Just saw multiple comments that made me realize not everyone sees Jian Yi as the top, and I might be alone in that opinion(⊙…⊙ )
Dw im with you..
I always preferred jian yi as the top but I always kinda considered them as switches just because that's how they're dynamic seemed to me
Switch should be the only right answer but we ll never know
Though i heard they switch. i prefer top Jianyi.
Oh same, switches with Jian Yi topping slightly more is how I’ve always viewed their relationship and that’s why I was so shocked by the amount of bottom Jian Yi comments and likes cause I just had no idea that was the popular opinion. We’re outnumbered… ╥﹏╥
awww yay!! we gotta stick together cause we’re so outnumbered lol
NOOOO HIS PIERCINGS AND BUTTERFLY TATTOO(╯°Д °)╯╧╧ I LOVED THEM SO MUCH, PLEASE TELL ME HE’S GOING TO GET THEM BACK I DONT THINK I CAN KEEP READING IM SO UPSET
Does anyone else feel like Yeomin is weirdly infantilized? And I don’t mean his behavior because of his childhood trauma; I mean like how Yeon will make comments about feeling like he’s taking care of a kid, pick him up like he’s holding a child, and their insane size difference/character designs (like when they slept together for the first time Yeon literally made some comment about how prepubescent Yeomin’s body looked and how he couldn’t believe this was the body of a grown man). I really like parts of the story, but I can’t help but feel uncomfortable with certain scenes.
I’ve skipped all the smut so I didn’t know that ew
I think maybe you're reading into it too much? But yes, it's always been a problem how yaoi depicts body types in non-bara stories. However, I think he talks about the uke as a kid because the seme actually does want to take care of the uke, but the uke rejects it.
It's a common dynamic when one partner has way more money than the other. The seme is making excuses to create reasons in his head to justify wanting to help the uke, like a sugar daddy. The uke is uncomfortable with this because no one has ever actually taken care of him that way before. They are basically a sugar daddy and sugar baby.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that. There's something child-like about the behavior and it's disturbing, to say the least
yeomin is cute but he's not childlike and he doesn't act like a kid either. he's tall compare to the npc it just that taeseo is VERY BIG. and taeseo just treat him like a kid as in a very young person compare to him not a literal kid. and the way he "pick up" yeomin, I don't see anything wrong with it. babying your partner is normal in relationships isn't it? you never seen couple pick up their partner like that? (￣∇￣")
Yes , Compared to ML he is indeed really young. He hasn't even finished his bachelors man . How is that person even handling all those jobs , I can't even cook properly
I'm sorry but me and my man have that kind of height difference and huge age gap also (both of us are an adult)..so I don't see anything's wrong with their physics
I didn’t say anything about their age gap tho? And their physiques only make me uncomfortable bc it’s paired with the ml making weird comments like him thinking the mc’s body looks like a child’s while they’re having sex. I just get suspicious when someone writes an adult character with childlike features…
I get you..I only stated the age gap just to make a point..
I don’t think Yeomin’s behavior is childlike at all; I said that in my original comment. I wouldn’t be uncomfortable with Taeseo “babying” him if he hadn’t made comments like comparing Yeomin’s body to a child’s while they were having sex. It’s because Taeseo thinks things like that and then carries him in one arm (which I don’t see couples do very often because normally an adult would be too heavy to carry effortlessly like that) that I find the way he treats him strange, and it makes me suspicious of the author.
Ikr!? I just started reading this and couldn’t help but feel disturbed by the behavior, but I thought I was overthinking it since I didn’t see anyone else mentioning it. I’m glad some people can enjoy the story, but I think the weird undertones are gonna be too hard for me to ignore.
idk you keep saying that Yeon keep comparing his body to a child is not right at all. you keep making him to be a pedo which he doesn't. so i read again just to confirm. all he says is how no his dick is small and hair less. taeseo is a very egocentric man especially in the beginning. all his standard of a "grown man" is basically him. big dick big body. just how he treat yeomin like a kid cause grown man ideally is "like him". it's fiction, with his body he definitely can lift yeomin with ease
What adult man (who you even said is tall compared to most NPCs in the story) has a small hairless dick? That doesn’t sound like a child’s physique to you? I’m not saying Yeon is a pedo; I’m saying I’m suspicious the author might fetishize underage boys and write Yeomin being treated like a child/having childlike physical traits but get away with it by making him an adult. I’m happy that you and others can enjoy the story. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t, but when a character gets described by their partner as having “non-grown man” physical traits and describes their relationship as feeling like he’s taking care of a kid, that makes me uncomfortable, simple as that. And by the number of likes my original comment got, a lot of people are also uncomfortable by Yeon’s behavior, so clearly I’m not making anything up.
oh there are grown man with small hairless dick yk. and again, teoseo is the standard here. context matter. he is an egocentric jerk in the beginning. he has big body and a big dick. ofc yeomin's dick is small in his eyes. and the way you coming for this manhwa reading too much and nitpicking instead of other manhwa that has a literal child like mcs in out there... (￣∇￣")
oh btw yeomin's dick is not small if we're using our pov here. it's just normal size. have u not see the uncensored one? ugh why r we have to discuss someone dick anyway.
