I remember years ago when I was talking about how I preferred yaoi over shojos because the heroines where too childlike, too timid, too shy, too much of crybabies, too sensitive, too naive, etc.
None of them had a strong personality. They were all poor little things that needed to be safe. As a girl i couldn’t connect with them at all but more than anything, it was just soooo frustrating to read that I couldn’t even enjoy the romance. So that’s why I stopped reading shojo and i really had my preference for MxM relationships. AND GUESS WHAT, THIS MF DAN HAS ALL THOSE SHITTY PERSONALLY TRAITS THAT I HATE SO MUCH LMAO. The man is in his thirties and not only does he look like he’s a teenager, but he also acts like one. But not just a simple teenager, he acts like a shojo teenage girl……… the kind that I literally can’t stand. At this point, the resentment I have is more for Dan than JK. Because JK may be an asshole but since the very beginning he was clear with his intentions and the relationship he wanted with Dan (only sex and nothing else), so tbf, he has no obligation to be “nice” towards Dan. Dan is the one who “fell in love” with a guy who’s only been a fucking asshole since the very beginning (the guy has no self esteem lmao) and who has too much expectations (because he’s so delusional that he thinks that JK is a nice person and could potentially loves him too). So just because he has too much expectations towards a man who has been crystal clear about his intentions, he’s like all sad and disappointed every time the man doesn’t meet his expectations. But like ?? The man has told you multiple time that you were only here for sex and nothing else. The reason why he’s so miserable isn’t entirely because of JK tbh, it’s mostly because he’s dumb, delusional and has no self esteem. And of course the only thing he will do about his misery is crying in the corner like the crybaby he is. Even tho he’s 30. I’m not saying that a man in his thirties shouldn’t cry BUT THAT’S THE ONLY THING HE DOES. HE NEVER SCREAMS, NEVER YELLS, HE’S NEVER ANGRY GODDAMMIT. HE’S ONLY SHY AND TIMID AND BLUSHING AND CRYING OMG.
I can't understand him and I don't want to. His character is like a snowflake and it makes me so madge. Forget about jk's character development, dr dan growing a fucking backbone is what I wanna see
EXACTLY OMGGGGG
Well said ! But it seems BL artists and readers love this character trope, I used to think,considering how most yaoi readers are female , then maybe it’s easier for them to connect and imagine themselves as the uke , but then uke in bls got more and more dumb , whiny and a total pushover, I’m like hell no, no girl wants to be so weak and stupid! So why they’re so famous? I just don’t understand!
I knooooow right !! I have no idea why it’s like this…… and I hate it so much. So damn much.
Mmh I feel like I should stop reading it cause it hurts too much. The poor guy is only a teenager, and he has no idea what’s happening to him. His whole body is changing, not only he’s suffering of body modification but he’s also gonna end up pregnant ??? In the first place, it must be terrifying for a teenager to have an unwanted pregnancy but he’s also a guy (a “cis” one) and he’s gonna be pregnant ??? In a world (cis) men cannot be pregnant ???? Can you imagine the trauma ?????? There’s no way the author can convince me it’s gonna be a happy ending. Even if he’s « happy » with his alpha and their kid at the end of the story, there’s NO WAY i would be satisfied. This must be the most traumatizing shit ever. Also, the whole world might probably know about it eventually. So the poor kid will be talked about by everyone as if he was the strangest creature ever. And even if he stays anonymous, he’ll still have the most traumatizing experience ever, and he will probably be the one to think of himself as the strangest creature (and it would be legitimate as fuck). And he’s ONLY A KID. Also, he’s literally rotting in a storage. He’s waiting hours and hours, in so much body fluids… not only his own but also the MC’s…. And it has been mixing all together… marinating days and night… even inside his own body…. And he’s not even showering… not even once… and does he even go to the toilet at all ??? I know it’s just fiction, but I can’t not think about all that……
So all he has been doing for days and nights, is waiting ALL ALONE in the worst conditions ever, and fucking with the MC. Then he’s waiting again and fucking again and waiting and fucking etc etc. AND NOTHING ELSE. FOR DAYS AND NIGHTS. AND WITHOUT CLEANING HIMSELF, NOT EVEN ONCE. Every time I see the MC in his own room, or in class, I just think about the dude who’s suffering all alone in the storage……. He just fucks him, leaves him, and then goes back to his everyday life…And even if he gives him food and all, he could also help him clean up a bit… even with just a tissue or something… ALSO, he could lie to his parents just like the poor kid is doing just so he could spend the nights with him……..
