If you can link the novel instead I would appreciate
Helloo, I'd be down for spoilers please
please give some spoilers if possible
Yes
Sooo, here goes the spoiler hahaha.
The Mount Hua disciples didn't get to see Chung Myung and the Elder fighting, as well as the Beggar with 7 Knots and his disciples. Moving on, There's nothing inside the chest box and the underground will collapse after the Wudang Sect's elder opened it. After the ground started shaking, Chung Myung thought that they might all die and argued with the elder from Wudang because he threw the box after opening it, causing the underground to start collapsing (Remember when the Beggar get the red luminous light and the path that they're running, collapsed?).
So, Chung Myung thought a solution, and that is to Jump off the the cliff because the ceiling was collapsing. The Wudang Sect and the Beggar Sect followed Chung Myung and after they all jumped down, Chung Myung shouted to everyone that they should start digging the soil. Even the elders of Wudang started to follow his lead as if it's natural. Then, before the ceiling's debris harm the disciples, they saw a door after digging the soil. Chung Myung pushed Baek Chun and the squad to the opened door, then the other Sect's disciples also did the same.
After, everyone jumped down again, they're in an open space where they could feel the debris falling from the ceiling. Chung Myung held the ceiling with his hand and used his qi to hold it. The Wudang Sect's disciples and the Beggar Union's disciples also copied what Chung Myung is doing, and after that, they got out of the underground thanks to Chung Myung.
So, in Conclusion they didn't get anything at all and got injuries HAHAHAHAAHAHAH Wanna know what's next? Because the next is the plot twist of it hahahaha
OMG PLEASE TELL WHAT HAPPENS NEXT IM INVESTED HUHUHU
After everyone came out, Chung Myung with the squad and the Beggar Union's branch leader, rested in Huayin Sect (Subsidiary of Mount Hua Sect). After some days, Chung Myung and the squad departed to return to the main sect. Then Yoo Iseol (if I'm remembering it correctly) asked a random question about the sword graveyard which led everyone to think about the answer. Then, suddenly, Chung Myung keep mumbling to himself as he realized why they didn't found the Chaos Origin Pill (name based on Novel).
Chung Myung with the disciples of Mount Hua, realized that starting from the Door, it has an engraved sword facing each other that represents a martial sect.
After entering the door, it started as a wide pathway that people can walk/run. After running for a while, the path became narrow until only 1 person can walk/run. Also, there are traps and even zombies, bats, etc. It represents the challenges of Martial Artists. They start from the basics (wide pathway) then, faces challenges (traps).
And at the end of the path, there is a cliff with the chest box. That represents the goal that a Martial Artists wanted to achieve(enlightenment), but the chest box was empty. So, Chung Myung came up with the idea again that if a martial artist didn't achieve his goal, he will look for another way again.
As the place is crumbling, everyone jumped down off the cliff (the other way). And on the bottom of a martial artists struggle, there's still hope. But after realizing it, instead of going back, they should move forward.
After everyone got out alive of the graveyard, they all thought that Immortal Medicine scammed them into thinking that there will be Chaos Origin Pills inside the underground.
Wudang Sect's disciples returned to their Sect, as well as the Beggar Union's and the other Martial Artists who received the news.
But before Chung Myung and the others returned to the main sect, they solved the riddle of the graveyard.
Sword Interceptor, was a person who fought strong martial artists and collected the divine swords.And his other nickname was, Immortal Medicine that created the pills.
The sword graveyard with the divine weapons is the grave of his other identity, Sword Interceptor. Which means, Immortal Medicine, who created the pills had a different grave.
Chung Myung kept walking and passed the graveyard. They saw a healthy place with, animals, plants, grasses, and small hole with a water flowing. Then, Chung Myung knelt infront of the hole, and inserted his hands up to his arms. His hand found a chest box and inside, was the Chaos Origin Pills and a procedure on how to make it.
Anyone who doesn't know how futile martial art is, can't realize what Immortal Medicine is trying to convey. At the end of his life, he felt deeper emptiness than anyone else, and yet he could see what Immortal Medicine was trying to say because he was moving forward again.
