So, people seem to love pining, yearning MLs....... Do they like yearning MCs too? I like both. But many a times I've noticed that they find it frustrating if the MC is the one chasing and getting snubbed even if it's in the first quarter. What about guys?
i honestly don’t care if it’s MC or ML, in bl, i want the seme to be the one chasing and yearning, in straight romance, i absolutely want the guy to be DOWN at his knees for his girl. always men yearning even if they’re the MCs
Hm that's kinda giving stereotypical gender roles. But that's fine if you're into that. Is there a reason why though? Just curious.
i like a yearner/obsessive MC but then the top should be princess/sweet enough. kind of like a dom yearner bottom(badass for everyone else, down bad for ML) and sub dense top(timid to everyone else but surprisingly horse in bed yet a crybaby/princess)
i love a good dynamic that makes you second guess heteronormative roles.
some examples:
–red string quests (yearner crybaby top, clueless whiny yet protective strong bottom)
–die in my arms( the bottom is CRAZY let me tell you T_T but oh i love his obsession. he is a bottom only for MC(top) and needs MC’s c*ck like oxygen i kid you not .but with anyone else he was nonchalant toxic top, but forever obsessed with MC. and only wants MC in a possessive way, even if he was sleeping with others. (MC was married to someone else at that time)those b*tches are kinky and freaky and vanilla?they never heard of it)
–kiss me if you can(the MC has a push/pull tug of war with ML. he is obv attracted to him, protects him, but at the same time does not want to be with ML because he thinks ML doesn't remember him. (ML and MC had a one night stand and lost their v-card(both of them) during ML's rut and MC got pregnant and had a child.) the MC is one of my favourite omegas of all time. so badass.
no not stereotypical gender roles, it’s like, i just want to see a man getting humiliated and yearn sm for a woman imo it would be giving stereotypical gender roles if the woman would b the one yearning but in this case it’s not.
i don’t really have a reason im just a misandrist and whenever i see femdom i LOVE it, im really into submissive men in fiction, like buff men especially, i love when semes are down bad for their lover and would do anything for them. one of my fav trope. basically i like roles are reversed, i like when bottoms are dominant, love when women take the lead and make top so submissive
have you read sugar trap ?
Die in my arms
Mad place
Ang and/hard boiled love
In my bed (?)
Assorted wildness
Boss bitch baby (except for the omegaverse side story where he fucks others as a top....which is different from die in my arms coz the omega fucks other alphas while still keeping hojin...and like he's goes crazy when hojin leaves so it's not like there's a mutual agreement...also he's kinda a sugar daddy to hojin but hojin isn't looking for benefits....he missed his college assignments.and couldn't graduate coz mc called him out etc...so hojin stays coz of love and mc loves him too but still doesn't treat him like a lover, he isn't considerate...fucking others...(Lol imagine if an alpha only topped for an omega and bottomed for others lol..... something like that)...and he tried to leave many times but finally did when the omega said he had to marry someone else (an omega too)...so yeah he's quite he red flag...but honestly i still liked the fact that he's crazy about hojin
And additionally I love the chaser bottoms /fls even if they're the non dominant types...like a timid man/woman who are surprisingly persistent and can take rejection and still be adamant? Not to the point to being either doormats or stalkers. But yeah somewhere healthily in the middle. The thing is....I feel the frustration n sadness of a character in one sided or unrequited love....and then not getting the reciprocation....but I read it anyway. I'll feel equally bad for a top or a bottom or whatever they are. It's not like a seme or ML is bound to be in love first just because he's the main character's love interest. That should be his only main characteristic. I like when they have layers too..like the mc. I think I like it more when it gives as if there are two main characters ( with mc having a slight more central position but not too skewed).
Oh by gender roles i meant the stereotype that men are supposed to take the initiative etc....and they have to do the "asking out"
Not the humiliation part....
And i seeeee. You're a misandrist. Well it's none of my business i g .
I was just reading it....how did you know
ITS SOOOO GOOD
ohhh LOL okay i get it, yeah it can see as a stereotype
it can be seen*
of fricking course!! the top is so beautiful, and pathetic, i kind of feel bad for him. darling has accepted that he is side piece, still wants to be with the bottom. i cannot wait for the time when they both find out that they lost their v card to each other yet were pretending to be all that pre booking front row seats for their "post-true confesion" f*ck session. i am waiting impatiently.
