The Cheshire Cat has never looked so good! That was cuteness overload
Well. Mok said ALOT of things when he was drunk and mashed up. I'm calling that 'Ballgate', never to be spoken of again. but now he's sober and I can't tell if he's genuine or whether he only thinks he is.
And what is Nanjo thinking about all of this in the cold light of day? I feel we need his pov and it's missing. Can he really forgive so easily?
He was definitely developing feelings prior to all the drama but lets face it, Mok is a shed ton to handle. Has Nanjo really got what it takes to be this unstable ships anchor?
BALLGATE
Maaaaan, this is like dangling doughnuts on a string in front of my sugar starved face!! Once I finally get a bite it's gonna be diabetes heaven
Dubious start but got better. I quite enjoyed this quick, easy to read without much thought.
I really liked this. It is bitter sweet, with the secrecy, but at the same time so beautiful, how they kept with each other for all those years. I remember not being able to share my own queer relationship when I was younger. I knew not everyone would accept this. And being in a small town made it harder. Once we moved to a city, things changed for which I'll be forever happy about. I absolutely loved their dynamic and need more old man yaoi in my life for sure
I absolutely love this one. More so than Passion. Both characters have far more complexities and nuances making them really interesting.
Illay and Taeui were good, but at times so predictable it kinda wrote itself.
The way Yuri sees the world and those around him constantly throws me.
You don't need to dog on another to being one up Ilay and Tay have WAY more nuances than this couple I would say this story is more like the average bl.
NO! wdym xinyuri's stories are average, huh? Then give me some recommend manhwa that similiar with their?!! Now!!!
It's not doging it's called having an opinion. If they like this one more that the main story it's fine its their opinion. If they feel this one is more detailed or well written that's also fine its just their opinion ♡
Exactly
Saying one story is lesser than one in this certain way does classify as dogging which was unecessary to me
It deadass follows similar plot points to like every average bl bruh. Older mc bottom has an interaction with younger top and cares for him. Young top grows older to be low-key evil old mc still likes and cares for him young top slowly opens up and then they eventually fuck and then whatever trashy plot points like jealousy slowly gets them together happily ever after the end.
Also I'm allowed to share my opinion about their trashy one
We can't all like the same things or feel the same way. Interpretation by the reader is what makes a story , in part interesting. I haven't slated or dogged on Passion. I haven't said it was terrible or a bad story. I have quite enjoyed it in fact, but in this story, I find Yuri's character more interesting. Mainly because the way he has been written is divisive. You are welcome not to agree with that. If you feel this story is average, that is your rightful opinion. If you like this story more, that is also your rightful opinion.
Given they sit in the same universe it is actually ok to talk about them both, without becoming upset over it!
We all know the majority of bl follows a well trodden formula, as that's what is popular.
So calm yaselves. Respectfully.
You’re reducing their entire relationship to a generic BL checklist. If you strip away all the actual context and just list vague things like “older bottom,” “younger top,” “jealousy,” and “they eventually get together,” then obviously you can make almost any BL sound the same. But none of those points actually describe what makes Xinlu and Yuri’s relationship unique. Their actual plot and character dynamics are nothing like what you described. If you describe every story like that, they’re all going to sound the same, but what actually makes them different is XinYuri’s unusual dynamic. And more importantly, Yuri’s character alone makes this story fundamentally different from the generic plot you just reduced it to. Then give me some titles that are actually similar to them. I’ve been looking everywhere and still haven’t found anything that really feels like XinYuri. I'm genuinely craving xinyuri right now.
Average..missy recommend us a story that is like this..we would love to read it all
Is PASSION not a generic, average bl???
Even more so than RAGA, PASSION has thay shitty, toxic and violent top that abuses the bottom until he nearly breaks (if u want me to find bls like this lmk). That is then followed by the very classic trope of top realizing he actually really loves the bottom.
You could've definitely phrased it better
You never denied that I was correct the story does follow many similar plot points to stories like amber alert and others I've seen I usually skip stories with plot points like this so I can't list much but it definitely follows these stories but raga is better written than these stories and is unique in the ways that it writes it all I'm saying is it gives generic because it because you rarely see stories that have similar plot points to Passion say but also because of how old it is
And it's also not a bad the ng it just feels generic to me
I'm not saying the stories I've seen are like this all Passion books are leagues above others to me all I'm saying is that the major plot points I listed are similar to others not exactly all the good writing details that make this story leagues better than most.
So we're just forgetting than Yuri was raped in this same story and xinlu would've raped tay of he had the chance bitch please we're not here to play the morality game. Passion is supposed to be a darker story that tackles many plot points and character dynamics and development if all you could see in PASSION is the toxic and violent traits and not the great writing that makes many people love the story then I don't want to argue with your bitch ass. What happened to sharing opinions. No need to play the morality game one of the main characters in this story you love so much is a murderer and rapist so let's calm down on that shall we
Mate. I was typing on a phone in my lunchbreak. I wasn't aware a simple "I like this..." would provoke such strong emotions! !! This is why I stay away from many fandoms. Toxic af.