So in conclusion, Sword Interceptor (the other identity of Immortal Medicine) hated Martial Artists, that's why he created the sword graveyard to pass his will to the one who will solve the riddle. And Immortal Medicine doesn't want to hand the pills to martial artists because they are greedy with power and wants to harm more than to help others. But, no one would be able to solve the riddle if Chung Myung is an ordinary person. So in the end, the one who understood his message was still a martial artist.
But we all know, that Chung Myung will use it in a good way. He'll feed the newly made pills to the disciples of Mount Hua to help them grow more, because the original pills of Mount Hua, has been lost.
Yoonbum genuinely sucks ass
Now I don't necessarily think he deserved the torture sangwoo put him through
I wouldn't wish it upon him
But also if sangwoo was a normal dude, yoonbum literally stalked the dude, broke into his home, and jerked off in the man's bed without his consent
If that ain't some form of sexual harassment idk what is
Don't even get me started on what he did to that girl in school
Sick of seeing people see yoonbum as a baby who needs to be saved
Like the man's not innocent and honestly he landed himself in this mess
Let's be real if sangwoo wasn't a crazy murderer yoonbum would've become a serial sexual harasser
Like I see most people be like ok Sangwoo had sad backstory and that explains why he's a horrible person who does bad things but that doesn't excuse it
But why can't most people apply the same fucking logic to yoonbum
Ye he got molested by his uncle but that doesn't give him the right to fucking be a shitty dude
They both fucking suck as people but that's why the story is so interesting
I'm just sick of people being like yoonbum is a little baby who need protection
LIKE NO FUCK HIM HE REAPS WHAT HE SOWED
I really like subin and jun's relationship. I feel like it's kind of realistically unhealthy if that makes sense. Subin has a lot of problems like low self esteem because of his past with hyunwoo and Jun's age/experience. He never got attention with hyunwoo and acts out with Jun. But you can also tell that he still really admires Jun because he wouldn't have this inferiority complex if he didn't. Jun also (albeit a Saint compared to subin) shows he notices his flaws when he gets hurt by what the girl coworker says on the roof. He realizes that maybe he didn't necessarily provide subin what he wanted in that moment. Instead of listening and empathizing he gave advice (which is fine if you're asking for advice but not if you're just ranting). It shows that there's still emotional immaturity and a lack of communication in the relationship. They care about what the other thinks but because they don't communicate they overthink. They are trying in their own way but its misunderstood as not caring and a sign of falling out of love. I can definitely see that they love each other but they also need to work together to better their relationship. Subin highkey needs therapy after hyunwoo. He also needs to learn how to communicate his wants to jun in a more clear and healthy way (rather than yelling and threatening to break up). Jun needs to reassure subin more and be more attentive. He can also be more expressive and communicate his thoughts more clearly as well. I really like the realistic part about how they deal with fights because they literally live togetger. Even if they're mad they go to sleep in the same bed. They both apologize. They worry about each other at work all day. They think about each other a lot. They know each other's mannerisms exactly. It feels like a natural relationship with ups and downs. Like subins trauma isnt automatically fixed just because he loves jun. They arent automatically great at relationships just because they're in love. It just feels more relatable than a lot of other relationships ive seen in bl or fiction just in general. I really hope this season strengthens their relationship and delves deeper into it. I just want more Jun and less hyunwoo lmaoooo
Ngl at first I thought it was just a coincidence they resembled kagehina so much then I looked at the author's other works and they made so many fucking kagehina djs im-
I'm surprised you got to this story before the kagehina djs amdmsmd
Lmaooo it's cause I usually don't read djs;;;; I read this when it was coming out and I still only realized now
Omg
Skdkdfkd well a lot ot the djs are really nice, I recommend checking it out
They legit got rid of all the detail in the art. I usually don't care about art changes if it's not that bad but they deadass used to color the hair and now it's a big block. I'm actually fucking mad.