Damn.... I'm not there yet......but he's mistaken.about being a side piece right ?
i guess one of the reasons could be the inherent power dynamic and switching of the "roles". a receiver is considered more feminine, and has more of a "chastity" thing burdened to them, and more vulnerable. (how irl, virginity of a woman is put on pedestal, and how bottoms/effeminate men are hated more because of homophobia/misogyny). the one "getting fucked" is already a notch below the one "who fucks", in the 'vertical hierarchy' patriarchy creates. so in a sense, the 'top'/man being chaste, or the one who chases, or the one who yearns and is pathetic (a virtue otherwise tied to a 'feminine' stereotype ("crazy obsessive retroactive jealousy induced gf", "clingy girl" and their villain-ification as opposed to the supposed "cool girl" hyper-fixation of men) gives a sense of balance. in a rigged system created by misogyny, a relationship doesn't have true 50-50, and hence the one who is more vulnerable, or more exploited, giving even more looks like it's 60-40 even if they're technically 50-50 on paper. until and unless we ground the levels of s*x and consider it as an equal activity, ie. “making love” instead of "fucking/getting fucked", we will never get out of heteronormativity. it's a very patriarchal concept and condences an otherwise mutual pleasurable activity to giving and taking. and the one 'giving' bending over backwards for the one who 'takes' feels wrong somehow, as you'll never see it in any other give/take situation. but s*x isn't give/take. it shouldn't be. this mindset makes s*x exhausting and taxing mentally, on one party (giver) because it's only so much you can give, but the 'taker' can become greedy or lose interest and walk away, wanting to 'take' from someone else instead.
the extremity of this leads to commodification of one group, solidifying a vertical hierarchy which wasn't previously there. it puts men/tops on a higher step, because no matter how inferior they are they will always be takers, hence there will always be a giver who can be lured to give.
one of the reasons BL has straight female audience is because they can self insert themselves into a demographic which is 'above' them and watch how the story plays out when the atrocities faced by them is shown to be put on men. in a sado-masochistic fashion, they empathise with s.a. in bl's but still can't look away, and are fascinated. they feel bad for bottom, but also feel a satisfaction of a grotesque sense when they see them getting berated. alot of women might have suffered through s.a. or some form of exploitation, and feel the successful manifestation of revenge when it happens to one of a man. the nice guy 'bottom'(who is nice generally) suffers from the hands of playboy s*x offender top, and in some twisted subconscious mind, a woman goes, "see, it's not funny now when it happens to you, huh?" and they like seeing a nice guy suffer because the woman was also nice, wasn't 'bad' in her eyes, she was innocent and was still violated. so it feels eerily satisfactory (maybe) to see a 'nice guy's suffer for the sake of it, because 'boys will be boys' to boys as well.
however, this mentality is problematic and women do become self aware now and then, and some were self aware from day 1. on the other hand, green flag bl's satisfy another craving women fantasize about, 'to be equal' to men. men, even if bottoms, are still equals to men just from the mere virtue of being 'p*nis havers'. so, they possess the quality of a taker no matter how dormant it is. now that i think about it, the reason why yuri is not as popular as yaoi is because of its vagueness of government/taker dynamic. a female top is still a 'v*gina-haver' and by virtue will always possess a 'giver'/'getting f*cked' quality(for the lack of the better word). moreover, top/bottom dynamic in yuri is comparatively vague than that of yaoi. more so, because since ages, s*x has been about p.i.v. (with former definition of r*pe being if and only if p.i.v. happened(which imo is very purity culture based because only p.i.v. has the ability to having taken a v*trinity). a woman cannot take anyone's v*rginity because she's incapable of performing p.i.v., and that's why lesbian hate is more of a ignorant/'won't acknowledge you' kind, while gay hate is more of a shunned/'how can you willingly choose to be a giver's kind (hence why bottoms get more hate than tops in gay community, tops put themselves on 'top' of the hierarchy, pun not intended, there as well too)
ultimately, men love d*cks, men love what they can do with their d*cks, they are obsessed with it. patriarchy becomes euphemism of phallic worship more than it has been men/masculinity worship. if it were masculinity worship, tomboy women wouldn't be called dyke, or been told to present 'feminine'. they don't like femininity, and they don't like masculinity coming from a person who doesn't possess a d*ck.
this is just a (mostly) coherent essay on what I have come to think of misogyny and power which ssociates with it.
