Most of the comments begging for the new chapter are good-natured but some of them come off kinda weird and entitled. Yoshikisleftnut is primarily a solo translator. It’s very rare for manhwa chapters to get an unofficial tl as polished and high quality as theirs within a day or two of uploading. If you really feel so strongly about being forced to wait an extra day or two, you can either 1. Buy the chapter yourself. Or 2. Send Yoshikisleftnut a couple dollars so they can buy the chapters and translate them faster. Their work is unpaid so it’s not realistic to expect them to be able to spend all their time and money buying the chapters and translating them. They need to take care of their needs too. Anyways, shoutout to Yoshikisleftnut. Thanks for the hard work.
Oh god I personally was saying things jokingly but some of these comments come off as alarmingly serious
these people have gotten way too spoiled. i have no clue what gives them the audacity. and on top of that, you see people bashing yoshikisleftnut for the most shit ever, and i can't help but wonder why they don't just buy and translate the chapters themselves if they dislike the current translator's work so much.
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Juyeon’s common fucking sense appearing to him in the form of some ghastly apparition telling him NOT to take it easy on Jiwook is frying me. Girl that’s your rationality talking. You’re just thinking with your dick. Juyeon is my favorite girlfailure in da world. Wdym you’ve backslid from revenge to pity for the guy who tortured you he’s always touching and loving on that man too. It lowk breaks my heart. He could’ve had that when they were middle schoolers but Jiwook screwed the pooch and now Juyeon can only comfort himself with a facsimile of their young love now that he’s got Jiwook in his house, forced to keep his mouth closed and his legs open.
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Also it’s interesting how his biggest priority with Jiwook’s phone is that Jiwook doesn’t escape. In the novel he doesn’t rlly care about possibly going to jail for kidnapping and rape. They’re both unreliable narrators, but Juyeon would rather attribute his feelings about Jiwook to pity. Like one might feel for a kicked animal. That part always fascinated me because he’s always trying to protect the power dynamic between them, but the irrefutable fact is that Jiwook has SO much power over Juyeon. He wants to abuse Jiwook but also endear himself to him? So that Jiwook will both fear him and be attracted to him. And in this way he can reverse the old status quo where Jiwook had all the power and held Juyeon’s feelings over his head. I think it rly hurts Juyeon to think that he might always feel more for Jiwook than Jiwook feels for him. Because that means that he might never get out from under Jiwook’s thumb.
When I was a kid I watched a movie where a girl cuts her anus while shaving and I threw up all over the carpet. It was only thanks to Revenge that I was able to get over my fear of anal trauma. Thank you Fallnick for what you did for me.
Genuinely why is it always the hoes with the most problematic fav media who have the most to say about Revenge. Let Juyeon get his lick back in peace lol.
You go into their lists and there’s some pearl boy or jinx shit going on, OR the person who made their peak is a legitimate pred.
ONG lists be full of the shit they literally start arguments in the comments about. -.- like are you fr log off!
Can we kiss.
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I wish someone had posted the artist’s supplementary chapter that had the birth dates and shit so people can stop saying there’s a much bigger age gap than there actually is. For the curious, Jiwook was born December 8th, 1996 and Juyeon May 5th, 1998.
I feel like this is the chapter that’s really going to show how far they’re going to adapt because I’m pretty sure there’s a little paragraph about Jiwook shitting on a puppy pad and throwing up on himself. They’ve shown puke, but I’m not sure if guys in BL are allowed to shit.
Yeah ,I think just like the dog scene, the Author might stray a little bit from the novel to avoid such scenes ,or else it'll be hella gross
I’ve been thinking about how smelly it must be in the red room bcus they have sex in there constantly. The room must be filled with booty air. How often does park even shower jiwook anyways. Ik park gets shit on his dick.
LMAOOOOO
Jiwook probably smears his doodoo on the walls
I know that room smells like doodoo, also wanted to add they might break a golden rule in BL were the characters are not allowed to take a dump, we are gonna be traumatized in different ways guys.