I don’t get why people are so offended by the switching comments? Both characters clearly enjoy topping, so of course people would actually like to see both of them top each other instead of one being forced into the bottom position like 90% of BL. I don’t even care about switch couples that much, but I do think it would’ve made sense for them to switch since they’ve both expressed a desire for being the top and it does make me a little uncomfortable since it’s such a common thing in BL for a ‘bottom’ to want to top but never get to bc their partner refuses and ignores their wants. But anyway, people are allowed to want for a story to go in a certain direction even if it’ll never happen; it’d just be nice if people could respect other people’s opinion cause this comment section is just so hostile.
Yes, u are right but u forget one of the main reason why they do that: the top is a BEAUTIFUL man. Only if the top is pretty or both of them have a same physical, there will be switching comments. I'm offended cause I don't like how they box beautiful men into the receiving. Plus, the way authors portray dominance and submission is one of the reasons too.
It sure is getting annoying since these people always want switches since day 1 while the official tags already say it clearly, fortunately someone shared the tags for free, I hope you can stop ranting about them switch:
https://www.mangago.me/home/mangatopic/19450223/
Do you realize how ridiculous it is that you're offended because people like the switch? But do you know what the switch is? A switch is when both characters are both top and bottom, breaking the fixed-role that exists in almost all stories. I haven't read anyone say they want Enzo to be bottom because he's the handsome one and they don't want him to be top; in fact, they want to see them in both roles. And no one wants to change the story. Guys, we're just fantasizing about a fictional story. No one is offending anyone, and no one is attacking the story. Instead, ask yourselves why other people's different tastes bother you so much.
Bro don't even understand what I mean lol. You are putting words in my mouth.
Again, people are allowed to share their thoughts on how they’d like a story to go even if the author clearly intends otherwise. This is not some new phenomenon; it happens in every fandom space. It’d be like someone saying “I wish this story would have a happy ending,” even if they know it won’t, and someone getting offended by that and telling them they’re annoying for going against what the official tags say. That’s ridiculous. I hope you can learn to accept other people’s opinions when they are doing no harm to anyone.
That’s a generalization. If the majority of the comments were people upset that Enzo wasn’t solely a bottom, I would agree with you, but they’re not. They simply want for them to both top and share that role; how is that boxing beautiful men into the receiving position? If I said that people only wanted Uno to bottom because they have a fetish for masculine men who’ve only ever been the top before getting dominated, that may be true for some people but not everyone. I’m not saying people can’t prefer Enzo to just be the top, but the reaction and outrage towards some people wanting them to switch when they’ve both expressed wanting to top is ridiculous.
I'm convinced now
But as I said, why people only do that when the top is prettier? I swear there are many bottoms from other stories express wanting to top too but people don't really care
Let them go dude. Even if Enzo stabbed Uno a thousand times, they wouldn’t change their mind lol
the way i got so excited when i realized someone uploaded chapter 27+28 thank you, thank you, thank youu(づ￣ ³￣)づ waiting for the officials to catch up was so painful and these translation are so good!!! i don’t think i can thank you enough<333
also ik it’s an upopular opinion but i prefer lightsabers over uncensored schlongs any day so thanks for this censored smut lol
I literally can’t go one chapter or post anymore that’s about Mo x He Tian without someone complaining they want more Jian Yi x Xixi. Why can’t people accept that Little Mo and He Tian are also a main couple? There is no side couple. I’m so tired of seeing people complain that they’re getting too much screen time/development compared to Jian Yi and Xixi. I don’t even know what people want from Jian Yi and Xixi; their story is so much more complete in my opinion. Does everyone forget the story started with Jian Yi returning to Xixi years after his disappearance? They’ve confessed to each other multiple times, and we know basically everything about their relationship since their childhood, but I’ve never once felt I wanted fewer chapters about them or more about Mo x He Tian. They’re still getting many chapters that focus solely on them, so please can we just appreciate both couples equally, and even if you like one more than the other don’t whine that the couple you dislike should get less screen time.