coming back to the question, why most women don't like bottoms/women being chasers? because a person who already is more at risk to be s.a.'d or exploited, wanting to chase a person of their predator kind, feels humiliating, and we want them to 'stand up' and know their worth. we want them to balance the power imbalances which is already there and gain a upper hand in the power dynamic. s*x, atleast in human society, historically and currently, has mostly been about power play.
oh yes ofcourse love, he is heavily mistaken about being a side piece. the MC is so deep in the closet he literally never interacted with anything remotely gay because he fears the consequences of being ‘out’, yet wants the love. ML on the other hand misunderstands MC and thinks he has a colorful past with many men, because MC kissed ML in military, and took his first kiss. he despises him yet is still obsessed with him, and wants to be the only one MC would want, since it was MC who came at him first, so he feels betrayed how now MC has so casually been sl*tting himself out(he is literally not though ) to other men. i haven't read the novel but apparently the misunderstanding drags till almost the end of the novel, it's basically the entire plot. i love me a good sl*t misunderstanding, and i love the art of sugar trap. so clean and pretty. it seems that author is a fan of "virgin x virgin" / "first and last" trope, which, freaking good for me. i have no problem with promiscuous main characters coming together, love me a freak4freak dynamic too, but there's something so lovely about a first love trope
I love virgin X virgin trope fr.
you are my friend without question
i guess i love the trope so much because i like the giddiness and confusion and rush of the first love. it's really cute. for some reason i can't bring myself to read a virgin x whore pairing because WHAT DO YOU MEAN my brain switches to anxiety mode, retroactive jealousy mode, and it leads to hate, it pmo so bad. the worst thing, i know it's wrong. maybe it stems from me hating power imbalances in a relationship, reason why i don't like age gaps as well. on the other hand, i like a slut4slut pairing with level 100 yearner levels (10 DANCE im looking at you) but I just can't wrap my head around virgin x (reformed)player trope. that's why never got the low tide in twilight hype. like wdym a player and also a r*pist? yeah NO. i have filed myself up over "protect your purity" because I just feel so sad i don't know....my retroactive jealousy kicks in for hyunjin. I had to stop reading that manhwa, it was paining me alot. the thing is, i can get around if for some reason the person balances if with other heinous act. like, in "the heart of the lotus"(black flag toxic manhwa btw) the top, s.a.'s the bottom, and that is so aggravating i don't feel sympathy for him, the "he's losing" feeling. although yes with time I do understand why he's doing the nasty stuff, he is not capable of healthy human emotions, that's why. but for some reason it makes my brain think "everything is balanced" even though he literally s.a'd him?!? and i know logically it is wrong, but my brain is literally f*cked up like that. maybe I take it personally and fear the 'competition' that's why, idk.
comparing it to genuinely nice lovesick yearner ukes who are just so fricking sweet and only loved one man forever, getting paired up with a man who was with someone else before, oh god it infuriates me. makes me feel, "oh what do YOU KNOW?!? you don't even deserve him".
happened with me in the manhwa "protect your purity" (as i said before, i literally had to quit, i could not go on, i felt personally attacked everytime they were together, when the top (forgot his name) said "you're so bad at kissing" yeah no shit, because he's not a wh*re like you bro stfu (-_-). and when hyunjin accepted his feelings and kissed him and he went "you're still bad at kissing" F*CK OFF i wanted to slap him. (T^T) you take sh** for granted huh? cheat on him hyunjin, f*ck his life up)
and in the story, "dreaming of the dokkaebi",felt bad for the top, imagine being trapped for so many years BECAUSE your lover trapped you, remaining chaste and bottling up your anger and love combined, only to get out of that realm and see your lover reincarnated and wh*red around with other men, he strong af i would kms no kidding)
in "the secret to winning unrequited love" I felt bad for the bottom so fricking much i literally felt like crying. i had lump in my throat when i got to bottom (kang hyun's) pov. he LOVE the ML SO MUCH. he deserves so so so much love, i literally can't see MC(top) treating him bad yet still wanting him, sure buddy i get you're dealing with homophobia but please, don't f*ck my baby kang hyun's life. you have 0 idea what kang hyun is feeling. he loves you so much you can't even comprehend. you are not deserving of that love. accept that love with humility and grace. he literally went through pain and humiliation from you, gave you his first time, even while knowing you'll never love him, he has loved you selflessly. and you hate him? you hate kang hyun? shame. on. you. for my sanity i deluding myself into believing they're both virgin x virgin because that's what keeping me sanity. helps, because after sleeping with kang hyun, the MC(top) hasn't dated anyone for 7 years and fixated on him everyday, dreaming about him and all.
