Just saw the raws for side stories named "If, 3" including TS, Minhyuk and SY. I guess it's ment to be AU for what if the 3 of them were together. And honestly I'm a bit disappointed. Through the story we were able to see that author likes to put rape and violence wherever she can and every single sex scene even if it's let's say vanilla, looks more like torture than pleasure. (It was kinda toleratable because story itself was dark with topics of mafia life, violence, etc) Now these side stories are AU for seems like bdsm relationship between 3 of them, and every single chapter looks like some rape + bdsm filled porn. (Nothing wrong with kinks, bdsm and similar stuff, but reading chapters where mc looks like he'll be killed by those dicks isn't most pleasurable thing tbh)
I expected sidestories to be a sneak peak into SY's and TS's relationship because TS has to fix so many things and maybe sneak peak to where Minhyuk went. Honestly hoping we'll get something like that after this pornographic glorification of rape (SY's faces are so hard to look at, bro looks like he's in more pain than pleasure being stuffed by pp from both sides)
Sorry for such weird explanation, English is my 2nd language so some things can sound off.
where did you read the raws?
On Toonkor, just copy the Korean name, for some reason I can't post the link even tho it's usually no problem
the author just posted that there will be more side stories related to the actual story and not au hopefully they will be more about their relationship
Thank you for letting us know!
Thank god idk if this is just me but I hate the 3some stuff it’s just icky to me
Just wanted to add something. Yes so the author said there will be 3 side stories. She also said this on her twitter. This is the first one, which is set in an AU if the 3 of the ended up together (which I hate so I’m skipping them). And she said the last of the 3 side stories will be about Soo-Young and Taesung, which is the actual epilogue/side stories to the main story. So…we have to wait for a bit ┑(￣Д ￣)┍
My hard guess for the second side stories, is that it will also set in an AU where Minhyuk and Sooyoung ended up together or if Sooyoung didn’t ended up with any of the 2 of them. But anyway if it’s also not connected to the main story, I’m also gonna skip them （￣へ￣）
Can we get a little bit of plot too, please
Because these sex scenes are becoming really gross and annoying
LMAO real, author, can we at least get some crumbs of a plot?
Not related to the romance between characters. But covers of seasons seems to match the character the season kinda focus on. For the first we had Ian, an in the first season we saw a lot of his backstory, explanations about him etc...
Now we have TJ and there's already focus on him, we are getting his backstory in newest chapter, there's bigger focus on the things he's planning to do regarding the mafia etc.
It may be totally unrelated, but it's interesting to think about that.
And regarding the romance.
I understand people and why they are mad. I hate love triangles and dragging things around. But on the other hand Ian isn't obligated to stay with Jo just because Jo said he likes him. Life is more complicated than that (I agree that Ian shouldn't be giving him false hope tho).
And Isn's x TJ's relationship is complicated from the beginning. Their entire lifes they knew only for eachother, they were only constants in eachother's lifes. It's not that much about love how much it is about dependance and fear of losing that one comfort feeling of constance. (I know TJ broke Ian's legs and their relationship is toxic, but just take in count what kind of life they are living and where from they are coming).
As for TJ I even see him as tragic character. I kinda pity him (as a oerson, not as a Isn's lover/fuck buddy)
I'm very interested in where the story will go.
Summed it up perfectly
I like the way you summarized it. In other page I talked about how you can't simply ignore the codependency between them (I also said you can't ignore the love behind that because they're not two unhappy people stuck in an unhappy marriage, they crave each other, they worry for each other, and they're scared about what out-loud feelings could do to them).
But returning to the codependency, you said TJ broke Ian's leg and it wasn't like that. We still don't know why TJ wanted his men stop him that night, and while Ian tried to escape, he had that accident that ruined his career. But that hospital scene shows perfectly that mutual codependency, because TJ felt like shit because he knew what that accident meant for Ian. And he tried to tell Ian the truth, but Ian didn't let him. Ian didn't want to face himself letting that slide as if nothing just because it's TJ, despite it had ruined his future plans.