I know that it’s just a fiction, and I’m taking it too seriously but it’s too much for me, it literally feels like I’m reading a horror story but it’s not even supposed to be a horror story… like bruh
this straight up read like a horror story to me, i’m glad i wasn’t the only one who picked up on all this
Omg I came to the comments to say the same thing! I’m going to keep reading because it’s an interesting concept, but the sex scenes in this don’t really feel “sexy” to me, I just feel bad for both of them. It’s feels similar to watching someone go through puberty, I’m like “oh, you poor things!!! ╥﹏╥”
I KNOOOOOW, my thoughts exactly since the moment he didn't go home
Same praying he doesn't get preg....he's already a mess and how many days he's been there?
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If it makes you feel a little better, he doesn’t get pregnant. Also at the end of volume 2 it’s revealed there are more omegas and alphas appearing in different parts of the world.
That's a relief. Does our MC end up becoming an expert scientist/doctor on omegaverse? Feels like it's being foreshadowed what with his interests and all.
The manga is still ongoing, but by the end of volume 3 when Nishio is in heat again, Takai asks for his father’s help (the dad is a doctor)
Where did you read it? Also is it in English?
So basically it’s a love triangle between a guy who sexually assaulted the MC repeatedly and forced him to prostitute himself VS a guy who actually care about MC’s feelings to the point he actually stops in the middle of sex because he doesn’t want to continue if the MC doesn’t like it. And I’m supposed to hesitate between the two MLs ? It’s like I had to chose between eating piss and shit VS eating a lovely made strawberry cake lmao
IM CRYING AT THIS COMMENT
I’d be so damn mad if this shitty rapist red hair asshole ends up with the MC (￣∇￣")
PFTTTT u have a way with words
HONESTLY but we already know who might be endgame so im going to keep it open-minded and not have another yours to claim things again
Literally most bl male leads like oh you want me to root for the abuser???
I love your comment and your pfp
THE PERFECT METAPHOR
it might seem crazy what im bout to say…
ARE YOU SHITTING ME
no way?
Thanks haha
But I really don’t wanna eat piss and shit tho
I knooooooow riiiiight !! Tbf I actually enjoy a little bit of toxicity, I admit that it makes the story spicier and complex but at the same time, I’m completely against noncon/dubcon. So my problem is that I actually like psychological BLs, with complex characters, complex relationships etc. but most of them are just romanticized Stockholm syndromes… like bruh（￣へ￣）
Haha thanks babe
I KNOWWWW RIGHT
There’s no way I’m eating piss and shit I’m out
BRO DIPPED??
don't blame 'em, I'm dipping too
Why is it important only what the MC feels? He was rude and dropped the friendship first after finding out about the red haired guy. Then he was rude towards the black haired guy. He doesn’t deserve any of them. The question is why do they hesitate to just dump his a*s?
Honestly, I see what you’re saying about the mc but i think the MC is closeted gay that took time for him to realize. It’s one of those cases yk. Also, to be fair MC was being mean to the black hair guy cause he been sexual coercion by the red hair guy. At the end of the day, we know who the MC picking in a heartbeat (the red hair guy) after ch6 the shower scene.