Those are a lot of profound thoughts, rooted in present day realities of the world. I appreciate you taking the time to explain that to me and a lot of it is thought provoking. And while I too like many people enjoy realism in stories.....while I'm searching for entertainment, I tend to not look for a lot of realism because honestly, reality isn't all that entertaining, it's even painful....it gets darker as I get to know more about the world so yeah .... Not much fun there for me. I have a few types...n while I'm open to exploring..i still tend to like only those types of stories mostly. I just want two characters who have flaws but are not irredeemable. They must care for one another n respect each other (not necessarily from day one). They must not be pos to people other than the two MCs too. I can't get past physical/emotional cheating or assault.... basically maliciousness even once. And i for the most part hate it when they are jumping between many partners, seme or uke. My fav is virgin X virgin of course. I love angst n conflicts heck even misunderstandings are entertaining BUT.....i like them due to EXTERNAL factors..... realistically...they occur because of internal problems as well but no..... i don't enjoy that too much in fiction. I want a meddling wanna be home wrecker or a zombie apocalypse or an evil family member/friend to try their best....and i wanna see them FAILING spectacularly. I love the "they'll fight to be together until the end". I like reciprocation even when it's not verbal but through gestures. Absolutely hate it when the feelings are lacking or decrease or when any of them are swayed by a third party. Both of them. Bottom line is : as long as they truly are willing to make efforts and their feelings are genuine..so are their actions... it's my kinda trope.
The secret to winning unrequited love is indeed the best out of them ones you mentioned. And yeah in dreaming of the dokkaebi, i feel bad for the top too because he was going insane trapped there and no body really understands him....and mianchan blames him for seeing him as his past lover.....n he's cursed (the solution is sex of course...preten to be surprised
Biscuit
RIGHTTT??? i love how he just wants to please the bottom, that’s all he cares about
biscuit??
Ohh sorry that was a mistake....i was just reading "biscuit" don't know if I like it ... another virgin X slut pairing....lol. but it's a bottom like top.... he's an asset though...he was pretty rough with the bottom who's a virgin because the top is prejudiced against him....but the bottom is bending over backwards for him coz he likes him.
girl I don't read virgin x slut pairing. No hate to you or anyone who reads it. But I avoid it. Gives me pain. The Secret to winning unrequited love had me choke on my breath so NEVER. I don't know, if I find a character I like so much, because what's there not to like about Kang Hyun, and characters like him. (The Uke from "The Third Ending" and Baek Sohan from Love in Orbit, and you can say even the uke from "Backlight") They just make me feel things, they're so lovely. So boyfriend material. Also, the uske from "Love Plan". Reminds me, how I love "Love Plan". Good ones are always short. Anyway, I feel so sad for them, for no reason as well. They're just so lovely, they're my babies. My shayla~
So I avoid this pairing. Anyway, I don't know, thinking I might follow you, let's be friends or something, hope I'm not imposing haha.
Also, random, but going to put you on some comics I ca recall from top of my head that's were really good and if you haven't read please give it a try.
-"Naked sword and tree peony of the black" (will forever glaze this manga till the end, there's something so likable about it. Old men yaoi, virgin x virgin yearner top, buff bottom, ikemen bottom, yakuza uke x lawyer seme)
-"Love Plan" (PEAK. virgin x virgin classmates to reunion to lovers, the top is yearner and obsessed and autistic vibe. chaebol seme, with seperation anxiety. smut is so hot)
-"Off track crush", "Red string quest"(smut fest but cute stories. virgin x virgin. older uke younger seme)
-"Born to love you"(manga, reincarnated lovers, oh i swear I felt something when I read it first time. Virgin x Virgin.)
-"Murderous llewrllyn's candlelit dinner(shonen ai. virgin top x experienced bottom and probably the rare ones where i like virgin x experienced trope. Love the story. So much. Must read.)
-"Lost in the Clouds"(Shonen ai. Virgin x virgin. Past trauma toxic love to mutual understanding love. Oddly, made me realise that what happened to me was SA. COC SA. Had to sit with the feeling for a bit.)