That arc we don't know much about is the perfect example of their dynamics and all the good and wrong they bring to each other. There are toxic element in there? It might, on both sides, and mostly because they both prefer to keep ignoring the elephant in the room and not to talk about things. It's easier just keeping the things as they are because that keep them together without questions.
Just to be clear, I stand that they love each other and I hope they can talk it out before it's too late
You said all of this perfectly! And sorry for my mistake about Ian's injury, I red it long ago and got it messed up in my head.
About them talking out loud their minds and emotions, I'm kinda afraid of what is going to happen to TJ, the story has some kind of bittersweet vail around which is giving me bad feeling. What if one day Ian rush to the hospital to TJ, but it's to late.
Also, about their relationship, there definitely is love included, but at some point it seems they just can't let go (maybe because of that love, I have to read entire thing again in one go, so I can get clear picture)
One interesting thing I really like is the way their intimate scenes are portrayed. In similar set-ups we usually have abusive possessive top, but their sex is passionate, dirtyminded, rough but at the same time it's very visible how TJ cherish Ian in those moments. Overall no matter where they go, they can't stay away from eachother. It's a bit sad that Jo is hanging out there xD, but the way things are going now is way more realistic than Ian just jumping at youngster who said 'I like you'. (I'm not doubting Jo's love or intentions but it's not enough to win someone's heart in a day)
I want Jo to stop crushing on Ian....like please. I was so happy when he asked to be friends ...
Jo is my fav character and he's too wholesome and pure for ian.(no hate to Ian) he deserves someone better. I want them to stay friends tho cause maybe he can fix Ian a bit but Ian obviously has a thing for tj
Big ding dogs are main representative of BL manhwa, but damn that thing is literal lethal weapon
Don't worry, Shawn beat up that ugly shit of a man good enough to take needed time and help Nathan. He'll spend a lot of time in hospital but will survive.
Thanks babe my heart was about to run out my chest
You're welcome ( ˘ ³˘)
God bless the person who shared the raws long ago somewhere in the comments, otherwise I would be crying until next chapter comes out
First sidestory is out, hope we'll get to see it soon
There are already 3 in Korean raws
My heart breaks how he was killed and if I remember correctly Fucheng was informed about his death right before he wanted to confess his feelings after coming back from mission...(maybe I'm a bit wrong because first chapters came out long ago and I didn't reread)
As for the romance between MC and ML, considering that ML loved now dead guy for very long, since they were young teens, it's nice it goes slow, man he loved got killed, greaving and falling in love again takes time. Plus it's manhua, censorship is very heavy as in every case of Chinese stories. But I'm very invested in the story regardless of romance, it's very well written and art is gorgeous (can't remember the name of dead guy )
Sejun's (MC's) dad was so gorgeous and nice person above all f** the stupid illness
I cannot believe how 2 grown up men can be this stupid....like, bro, you are in your 40s, man's pp works pretty normal even it that age, because 40 isn't old ༎‿༎ Idk what's going with Korean authors portraying 35-40 years old men like they are grandpas.
Ed can appear as consequence of illness but in his case definitely due to his overthinking aka his pp can't get up because of psychological pressure.
They are painfully clueless, it's embarrassing to even read those conversations xD
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You're absolutely correct. There's a saying that 60 is the start of life for men. I mean even 80+ grands can make babies. What's with them to portray 40 year-old man like that? Even women in 40s act like they're teenagers.
Exactly what I'm talking about! It's really poking my eyes whenever I see it in stories, guy us like 35+ and he needs vitamins for his joints and he has to wear glasses for reading because his sight is weaker due to his age (it's always pointed that those things are because of old age). How? Why? By which logic :'(
I'm 26 and I've been wearing glasses for years, my parents are almost 60, they both has eyes as hawks.
There's no rule for such thing, but for some reason they always portrait men it their late 30s and 40s like they are at the end of life (erectile dysfunction, eyes oroblems, guts problems, lowered stamina, let me nit count anymore) Meanwhile, 30s and 40s are great ages for both genders.
I'm reading this and having the feeling like the guy is in his 60s....also age gap can cause insecurities, but they are both gron ups now and it's not enormous age gap
Indeed. They're making like they're 20 years different. Duhhh.