Lmao your username
Yes, its very creative you like it? (=・ω・=)
naaaah he just peed on a puppy pad ... highkey just as embarrassing, if he had shit I was never going to read this again
You know Koreans eat alot of spicy foods i know damn well it would stink really badly plus some of the seafood dish, oh boy....!
Also who do you think would clean it up, well whoever would have to clean it up is gonna need a mask like---
Calm down bro you’re wayyy too excited about the contents of this dude’s colon im crying.
But if he does poop it would go against the yoai law wouldnt it?
I always say this but all the real haters evacuated MONTHS ago because they actually stuck to their principles and weren’t interested in continuing to read a story about sexualized rape. Which I respect lmfao. All the people still here being confused why the comments are full of people gooning to Jiwook and Juyeon are fr just larpers. You guys are fucked up too. Embrace it and we can all hold hands and sing.
and honestly i dont know why author is wasting their talent on something like this...i know considering their previous work.....but i really like their art(pretty top). I wish they can make a fluffy work someday.
Lee Geumsan isn’t the author. She just works on projects as the illustrator. But if you’re wondering why she picked such a dark story, it’s because tortured men became her niche after she worked on Sadistic Beauty Side. No, stories about men being abused and sexually exploited aren’t very unique in the genre, but it’s rare for a multi-chaptered work to be so focused on the borderline ryona torture. You could ask any BL artist to draw a story about a guy who gets beat up a little by his top, but Lee Geumsan is one of the few who capture the agony of having your agency taken away AND draw good porn. It’s a successful niche because it caters to people who enjoy the endless stream of abuse with no respite.
We can all have a bonding experience while we witness the unfolding of these events ╮(￣▽￣)╭
tbh i first liked it...but the moment i see blood between sex... i cant just watch it anymore i know its office topic but i cant inderstand why people likes the grape plot. there was a bl called cherry blossoms after winter. it was a masterpiece but the author suddenly comes and adds a grape in it.....sorry im just yapping and shit
Well, I’m glad they included all the blood and injury because it doesn’t let people forget that they’re reading a manhwa about rape and coercion. Some people can act like it’s not rape if it doesn’t look overly painful. Also, you really don’t need to censor the word rape by using grape. Mangago doesn’t flag those words and it takes away the meaning of something as serious as rape.
I’m seeing too many people saying the story should be cancelled because they personally felt offended by it. I can say is that if you think the author is at fault for making this manhwa when you’re the one who can’t stop reading then maybe it’s time to go back to watching Cocomelon, or something…
How captive do you have to be for the only way to ‘end your own suffering’ is for the story itself to end? Do you not have object permanence? Barely developed frontal lobe? :(
Cocomelon??
Tbf that’s probably the only caliber of content some of these folks can handle. They’d get mad watching SpongeBob because they’d think Squidward is abusive or smt.
So like,,,,,fun fact: Juyeon is literally bisexual and could be with anyone but he’s addicted to rapist thug bussy. I feel bad that he has to know Jiwook for the rest of his life but on the bright side Jiwook also has to know him, so it’s mutually-assured destruction.
wait, juyeon is bi? can't even say me and the girls in the comments have a chance, he's literally too busy showing jiwook who's boss. damn, what a guy
Haha yea he’s too invested in his pet abuser-victim. This is all stuff I’ve read on the author’s old twitter (which is no longer active) so I have all this Juyeon trivia bouncing around in my head. He gets a high-paying job, picks all of Jiwook’s clothes because he wants to make him look like an idol, and the animal that represents him is a porcupine. The Juyeon psychosis is so severe. I love my problematic daughter.