I honestly don’t give a shit whether he’s rude or not cause it’s nothing compared to what the red haired asshole has done to him. He’s rude and unfair because he’s a coward, it cannot be compared with being a sexual predator. Also he’s rude towards the black haired guy cause he thinks he’s the same as the other asshole. He may be rude but at least, he’s not a rapist and even though he wasn’t fair towards red hair, he didn’t deserve to be sexually assaulted. And when it comes to his behaviors with black hair, it’s pretty much understandable that he’s wary of him when the guy literally took MC to his home when he was drunk as fuck, and confessed his feelings when he was naked with a boner, ready to fuck him on the spot, so of course MC’s gonna think he’s the same as red hair. And you can clearly see how red hair actually affected him badly, cause he was pretty much resilient with this whole situation. Even though he barely knew him, he naturally offered a handjob just so he could get away with the situation even though he hated it. And that’s because he understood that the guy simply wanted to fuck him, just like red hair, and that’s the only way he can get away with it, cause that’s what he has to do with red hair. And even though he was okay with all this at first, he was still crying because he was scared and it shows how he’s actually much more affected by sex in itself even though he may have thought he was completely desensitized after being used to be sexually abused repeatedly. So yeah, he’s a coward, but it doesn’t mean that he doesn’t deserve black hair. Also, black hair came on him quite hard tbf, so MC had every rights to panic and leave, especially since it was the first time someone gave him sexual pleasure and it was with someone he barely knew and it all happened very fast, so he just panicked and left (and it’s not new that he’s a coward, but its just a simple flaw). And as I said, black hair came on him very strongly, to the point that even he, realized it and stopped when MC cried. Aaaand also, black hair literally doesn’t give a shit about MC being potentially “rude” to him. He’s literally not affected by it, not even a tiny bit, so the whole “rude” behaviors (when it comes to MC and back hair) are mostly for comedy purposes.
What do you mean by MC picking red hair in a heartbeat after ch6 shower scene ? He literally punched him in the face ??????
cleared
Periodt
I’m just thinking about those who don’t like TJ… cause I saw the raw and there will literally have TWO other detailed chapters of Ian and TJ fucking in this car hahahaha and trust me, it’s gonna be hot as fuck ლ(´ڡ`ლ)
We love Dy for exclusively giving everything for TJ and Ian. I'm all ready to analyse the chapter lol.
Hell yeah lol their smut scenes are always hot af looking forward it.
All I can think about is the lack of hygiene… so much body fluids and no shower at all… for days… ew
Totally. For daaysss and just saeat drying ang setting on skin blergh
Yeah it probably smells like dead meat there
i wouldnt be surprised if it smelled like the psycho killer's basement
TJ is just so damn fucking hot… like… I can’t even feel bad for Jo. Their chemistry is way too good. Even if Jo is literally so awesome and perfect, he will never have the same chemistry the Mc has with TJ… And at this point, it really feels like Jo is too much in this story… And I’m not even saying that because I’m literally head over heels for TJ but if EVERYONE was honest, we would ALL AGREE that the Mc would NEVER deserve Jo. But on the contrary, he’s a perfect match for TJ cause they’re both equally fucked up (and their chemistry is amazing but I already talked about that). And the fact that the Mc fucked other guys and it never really bothered TJ when Jo really can’t stand it (even tho the Mc was already fucking around when they met…). I mean, c’mon guys, let’s all be honest here, Jo and the Mc aren’t really that compatible… I feel like if Jo and the Mc actually ended up together, Jo would always be insecure because of the Mc’s past relationship with TJ. But if TJ was actually the one the Mc ended up with, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be affected by his past relationship with Jo (just like he was never affected by all the people the Mc fucked with).
The T who never affected by all the people the mc fucked with actually for the first time got affected by the appearance of Jo cause he knew Jo wasn't a mere one night stand for the mc.
To me, it simply means that he’d feel like shit if the Mc ended with Jo cause he’s literally in love with him. And yes Jo is not just a one night stand, that’s why he’s part of the « love triangle ». But I don’t think Tj would still think about Jo if he ended with the Mc. But when it comes to Jo… I mean… look at chapter 39.
Tbh I really can’t get past the whole « it’s not rape because I spread my legs for you » (when he really didn’t have a choice to do so) bullshit.
He just said that so Matthew could stop blaming himself for everything that ever happened, it was rape, but at the same time Matthew was not in his right mind, which Jin understood bc of the specific drug and that's why he's not going off on him (not excusing Matthews actions ofc)
same. it made me feel iffy. and people defending his actions saying well the person who got raped said it wasn't rape so stop calling it that is also making me feel iffy.