- "Love in Orbit" (I love Baek Sohan (uke) he's the kind of beauty that grows on you. I found him so alluring. Sihwa is the prettiest top I have ever seen, and yes I have seen Seo-In from Backlight, Sihwa takes the cake still, because he's the best. He really came to like Baek Sohan. His monologue “I lived an empty life devoid of choice. Now this being is filling up all my emptiness. He's the only one I ever chose out of my free will. Bark Sohan, Baek Sohan, Baek Sohan. I like you. I like you so much Baek Sohan." Oh man chills. And Sohan saying, "I can't deny it. There's something about two friendless guys going at it." Melancholic smut always make me feel things. There's parental neglect trauma that both share. It's beautiful. I know I am glazing it so much.)
- Pizza delivery man and gold palace. (Beauty. Although S3 was angst and craze. S1 was peak.)
- Do you still like me? (Oh for some reason this was melancholia. Felt like I'm listening to NFR by lana visually. They're so sad, that's why they find each other, console each other. An age gap I was okay with. (30 y/o uke, 38 y/o seme). Alpha x Alpha. The seme is beautiful.)
-"Home Far Away"(Mandatory tragedy read)
-"Kotaete My Drifter" (ah why so sad? love, love love. but pain pain pain)
- The Secretive XX (Alpha x Omega yearner top. Virgin x Virgin. Im a freak about this. I love Uke. He's so handsome. Buff bottom truther forever)
Sorry for imposing so many comics on you. But you can try them if you like. Maybe you've read some of them. Xoxo.
Yeah girl... i don't especially dig it too but I read anyways.... sometimes I hate read cheating stories....and writhe in pain watching the comments defend cheaters coz of xyz.... Why am I like this lol. Anyway thanks a BUNCH FOR THE AMAZING VxV list gurlllll.
And since you said you don't read slut x virgin so I'm guessing you wouldn't have read "hit me hard"....? Good decision though...coz while the younger virgin top is all like...I love hyung...hyung only cares about his dick and "freshness" the most so yeah......
Oh that one had summary that made me sad. I purposely avoid things. I like a good slut4slut though. And some toxic yaoi also. Die in my arms, and Yuwon everlasting are my current toxic yaoi currently. Yuwon everlasting is also virgin x virgin but it's so creepy I love it.
Another peak toxic yaoi is Bad Apple. I know it had SA but I liked top I know I questioned my morals as well. He is so crazy you can't help but enjoy it. Also, he clocks the MC's tea all the time and shows him his place when he gets overconfident and too cocky. I enjoy a bickering cat and mouse chase real enemies to lovers. You know by the end of it they'll be obsessed with each other. I was hyped reading it. That one scene where the seme f*cked him. (Yes SA), but the way he pulled uke's condoms out of his pocket and did a "clack!clack!clack!" And popped the 3 of those condoms packet in front of his eyes, as he had him bent over. And he said "you see mr taylor, unlike you, i know exactly where I sow my seeds" oof hottie black flag. You sassy with that?
I know it was so morally wrong of me to enjoy that scene I'm self aware. But god was it so hot. Also, the uke is a strict top, and bi. But he got assigned bottom when he picked fight with prettyboy enzo stefano(mafia nepobaby seme). It's a slut4slut freak4freak. Altho I'll say uke was more of a slut. But seme took his anal virginity. He f*cks him and uke is frowning, unable to relax and he goes "never knew handling a virgin would be this hard" (smth like that) ooohh you know uke got roasted. (Since uke is literal fuckboi body count in 100s and a good f*cker literally. But top only.) Buff bottom x Pretty top pairing. toxic yaoi. but oddly fun to read for me.
girl it is so difficult why are gay men so promiscuous? im crying pls stop having s*x.
that meme always,
"me when i'm in doctor's clinic with my mom and doc asks sexual history- sex is disgusting tbh just waiting for the govt to ban it"
as a person on ace spectrum, ykw heck yeah
Loooollllll. Heck yeah !!! I support #LearnToKeepItInYourPants #MakeYourBrainAscendFromYourDickAss lol.
Yeah....I see that our tastes match pretty well . Good thing I posted this question!
Vibe matched so hard bro!! Were you on THAT SITE as well? If yes what was your username maybe I came across your comment there as well? I would remember the name of you were a frequent commenter like GlennMcQueenSimp or Yamapookie or I_like_my_tops_virgin, and such. Oh god I'm blabbering. i can't take the name but you know which one site I'm talking about. I mourn that domain forever. The comments oh god I miss. Please I need a comeback.