But we have nothing of the other couple and it's all about mo and hetain
Sorry, I just don’t agree
The first 150-200 chapters were mostly about them, with Mo and He Tian barely appearing. That doesn’t make them the main couple; it’s a story about all four of them but Jian Yi and Xixi had been friends years before Mo and Tian even met, so we got their development mostly in the beginning and now it’s Little Mo and He Tian’s time. Like you’re still getting chapters about them what if the author had decided to not give any chapters to them when they decided to focus on Mo x He Tian. And it could still shift back this story doesn’t seem like it’s ending anytime soon. All I’m asking is for people to please stop spamming how much you want the “main couple” on chapters about Mo/He Tian, like some people actually want to read comments about their chapter, not people complaining for more Jian Yi or Xixi.
What have you been reading? It’s obviously not 19 Days
No bro we won't stop complaining cause we start reading it cause of the MAIN couple and they deserve their own story
I think you read something else
I didn’t realize side couples got to be on the cover with the main couple normally. Also, what if the author just wanted to switch the main couple or make them all center characters/couples? Is that wrong? That they do what they want with their story? If you don’t like it, don’t read it. You’re literally reading this on an illegal site; you didn’t spend shit to read this, so I don’t understand you’re acting so entitled to how the story should be written.
Bro dont talk to me about reading in an illegal when you and all reading here you hypocrite clown and second I am a reader and like most of us started reading it cause of the first couple and became popular thanks to them so yeah I can ask for more chapters about them and I can complain and do whatever I want if he likes the other couple he can make a diff one about them !
I totally agree!!!!! I come to the comments to gush about the current chapter (He Tian and Mo) but I see a lot of comments about the "original couple" literally wishing a chapter about them while they got a chapter about them in the previous one! might as well say we want He tian and mo when we get a chapter about the "original couple" let's give every chapter what it deserves from the fun and discussions...
Can someone explain to me why so many people think Sol doesn’t love Ian? Immortal x Mortal is a pretty common trope I feel like, and it’s just kind of understood that when the mortal is reborn their soul is the same and the immortal loves them all the same. So I just don’t get this ‘Sol only loves Brian’ mentality. If it really bothers people to the point where they don’t want them to end up together why did you start reading a BL with this trope in the first place? Someone please explain because I feel crazy for not getting it ╥﹏╥
well here's the thing, Sol has never been accepting of Ian, all along he was hoping he'd regain his memories and become Brian, for you to understand Brian and Ian are completely different people with the only thing tying them together being the same soul, Ian will probably never become Brian even if he regains his past life experiences so while Sol might already know this he's too blinded by his love for Brian to actually acknowledge this fact and try to get to know Ian more, maybe even potentially love him for him and not for his past life
hope i helped a bit (づ￣ ³￣)づ i really hope there's gonna be some third secret male lead cause right now nobody loves Ian for him, only for Brian
for you to understand why people are so upset, i recommend reading other manhwas with the same trope! I really love Dreaming of the Dokkaebi, its same concept is made so much better
exactly! that's why i also understood ian's anxiety about sol's feelings for him because he knows that brian and him are two different people despite sharing the same soul (they led different lives). and also the idea that "i already who you are, you're brian, you just need your memories back" so sol never really took time to get to know ian (if my memory serves me correctly). no one loves ian for who he is as they only love the ghost of the past.
and i agree with dreaming of dokkaebi! that one is also good~
But clearly, Brian and Ian are the same person. Sure, Brian is much more world weary and insecure, but his unparalleled altruism and stubbornness is all the same.
Besides, the entire reason why Sol kept Ian's past life a secret is because he was worried about tarnishing his current relationship with Priest Brixton.
This means that Sol clearly acknowledges Ian as a being who has experienced a separate life outside of him. If he only cared to have Brian back, then Ian would have absorbed his memories since his first day in Archaia.
And on another note, I have not felt a drop of insincerity or longing for another when reading season 1 Sol. He was written with warm intentions and I don't ever recall seeing him reprimand or grimace at Ian's un-Brian like idiosyncrasies.
yes, i remember there's also the mirrors of brian's actions in the flashback and ian's actions in the present, which is the moment that i realized that they indeed share one soul. i also agree with sol being written as an understanding character, i just felt that he's waiting for someone, which is not yet ian if that makes sense? like sol clearly already met the person he's waiting for but ian is not yet completely that person? maybe my perspective focused on brian's thought process.
thank you for your reply though, i like talking about reincarnation stuff and the what ifs of reincarnated partners and immortals.
since you mentioned it, i wondered what are the grounds/qualifications for ian to "acquire" his memories back. because didn't sol wanted ian to remember it himself rather than explaining the situation with the priest because he doesn't want any misunderstanding (because he knows that the priest and ian were close in this life). is it the sword, but ian already went near the casket.