Still, as a reader I just know that this will be the only conclusion of this conversation and the whole rape scene will never be addressed again. So yeah, even if I understand the intention of the fictional character, I can’t understand the intention of the actual author.
Bruh, those people obviously don’t have critical thinking skills so it’s better to not even try to engage a conversation with them
I agree, they're mentally challenged, I'm not in any way excusing his actions, just explaining how Jin was able to "forgive" him
Even I understand his pov. But it’s the fact that the rape was actually addressed by the author and yet it was simply brushed like that with this kind of conclusion. It’s kinda frustrating I gotta say
I think she made it like that bc of the characters personalities, like, the way Jin acts towards Matthew would be like that
I just know that so many of you wish for Dan to have a character development or think that the redemption won’t be satisfying or that JK is not redeemable because it’s been too long etc. But tbf it took pretty much as much time for Seungho to have his character development in POTN. And he had been sooooo damn shitty towards Nakyum, even worse than JK. And Nakyum had the exact same personality as Dan and he never had a character development. Not even once. And yet yall called POTN a “masterpiece” eventually. Yall were pretty much satisfied. So it’s just a matter of time before everyone here change their mind and call this whole bullshit a “masterpiece” also.
I love how you have to bring in another bl to the convo and put it down so you can try and make your point valid lmao. Even without comparisons people still have a right and point to shit on this poorly thought out story and characters.
After further thought and reading your comment one more time I realize that we are on the same side and I think I’m arguing for no reason. My apologies
I never thought POTN was a masterpiece! Nice art but nothing more! Kinda like this story!
I was SO CONFUSED I was literally writing « I don’t even understand what you’re tryna say’” but then your second comment appeared
So many people call POTN a masterpiece tho both of these stories are so bad. But yeah, the art is amazing, but that’s it. All the rest is total garbage.
Really? I read it but it was quite boring and the bottom was also a crybaby (like Dan ) but far from a masterpiece (except the art!)
Yeah, I wonder how the author going to turn this to a story you will actually like?!?!
i forgot that manhwa ended
See the chapter where JK is drunk and Dan is blushing and happy ? That’s what the author’s gonna do at the very end of the story (except JK won’t be drunk) and everyone will forget about the abuse and be satisfied. Out of 100 chapters, there will be like 90 chapters of abuse and 10 chapters of fluff (or even less). Everyone will be happy cause they will finally have their “happy ending” even tho 90% of the story is JK being the biggest asshole ever. At the end, Jk won’t have to do much for Dan to forgive him cause he’s is already in love with him, so there’s actually no need for him to say sorry since Dan is already excusing his toxic behaviors at the moment. All JK needs to do is being nicer, blush a little bit and say « I love you » and that’s it. Dan and all the readers will be satisfied, that’s the kind of character development he’ll have. He’ll just completely change his personality (from bad to nice) but he won’t really reflect on what he did. Or if he does, it’s gonna be brushed up (like in « roses and champagne »). Dan won’t ever have a character development, he’ll keep on being a small sensitive kid (who’s 30) but the only difference is that he’ll be happy and everyone will be happy for him or whatever.
That’s how the author will make « everyone » happy. But I won’t be lmao. To make ME satisfied, I’d need Dan to have a character development, to grow some balls, to snap back or to even go completely berserk or something. Also I need JK to be miserable for as many chapters he had been a fucking asshole towards Dan. And I don’t want him to be miserable because of a tragic backstory, I want Dan to make JK miserable. I want 50 chapters of Dan having a real fucking personality and Jk being miserable. I’d need their whole dynamics to be reversed. And maybe then I’d be satisfied. And the only reason for me to call this story a masterpiece would be if Dan actually top JK, at least once. That would be the biggest plotwist ever that had never be done in the whole history of yaoi lmao. This whole story is such a cliche that it feels like I’m reading a parody. So I need something big to break all the rules for me to eventually call this bullshit a « masterpiece ».