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everything I thought about dohun's mother was confirmed but at what cost bro was 5 seconds old and was experiencing advanced psychological torture

I'm forever feeling sad for lil dohun every time he shows up on a new chapter I get so sad.. he thinks strangulation, guilt tripping and abuse his mother did to him was how she had show her love...

I think it's interesting to analyze dohun as a victim of (covert) incest. ngl I thought he was SA, the way his memories of his mother blends with sexual scenes in his present is still making me suspicious. could also just be how the author portrays the effects of his enmeshment. i think this chapter most clearly shows how dohun seeks his mother even in his romantic relationship (although that was obvious from the start lol), desperately using sex and strangulation to keep yuwon from making a suicide attempt like his mother.

the last panel of this chapter was so good it felt like my heart was squeezing lol dohun's relationship with his mother and how that shaped him even now is incredible

it's kinda nice to see dohun throwing all the abuse he went through on their faces. like oh you do feel resentment.

anyway do the right thing dohun kill your father and you will be reincarnated as a lotus flower

i like this chapter because it's one that clearly shows how dohun's lack of socialization still affects him to his adult years

the only reason he is able to understand yuwon's actions even a little is because he compares it to his mother who was vocal about her pain (and took it out on him). every time someone else (the mother, brother and even the manager lol) says "I feel x way because of y" dohun applies it to yuwon. but dohun himself doesn't really understand why yuwon is in pain

like why did he even think yuwon would be happy at seeing proof of seongmin's double face? the very act of filming it and waiting for the perfect moment to show it is clear that this was more for dohun's satisfaction. but as dohun sees yuwon as a part of himself he doesn't even consider what yuwon actually feels when he sees the proof

this is why he is able to say he doesn't regret those 13 years away while yuwon is never able to forget the pain from it

and he is only now realizing that reality doesn't match up to his fantasy.

it kills me that even after all those years, dohun still thinks about his mother so much. still thinks about how miserable she was and how he couldn't do anything for her....

like the last time he saw her he was around 5 years old? but even as a 31 year old man he still can't help comparing moments of his adult life to the time he was with her. dohun is probably always chasing that image of her, wanting to give her happiness despite the misery that surrounded them

dohun's mother was too mentally ill to take proper care of him, neglecting him and abusing him. it seems like she even tried to kill herself in front of dohun (her neck is suspiciously hidden in ch 81) she is pitiful, but a kid having to deal with all of that in his developmental years makes me so sad. he was just a child who wanted to comfort his mother, it's no wonder he was already a bit emotionless.

I think the reason she gave him away to his father was because she finally gave up, she just couldn't take it anymore. if u notice when dohun first went to the park, his father told him that his mother didn't want to see him, but the second time it happened the father said that she was gone. now I don't trust him, but this makes me think she killed herself during those years

just want to appreciate the person who is uploading s3 for a sec. we're catching up so fast. I'm really happy about it thanks

man I thought dohun was just being a pervert when he groped drunk yuwon in the car but it seems like he was confirming seongmin's words huh the fact there were hints about this all the way back in season 1 really does make me impressed with jakpil more lol s1 dohun does so much shady shit u can't help put yourself in yuwon's shoes and wonder if this guy is even human but now that his mentality for his behaviors is being revealed the reason he does those things make so much sense (even if his justifications are weird lol). it really does make me feel sorry for yuwon tho it feels like he will never be surrounded by good people in his life and the people who seem to care about him just disappear or hide things from him

lmao getting to see everyone distracted by the last panel AGAIN like guys let's focus on the fact dohun has been hallucinating and replacing the flowers the whole time?? even as their love rotted and his mind deteriorated dohun still clinged to his only comfort and ever more distant love. it's a really nice way to see how their love has changed/rotted but dohun refuses to see it/refuses to change with it, because admitting it would simply break him