Nah girl I was just some userrin23535... something like that... don't even remember. Yeah all the comments are gone .... I had FEW people agree with me....like you too...but still those were some good convos. Truly sad
Oh I don't remember usernames like U 2445 or something like that sorry. I was by the same name MrRover. I made account hastily so put exo kai's song as my name haha. Miss that site so much it pains me. Comments were peak there. Still I'm glad your and my opinions match. I loved going to account profiles and reading their bios, and "this user is lazy and hasn't updated their bio" haha. Oh the funny things. Im talking like it's been years but it feels like it haha.
Yeah mangago is our last fortress now. Lol.
Does anyone have any spoilers for " Onajide wa Irarenai kara " ? Not yet on mangago... it's a sequel to We won't call it love...
I want authors to write a few good manga/manhwas with tops as MCs.....damsel in distress top mc.....debt ridden top mc....top who gets cheated then finds a hot bottom ml.....bottoms fighting for a top.....a 2nd ml bottom character and all that..... please huhuhu. Give me trashy MLs who are bottoms.....and hurt the top by confining him and forcing him....and then they get forgiven coz why not.
YESSS
Hey, does anyone remember a Korean bl where, the seme is a hagwon/cram school/academy teacher and the uke reunited with him as a new employee at the academy but he's actually a spy for the rival academy. The uke wronged the seme in the past when they were highschoolers. Back then, the seme was shorter, cuter(lol) and kinda subtly bullied, nerdy loner, the uke was a cool kid n pitied/befriended him but later the seme overheard the uke taking to his friend about how he doesn't actually want to be friends or doesn't find seme fun (something like that.) basically it was just uke coming under peer pressure coz he was the cool -delinq kid who at some point didn't want to be seen as the only one hanging out with the loser for no reason ig? He just went with the flow and said yes yes to all the bs his mates were spouting about the seme. He became a horrible friend that one time. The seme then punched the uke lol. Then they broke the friendship and separated???
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Back to present the seme still does not have a favourable opinion of the uke coz he's hurt, but the uke wants to be friends ig? Also, uke is gay now and has a f buddy (who made him be a spy infact). They later end up sleeping together and the seme develops feelings only to one day witness the f buddy kissing the uke...and....etc
Japanese yaoi in which seme- cafe manager/owner who's older than him n pervy keeps calling the uke "brat".
Seme as a child was accused of stealing at a birthday party. It was a girl's bday party in elementary school ig? The seme was poor so everyone pushed the blame on him even though in reality the girl had just lost her keychain or whatever that was. It was a flashback.
They first outcast him coz he's "dirty n poor". Then a girl who pretends to be good befriends him and they invite him to her house before doing this shit to him. He gets traumatised ofc n maybe turns shitty? Idr. Was a manhwa.
Trash Belong To The Trash Can
It's a yaoi tho...(The one I'm looking for)
Hi, once again I'm here.
So does anyone remember about a Japanese manga. Which goes like...
1. Started in high school. Uke is younger than seme and he falls in love with the seme who's a family/childhood friend. Nothing from the seme's side coz he's kinda straight but I think he's in school too.
2. Seme is friendly and nice. Once the seme gets a gf and idk maybe they're doing something in his room or just sitting together and the uke comes to visit in his uniform and when the seme went away for a moment to bring snacks etz he get's into an argument with seme's gf and ends up hitting? fighting? wih her which the seme sees and yells at the uke. Uke runs out .
3. Present day uke lives away in tokyo or osaka idr but he wakes from a dream of his past. We come to know that he's become a complete fboy and currently has a guy he sleeps around with. They're in college I think.
4. The seme comes to the city for something and visits his friend (uke). The uke let's him stay over his home but is awkward and distant. Still glad. They talk about that gf incident too nd kinda resolve it.
Ofc the seme still doesn't know uke's feelings about him.
5. Now I don't remember what happened in the middle maybe some romance buds but the uke thinks seme is going to have a family etc so yeah. He tells the seme to leave but before that the seme comes to know about uke's sex partner. Maybe he visited him at home or something. So the seme asks the uke to not do "this kind of thing". And the uke is like oh so you hate it coz I like men....and the seme denies saying he just wants uke to have a proper wholesome relationship etc. The uke gets even more upset hearing this from his "crush" so he chases him away.
The sex partner actually likes the uke and asks him to try dating him instead of sleeping around.