We all have different perspective, you said that you never felt a drop of insincerity or longing from the first season, but most people here would beg to differ.
it's that our human minds don't comprehend or see ppl the same way the dragons in this story do.
mama dragon even stated when she created her humans she made them capable of reincarnating because she wanted to be able to be with her friends forever since humans have limited life spans she made it so their souls would remember her and their bond.
dragons do not see the humans for their physical bodies of flesh but for their souls - the soul is how they define a person and the soul is how they find them again. when Sol met and fell for Brian and then found him again as Ian - he from the very beginning only identified him by his soul.
we ppl of mortal life spans and flesh cannot and do not acknowledge ppl by their souls (only by their physical form and personality) so we cannot see Sol's feelings for both Brian and Ian as feelings for the same individual soul because we can't and don't comprehend via the soul as the dragons do.
this is a really beautiful explanation!!! i’ve always felt that way (sol loves ian for his soul) but i’ve never thought about it from the perspective of a dragon. I really love that aaaahh
Appreciate your comment!! But honestly you just restated what I was confused about lol (￣∇￣") There’s most definitely not going to be a third love interest; Sol is endgame and that’s why I said I don’t understand people who don’t like him but keep reading. Also, I actually don’t think he’s been unaccepting of Ian and I think a comment below explained it really well. The idea of souls and reincarnation are concepts that are really hard for humans to comprehend. Many people believe Sol only sees Ian/Brian as just their memories but I believe the author intended a deeper connection. I do believe they could of written it a lot better seeing how so many people misconstrued the theme of reincarnation and how it works in this universe. But to explain how I see Sol’s feelings, it’s like if your parent, sibling, lover, friend—basically someone you care about wholeheartedly and purely—lost all their memories of you and their experiences in life, they’d definitely act differently since they have different experiences and obviously no connection to you, but you still have that connection to them. And in this universe Ian/Brian were reincarnated solely because of Sol’s love; since dragons live forever, their human lovers reincarnate in order to be with them. I’d honestly be pissed if Ian and Brian were meant to be separate people. I signed up for Immortal x Mortal (Reincarnated) but I understand it’d be way too easy and short of a story if Ian regained his memories as soon as he met Sol, there needs to be some angst for the plot.
I’m sorry for ranting so much, I do really appreciate your perspective!!! I’ve read Dreaming of the Dokkaebi, and it’s amazing, definitely better written when we’re talking about this concept specifically
You explained my thoughts about this story and its themes of reincarnation perfectly!! I understand how it might not be for everyone, but I find Sol and Ian’s dynamic really interesting. I understand Ian’s insecurities, but I don’t believe any of them to be true. I never once thought Sol didn’t accept Ian or his new life/experiences/memories, but so many people did. They believe he only cared about “Brian” and I think I finally understand it’s because it’s such a hard concept to grasp. You really did put it into words beautifully: immortal dragons not seeing humans for their physical “humanness” like body and memories but for their souls, which connect to something so much greater than we can comprehend. Ian can’t comprehend that either because he’s human which is the whole point/plot of the story!!
Please don’t stop uploadingThese translations are amazing!!! I love that censored and uncensored versions of spicy chapters are offered which officials never do. This is my favorite manhwa right now, I’ll be so devastated to see it change
Hopefully the manhwa goes in a different direction than the novel because by the end of the story karas is still just an unfeeling psychopath who doesn’t care about anyone else besides abel (who he still hurts unintentionally like their first time together karas basically sa’s him) and what upsets me most is how passive abel is towards his behavior. I was really looking forward to seeing him grow and learn to care for others
RIGHT?? like all for that for u to just abandon Ashler's teachings? And it kinda happened because of Nani too,,,
I was so excited when I saw the comments say this was poly; I’ve been waiting so impatiently for another poly story after reading Triangle Lovers, but now that I’ve actually read this, my disappointment is immeasurable…I can’t stand the warden!!!! He’s so sadistically high and mighty, acting like his “justice” doesn’t make him just as corrupt as the prisoners he’s punishing. I hate the way he treats Shen; I don’t want to even imagine him in a relationship with Jin-yi. Like you’re telling me he's going to be in a relationship with two people he has a massive power imbalance with and constantly abuses?!?!?! Just whyyyヽ(`Д´)ﾉ