I think it's incredible that dohun somehow only learned the bad things from all of what yuwon did in front of him. there are really no good adults or role models in their life. seeing both of them being okay w being harassed for a job breaks my heart someone save these kids

speaking of adults, his father is so creepy. I find his intimidating/terrifying appearance reveals so much about how dohun thinks of him. maybe dohun doesn't care about what happens to the company, but he definitely fears his father, even if he doesn't say it. the way he completely froze when his father mentioned yuwon? the fact hes still getting beaten even as an adult for "education" (although I guess that's just normal for him)? his father is basically saying obey or die so I hope dohun kills this guy soon

I was waiting for this chapter to be translated holy shit its peak.

that fairytale is pretty blatant in it's parallels to their relationship. to the point I wonder if dohun wasn't the one who made it up himself after it got burned.

but there's something interesting I saw a kr fan bring up. the way the deer originally went running to get water to save the tree, but got caught up in the talk of destiny, and when it came back to the tree it only talked Abt building a house, having completely forgotten that the tree still needed water to survive.

but even if it did find water, there was no way for it to bring it back. so "isn’t the water that the tree wants something the deer can’t provide, and a problem it can’t solve?"

dohun is so focused on destiny that he completely overlooks what yuwon really needs. he wants yuwon to be happy more than anyone and constantly seeks to fix what makes him suffer, but in his obsession to be the one who makes yuwon happy, he completely overlooks the actual reason yuwon is so miserable isn't something he can fix. even if he has money, gets rid of bullies, tells yuwon to blame him and gets a house with only each other for company yuwon wouldn't be happy. unless dohun realizes this.

my guess is that for yuwon the water is "connections/relationships". yuwon needs to not feel alone, to have someone by his side who won't get hurt bc of him, he wants a relationship that brings him the same security his parents did. dohun just can't provide that security and love yuwon experienced in childhood since he himself never experienced something like that except with yuwon. and by isolating him, hiding things and trying to solve all the problems by himself, dohun is just driving yuwon away

also the way that guy says that dohun needs to learn how to let it go, but he still clings to the dying flowers yuwon gave him... merry bad end here we go

it's kinda fascinating to see how even yuwon wasn't able to change dohun back then, because dohun is so set on the idea only him can make yuwon happy. it seems like he genuinely thought abt the good ppl in his life, but he refuses to accept any variation to his views, bc then it will be like admitting that he isn't necessary for yuwon's happiness and break his happy soulmates fairytale (and it doesn't help that their abusers tend to validate his view).

but unlike yuwon's, I think his father's influence goes deeper, not only bc of the brainwashing (but ofc that plays a large role), but also that dohun actually liked the idea of revenge, bc it made yuwon happy, and bc it allowed him to completely eliminate others in the way of their happiness. dohun is scary but kinda behaves like a child in the way he picks up what others tell him. like dohun following his father's advice in an exact way and following yuwon wish for retribution in the exact way too, even his father was surprised by that lol

his desire to protect yuwon is childlike too, it's rooted in an innocent wish to be loved by someone, but to me it seems like he isn't even aware that he just wants to be loved. his extreme actions are part of who he is now since that's the environment his family cultivated, even if dohun was in the basement he still learned the exact behavior he should have to succeed in the family by abuse and by seeing how his brother was treated.

for someone like yuwon who was raised with empathy (before his parents died), I can see why loving dohun is suffocating. having someone say they killed for u is too much for anyone and it haunts him all the way to his adult years. he completely erased the memory of himself wishing for their death and dohun confessing he did it bc of him... yuwon just can't believe it in his mind that someone he loves would do something like this because of *him*. dohun was a large part of why he dissociated so hard too, and then u get the multiple head traumas he's had then it's no wonder he just forgot

I love this terrifying aspect of their relationship. ultimately they were both kids with issues that couldn't have been solved by each other, even if dohun tried. it's not pretty and confirms to me that they were doomed even from the beginning. this wasn't something that could be changed with just love and I like that

why didn't dohun just use his brother's money to pay off the bullies and keep yuwon from working? is he stupid? /j