I don't think I was very aggressive other than describing Ilay, but I apologize for the offense, and thanks for the reminder, I will keep my manners in check. And, like you, I was also trying to share my opinion of what I thought from reading your response.
I have never tried defending Xinlu (in my older posts on this manhwa I even diss him), he's a POS and deserves to be in prison (hate him for treating Yuri like shit and we both seem to agree on that and I could definitely rant on him SO much more)
In my opinion, Yuri's entire character is nuanced and is a very unique character in BL. He's not very expressive, has little desires and he's not cold hearted/non chalant. There's more to his character than there is to most bl bottoms (usually able to be summed up in a single phrase) we see that makes him a breath of fresh air.
PASSION might tackle a darker side of love (despite both tops greatly hurting the bottoms, it is sage to say that Ilay has hurt tae more than Xinlu has hurt Yuri), but RAGA focuses more on the gentler side of love (Yuri's love for Xinlu is love in one of the most tender, soft, and resilient in ways I could think of love as) and those differences make them unable to be compared to.
This gentle love is much more difficult to find in BL than the widely portrayed dark love, and that is why I said PASSION is, to me, more generic than RAGA.
(Im so,so sorry for this long ass essay read it if you want, don't if you want I just like to yap if anything, read paragraph 3 or 4)
Fr fr like if u express ur opinion they get offended but they wana say their opinion
That's not all you said brody you deadass said
I like these characters more than the ones In Passion because of blah blah all I did is try to defile your trashy criticisms
You glaze this bitch like no tomorrow because you can't find a proper argument for your own trashy opinions open a book girl
Most bl stories don't even tackle a so called dark love love like Passion again you think passion is generic because it doesn't have a more soft telling of love but that makes no sense because passion is the few stories that does a more dark bl much differently than others that come after it.
But ai low-key agree with you when n some qays
Seriously! You need to step off your soap box before you hurt yourself. If you need to resort to name calling and sucking the joy out of others reading experience, that may differ from yours, then I genuinely feel sorry for you.
Have a great day.
Why . U want me to gaze u .
Well u didn't earn it ur way of talking is trashy and its repulsive. We can disagree and discuss something in a respectful manner but with the way ur talking why would I engage in a discussion with u . That's useless and ridiculous. U have so much ego for nothing. And all u found was open a book and read . Couldn't come with something better . Too bad
Glaze not gaze
Codename Anastasia, roses and champagne, killing stalking, the list goes on (if you want recommendations you can dm me or smth). Dark, toxic romance is prevalent in KR bl (especially novels, and I typically avoid kr novels because of this).
Now you might ask, then what about this soft love? Why is it so rare? Because most authors portray love as a burning passion/fire, they exaggerate the very being of love (puppy types, overly expressive types, crybaby types).
In Yuri specifically (can you tell I read this manhwa for him LOL), I get to see something rare, level headed love. (Specifically: Level headed love despite Yuri's intensely strong affection for Xinlu where he knows exactly where to draw the line)
Despite RAGA being pushed forward almost entirely by emotions (at least in the recent chapters), Yuri does not get boring or insufferable. Instead, we slowly learn more about him because there's just that much to him. His character makes it hard to simplify him down to a cardboard cutout (although it is difficult to get a love story to progress with characters like Yuri, which is why I like this manhwa so much, it has a perfect balance).
PASSION relies on a huge amount of unavoidable plots to bring the love interests closer together (which is where the action comes in, and I live for action so I love PASSION too), and that works out decently.
This is why I say they are hard to compare. PASSION is exceptionally action/plot driven, and while RAGA still has those elements, it focuses on the pure-love (Xinlu ruined the "pureness" screw him) and the healing journey of a broken person (Xinlu) and a person who could not be more mentally sound (Yuri).
Now, if it was just that, any cute slice of life bl could fill the gaps, right? But what makes RAGA stand out is how real and relatable it can be (take Yuri talking to the old grandma, Yuri's friendship with Xinlu's relatives, etc.). It connects people together in ways that PASSION cannot.
RAGA is like a split thread, it can be many, many things to many different people. (More explanation: it doesnt have one specific thing it is trying to convey)
PASSION is like a perfect thread, it will channel the readers into a straight line where thats that.
(Think of RAGA as an open/blank book while PASSION is a closed/finished book)
I had so much fun analyzing this you don't even know XD (I havent done this in so long)
Again, I'm so sorry for the insane yap. TLDR (last two paragraphs have the essential message), and I'm glad to know we share some similar opinions :))
Sure bro whatever you say
So your just gonna act like you're all sun shine sand rainbows 24 7 again your opinions are ass and you never back up anything you say with evidence so I'll just treat as it was a garbage
Am I the only one that actually liked this darkly twisted fever dream? Don't come at me but it is a supernatural story that plays on fears and desires. Trying to get Wuyeon to accept his fate by showing him his loss, and that the only person to care about it would be himself, I thought was pretty good.
Of course there was going to be a rescue. Otherwise, it'd be pretty short but saying that if it had ended on this , I wouldn't have been upset.
I am however enjoying this a lot.