so fucking cute. i want to wrap him in a blanket. jiwook should suffer endlessly
My piping hot take is that people who actually want to analyze the characters should talk about the cursed (and now deleted) Dog Extras. Obviously people are not gonna feel comfortable with bestiality, but if you’re gonna dive into the weeds of Jw and Jy’s morality, then you need to acknowledge the authorial intent behind the character writing. And part of that intent involved using animal rape to show their depravity. “But that’s just the author’s kink and should just be ignored since it’s not canon anymore” i disagree with this take because for 1, this whole story is like a summation of the author’s kinks. Such as the top who was smaller and more submissive as a child growing up to be big and mean. Such as describing the state of the rape victim’s anus in excruciating detail. YES, the story is psychological and has bits and pieces that can be compelling, but that doesn’t free it from its kink work status. It’s less of a psychological story with kink elements and more kink story with psychological elements. And 2. The author retconned the story shortly before the manhwa release. Revenge was published in 2021. Meaning homegirl had 3 years to sit and stew with the animal rape chapters in their story, but only retconned them when the story was actually about to be mainstream. That’s not a sign of them changing their mind on the depraved characterization of Jw and Jy imo. That’s just cleaning the story up for the fujos who r like “I can excuse rape but I draw the line at animal abuse”. The Bad Life manhwa did the same thing. Ofc the bestiality chapters are gross and distressing, but they’re also a stark rebuttal to people who try to assign moral superiority to the characters. They both chose to abuse that animal.
that is crazy. i did not know about those extras. it would change a lot of perspectives. i dont really wanna look up those extras either LOL but.. both are just as insane and you really can't justify either of them. ┗( T﹏T )┛
i would be flabbergasted to know anyone trying to compare any sort of judgement between ANYTHING in this series. but man even so without knowing this information, it still is hard to stomach what's happening in front of you. can you even blame the manhwa only readers
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+majority of readers on here would jst assume the obvious that jy is just extreme depraved psycho without any context. but for me, i jst had an inkling jw would be too. e_e
The way something can be the authors kink and still have an intent in the work is something most people cannot comprehend, because it sounds contradicting when it is not.
But what made me more surprised is the aversion to poop lol. Like you can watch SEVERAL chapters of rape and gang rape, but you draw the line at poop appearing???? It is so absurd it is a bit funny.
In a way I understand why most people have a higher aversion to bestiality, cause it is also why people would have a bigger aversion to seeing a kid in place of jiwook. Both are rape, but seeing an adult being the victim of it is different from seeing an animal or child. Because our mind knows that an animal or child can defend themselves even less. It plays on degress of cruelty, this is also why people get less bothered fo see mass murder than rape.
I honestly do not mind ANY topic being used in a work, but I dont think this work has maturity enough to treat bestiality so I think it would be kinda wasted in the sexual atmosphere that exist in this work, rather than a psychological terror atmosphere. At least it was my feeling in the novel and how it was written, it leans too much on the kinky side for it to have a terror feeling predominantly. This happens a lot when you consume horror movies. The line between horror and fetish is so thin when """"sexual"""" acts are present and lots of times you can see when one work leans more on the other side.
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think people have a strong aversion to scat and other bodily substances that aren’t yAOi sQuIrT because it breaks the immersion of two flawless, hairless, ken doll bodies slapping against each other sexily. Revenge isn’t very typical “sexy” but yaoi physics and logic still apply. Like how the fuck is Jiwook not dead already from living in a miasma of his own fumes? And yes, people are understandably far more averse to seeing animal or child rape in comparison to the rape of an adult man (who the story gives you a reason to hate). I suppose there is a level of contradiction there, a lot of readers in Korea are super gung ho about reading standard yaoi rape between two adults nut balk at anything else. There was a very unique situation when Revenge first came out where people were upset because Jiwook used derogatory language towards women and spread revenge porn, but hardly talked about what happened to Juyeon. Mind you, these were people who were otherwise fine with the sexualized rape. I think I understand it because women in Korea have every reason to be tired of seeing abuse of women in fiction. It’s still interesting to talk about though.