6. The uke thinks let's give it a try even though he clearly love the seme but chased him away. The new 'couple' is at the college canteen and they're eating, talking etc.
They make there way to the uke's home and on the way find the seme standing there and this time he's decided to confess coz now he's clear about his feelings. So he does but the new 'bf' comes in between and says he's with me now and "you don't know anything about him and his difficulties, easy for you to say etc." Idr the uke's reaction much .. he already had a bf now so he was using that excuse but still hesitating.
7. Finally he chooses the seme and it's all okay. I don't remember if he even got involved with the partner sexually once the seme came to visit him ( after all those years ). The partner goes his way hhahaha he really liked the guy but first love was what made the uke all stoic and a Playboy so it won.
Omg yes yes ! Thanks a lot bro
Please help me.
Does anyone know this bl (I think Korean).
Again I remember just snippets..
1. Uke is like a director or president of a company and he's a pure capitalist. Like deals are what's important to him no matter how (I remember him even giving sexual service to some chinese clients for expanding his business (in the later half).
2 so I don't remember how he met seme but maybe it was coz the seme was helping him with some documents, seme is kinda a nobody (also an office worker in another company or just a partner for the uke) so after the uke thinks he's done having fun plus the seme is no longer useful he gives him some money over dinner and cuts him off. The seme feels humiliated especially coz he had started really liking the uke.
3 The uke's secretary has a thing for him and doesn't like how he sleeps with the clients but stays also isn't fond of the seme. The uke tries to do it with him too I think.
4 towards the end, the uke's business is somehow suffering due to scandals etc and he is really desperate.
5 the secretary even mentions the seme in passing saying that he's found a new company and is doing well overseas but the uke doesn't seem nostalgic or anything he doesn't even remember the seme properly
6 So in the end the seme is the one who's more powerful now and he (I think) makes a deal with the uke (asking for him ofc) in exchange of saving his business???
7. What's striking is how the uke is only bending for him now that he's powerful and the uke needs him for business. He's not really shown to be in love or anything.
It's not long maybe around 35-40 chapters.
gonna camp here…it sounds cool
Sounds interesting. Well..I will join waiting for the title then.
Well Done!
https://www.mangago.me/read-manga/well_done/
Omg thanks a lot
LOL wthh.. this is one of the lowest rating manhwas i've ever seen
Yeah it's awful but I wanted to know the name anyway
That's the lowest rating I ever seen
Does anyone know a Korean bl. I remember snippets.
1. Started with an interview for a waiter? position and the seme is part of the interview team?. So it's a reencounter and I got surprised by who turns out to be the bottom but they both are pretty manly in appreance. The bottom has white hair.
2. The top (who I thought might be a built bottom but was wrong) has a restaurant/hotel that he owns coz he's become the lover of a rich woman.
3. The white hair is not liked by the kitchen staff and gets slapped by the chef who was fired by the top(black hair ig)
4. In a scene the customer ladies request a dish but maybe it's unavailable so the waiter uke apologises and the situation is saved by the owner seme who later scolds the uke a bit. Sorry that's so random lol.
5. In a scene the white hair watches as the seme leaves with his lover/sponsor. And then they have sex during which the seme is thinking about the uke and his ass?lol and ends up putting his finger up the lady's ass lmao, she's offended and says IT CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT PREPARATION. He tries again and is slapped, she asks what's wrong with him.
6. Later on the top break breaks up with the woman and loses his restaurant and assets to be with the white hair. I'm pretty sure the white hair turns out to be the uke.
I don't remember anything else like the ending or whether it's still ongoing.
I'm desperately looking so if you remember anything about it please let me know
Thank you so much dear manhwa angel.
You are welcomeヾ(❀╹◡╹)ﾉ~
Does anyone know a historical josei manhwa in which when the ml n fl are children..the fl's father has ml imprisoned and abused coz he hates his fallen family etc. The ml resents fl n her family too (obv) but one day the fl helps him escape and sets the hut he's kept in to fire...the ml says she'll regret this coz he'll still take revenge from her father etc. fl still helps him escape. Years later ml is now someone important (i don't remember is he's a duke or a knight) and I think he kills the father (or maybe imprisons him I don't remember) and takes the fl away. Then he marries her or maybe just keeps her....and it's love-hatw going on. And i don't remember if it had explicit smut but the gaze of the manhwa is indeed not non smut.