Haha yeah, it’s pretty insane stuff. I don’t like the chapters on account of me not liking animal rape (shocker) and so I completely empathize with people who want to ignore that they ever existed at all. I just think they show you where the author, and by extension the characters heads are at.
Wait there was a chapter containing beastiality? And the story had very extensive description about the child's?? Perhaps I didnt know about it. I read the translated EPUB version so perhaps its a later revision. But like how did animal abuse in this story played out? Like who and what? The version I read did indeed have pretty indepth description of abuse but it also equally delved into about Juyeon's state of mind so I came to conclusion that its a psychological horror story with M/M elements and having scenes like this seems to be pretty much running theme in most novels geared towards this niche to the point its shocking how normalized it is. The stories romanticizing miscommunication, power trip and abuse in relations, non cons and stuff like that is disturbing and even if the story itself uses those elements correctly, the beautification of scenes by making the characters look attractive or making the setting feel erotic and sensual is starting to warp the sense of reality and is dangerous
I think Korean society as a whole frowns upon anything related to queer but they sure as hell love the queer aesthetics. If anything they are using the hallyu wave and sexiness to sell the idea that South Korea is desirable, trendy and cool. Its a common practice to use sexuality as a tool for commerical purpose. Its not just in traditional settings. Social media algorithms actively reward such thing (cough..cough instagram). Have you noticed why fitness influencers bare their skins and pose in a suggestive way to capture their workouts and men grooming and lifestyle influencers always follow a pattern of them flexing muscles and showcasing their bodies? They are selling their sexuality as a means to gain interactions and the algorithm rewards it! I mean people would stop scrolling when they see a hot person showing themselves off and they'll post comments telling how hot they are. Engagement drives popularity
Its not just sexualization of their people, they also infantilize their people (especially those record labels and talent mgmt companies) to market their people and before you know it, people are cheering and adoring on a guy with a baby face who's actually into his 30s. The funny thing is that for a country producing pretty hardcore queer content, they certainly are against it
Exactly, I agree totally with your comment. Just like women in horror, god FORBID any of these men have hair in their ass or ball sacks, just like you said they have to be plastic ken dolls. I can read several chapters of rape, but i draw the line at normal body functions is how most audiences sound. It is like they pretend they want the raw reality, but they actually want the sanitized version of it.
Because even when rape is meant to be brutal (it is revenge, it is violence, it is a hate / obssession relationship here that is so twisted) the worst thing rape can be is not being violent, is is not being dehumanizing , it is being gross.
About jiwook misogynistic derogatory term use, I think your take is pretty nuanced and yeah, it is pretty much that. So complicated that we can see both sides of women being so thrown off about him saying misogynistic stuff, but at the same time being okay consuming sexualized rape... like... idk did they expect a man that does that to not be misogynistic when he did that to women too? It is pretty realistic. But at the same time as you mentioned it is understandable that korean women are tired of seeing that It is such a gray situation
Yes, there used to be a chapter with bestiality, and no, Juyeon’s abuse was not depicted in explicit detail. There is no explicit child sexual abuse in the story. And I think most people who are into dark shit sexually aren’t going all in on the grossness. They’re more into the power play related to a loss of control and the absence of consent. Unless you’re on some demon shit like Gengoroh Tagame, most “problematic” artists won’t bother showing extreme bodily trauma, bodily fluids, hair, etc. I don’t think fiction like this is inherently dangerous, but it’s definitely worth analyzing Why these stories are produced as they are. For example, I think a lot of messed up BL coming out of Asian countries exists as a way to see very clean-cut and indulgently problematic sex in a way that omits women entirely. Part of it is definitely misogyny, but like I said before, many women in Korea in the manhwa space are sick and tired of seeing violence being inflicted on girls and women in their “fictional safe spaces”. Writing yaoi like this allows them to explore the dynamics of abuse and coercion without having to see it happen to women. I get it, though. Because like I said: most Asian countries are hellish for women. Even in creative fiction spaces men are constantly showing them how much they hate women.